[agambhandari]

Originally Posted by venkyhere

If someone can clearly make us laymen understand what exactly is the difference between MQB-A0 and MQB-A0-IN (why another platform, in the first place, the MQB itself was envisaged as something that can accommodate different engines, different boot styles, different wheelbases etc) , I will sleep happier.

Platform is the same, the IN suffix denotes the fact that they are using Indian steel for the chassis and rest of the body. Somehow till now they were importing steel from Germany to make the previous gen made in India cars (Polo, Vento, Rapid etc). No other structural differences from what i can see compared to the same cars that are made in Brazil or Germany.

(This is as per the info Available publically and the diagrams on the parts websites)

[audioholic]

Originally Posted by venkyhere

If I don my devil's advocate hat, that word "voluntarily offered" - is it the same as the GNCAP agency simply buying a random example from a showroom and testing it ? Could VAG have lined up a few custom-job models specifically to send to GNCAP ? The reason I have my doubts is because the same company got caught red handed w.r.t the emission cheating scandal, and sent a scapegoat executive to jail, whilst the real bosses escaped. So I am not in anyway expecting "ethical righteousness" from any auto company.
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It's easy to think different and presume that their voluntarily offered car was different. That doesn't cost as much as the diesel gate scandal or the lessons every car company learned out of it, with respect to technical compliance. I'm sure no global company will have the guts to repeat something like this. There is no way you can create a special body shell which can score high numbers in crash tests and do away with higher ratings while the production units will be different. And it's not just one or two additional structural members which can bump up a 0 star car into 5. In fact Tata did that exactly to score one extra star for the Nexon by adding reinforcement to the driver footwell. But for a global company like VW, the diesel gate has been enough.

It is not something like adding a roll cage in a rally car. Due to the same complexity itself such companies don't water down the structure itself for local adaptations compared to their global models. Hence, while they can cut some costs in plastic parts, interior trim etc, the fundamentals remain the same.

[amey027]

I had always noticed how thick the A-pillar on my Kushaq is. Additionally, the front hood, doors and boot door are so heavy. I do often drive friends' cars and instantly notice how light weight their doors are and the thickness (or lack of) of A-pillar.

Glad to see all that is translating into safety ratings as well. I am pleasantly surprised with child safety ratings. No other car offers 5 star ratings there, not even Mahindra and Tata. Also important to note, those were based on old GNCAP while VAG has done it on new regulations

[ron178]

Originally Posted by venkyhere

The reason I have my doubts is because the same company got caught red handed w.r.t the emission cheating scandal, and sent a scapegoat executive to jail, whilst the real bosses escaped.

It is a possibility but this might help.

[StigsIndianCuz]

Went for a PDI for our Candy White Style 1.5 DSG.
I was armed with the TBHP PDI checklist and Wildon's VIN Decoder, and MY OH MY, I could not stop smiling with glee as our Kushaq rolled in before us.
It passed the checklist with flying colors, except for a couple of things:
1) Using the VIN Decoder, i figured the car was manufactured in Jun 2022, but the sticker on the car wrote May 2022, is this a point of concern?
2) The front passenger door was squeaking a bit, which the the SA said was because the car was just washed? does that reason make sense? If yes, why only the FL door?
3) A metal rubbing noise when suddenly braking at crawling speeds. No such noise when slowing the car to stop when driving at normal speeds. Reason given was that the brakes are new and this would go away once they were settled in, but IMO it felt like this was suspension noise.
4)After the TD, was checking the engine bay and pavement for any leaks when noticed a little bit of water dripping down from about the middle of the vehicle. SA told that this was water from the AC unit.

Other than that there were no dings, dents, ripples, or scratches. The car drives like a beauty and there was no rattling from inside that car. The delivery is scheduled for day after tomorrow(18th October), and i simply cannot contain my excitement.

Attaching some pics....

[84.monsoon]

Originally Posted by venkyhere

word "voluntarily offered" - is it the same as the GNCAP agency simply buying a random example from a showroom and testing it ?

Voluntarily offered, as far as I know, means the car was not part of the Global NCAP testing calendar/schedule. In case it is in the schedule GNCAP would pick up the cost of buying the car randomly from a showroom and testing it. In this case, as the cars are offered voluntarily for testing, the cost of the cars to be wrecked is borne by Volkswagen & Skoda India. I believe GNCAP would still pick up a random car to test.

[EaurougeatSpa]

Originally Posted by 84.monsoon

Voluntarily offered, as far as I know, means the car was not part of the Global NCAP testing calendar/schedule. In case it is in the schedule GNCAP would pick up the cost of buying the car randomly from a showroom and testing it. In this case, as the cars are offered voluntarily for testing, the cost of the cars to be wrecked is borne by Volkswagen & Skoda India. I believe GNCAP would still pick up a random car to test.

For further clarity on the matter as to what constitutes a voluntary test -
(*) Tested in compliance with the requirements of Global NCAP’s voluntary test procedure.
Manufacturer reaches out to Global NCAP with a request to submit a model for voluntary testing.
Global NCAP selects the vehicle for testing. If the model is already in the market, the vehicle is sourced anonymously from a random dealership. If the model is pre launch but in production, Global NCAP makes an independent selection from production vehicles at the plant (not accepting any special series).
Vehicles are sealed and transported to an accredited crash test laboratory.
Global NCAP informs the manufacturer of relevant VIN numbers selected and invites representatives to observe testing.
Crash tests are performed and a detailed technical inspection completed.
Global NCAP shares the test report with the manufacturer.
A one to one meeting is held with the manufacturer to inform them of the results.
Results are published through Global NCAP’s communication channels.
After publication, Global NCAP invoices the manufacturer for all relevant testing costs.
Global NCAP retains the right to audit any of the voluntary models tested.
Source - https://www.globalncap.org/safercarsforindia

[StigsIndianCuz]

Question: Does the 8-inch infotainment in Style support Skoda Connect?

[RodRowdyBiker]

Originally Posted by djangokl

I don’t really look at 2000 rpm usually.

Can you explain a bit more? Do you not go above 2000 rpm or exclusively stay above 2000 rpm?

[pb65wala]

Hello fellow bhpians. This is my first post on the forum. Feeling happy and proud to be a part of the learned community. I seek your valuable inputs in finalising my new car.
Background: Presently I am driving i20 (2010, top model) with 85,000 kms on the odo. Planning to upgrade soon (3-4 months waiting won’t hurt though).

Requirements:
• Budget- 16 lakh
• The car would be the primary car and shall be retained for at least 10 years.
• Most of the driving is going to be in the city (30-40 km in Chandigarh with speed limit of 60) and occasional highway drives (500 km in a month) mostly with the family (wife and a toddler). So, although I am an enthusiastic driver, barring once in a two-month highway drive with friends, enthusiastic driving will probably take a back seat and shall be replaced with sedate & mature driving.
• Road presence is an important consideration.
• Safety is a non-negotiable.
• Automatic will be preferred since wife will also be driving (though only on weekend trips)
• Diesel is not the first choice in view of the ban in Delhi and future uncertainty that comes along with it.
• Cabin ambience should be appealing. However, lack of gizmos, bells and whistles is not a deal breaker.

Options under consideration (not necessarily in the order of priority):
• Kushaq 1.0 Ambition AT
• Grand Vitara Delta AT
• Hyryder S AT
• Xuv 700 MX Diesel MT
• Seltos HTK+ (facelift is also expected early next year)

Thanks!

[yesyeswe]

Originally Posted by pb65wala

Hello fellow bhpians.
• Kushaq 1.0 Ambition AT
• Grand Vitara Delta AT
• Hyryder S AT
• Xuv 700 MX Diesel MT
• Seltos HTK+ (facelift is also expected early next year)

Thanks!

You have mentioned safety and Automatic so you can remove Seltos, then we don't know about Hyryder and Grand vitara's safety rating too so remove them as well, and xuv 700 MT because it is MT and would be too big for city usage and for your wife.

Guess what's left?
You have your answer.

[djangokl]

Originally Posted by RodRowdyBiker

Can you explain a bit more? Do you not go above 2000 rpm or exclusively stay above 2000 rpm?

What I mean is I used to look at that RPM limit earlier, I used to. Nowadays I figured out the gearbox & the car. I drive in a combination with both. When I get an open road, I don't mind going above 2k RPM and bringing the turbo kick. Even with that kind of mixed driving, I am getting around 13-15kmpl.

[Cresterk]

Originally Posted by pb65wala

Options under consideration (not necessarily in the order of priority):
• Kushaq 1.0 Ambition AT
• Grand Vitara Delta AT
• Hyryder S AT
• Xuv 700 MX Diesel MT
• Seltos HTK+ (facelift is also expected early next year)

Thanks!

Adding on to what YesYesWe said, you are posting this in the Kushaq thread so it is pretty clear what your subconscious wants

[itwasntme]

Must say the Monte Carlo edition looks stunning in the metal. Unsure about the seat covers though.

[sunikkat]

Originally Posted by itwasntme

Must say the Monte Carlo edition looks stunning in the metal. Unsure about the seat covers though.

I like the Monte Carlo edition too, it looks great, mainly the white one. If I am picking Kushaq, definitely this would be my pick. Though I feel the interiors could have been more sobered down