[PG03]

Hi,

I am looking for a capable offroader that I can take to remote areas without worrying about them failing much.

I have tested the Thar & Gurkha in the past, but the Thar just didn't feel like something that will be comfortable in the long run especially if I want to undertake a long trip with luggage. The Gurkha while ticking most boxes, just felt anemic.

The Scorpio N, ticks all the boxes and having test driven the Petrol AT so far, I felt immediately at home.

In that sense, I have added a Z8 MT 4x4 and a Z4 MT 4x4 in my cart.

I am not a big fan of gizmos and gadgets, so I am willing to overlook the omission of those in the Z4 variant. My only gripe is the missing MLD & BLD.

I have seen a few previous gen Scorpio videos where MLDs were installed in the aftermarket. Will it be worth the hassle if I decide to take a similar route with the new Scorpio?

[Ragul]

Originally Posted by PG03

My only gripe is the missing MLD & BLD.

I have seen a few previous gen Scorpio videos where MLDs were installed in the aftermarket.

Absolutely! a MLD can be a time-saver and life saver when rescue isn't possible at remote places. Eaton is offering them in retail as well I believe.

[naru80]

Originally Posted by RijuC

Someone posted expected interior photographs (screen shots) from the presentation yesterday. It seems for Z4/ Z6 the brown touches on door panels and dashboard, front armrest will remain. The seat covers/ leatherette brown coloured seat material will be missing.

The base XUV700 interiors are really sad. The absence of the dual screen dashboard is so glaring, you feel like you're in a poverty spec car even after paying ~15 lakhs. If it's the same case in Scorpio, then I would rather go for a mid-spec City or Seltos.

Originally Posted by RijuC

One feature that will be missed is Power foldable ORVMs in Z4. Hope XUV700 owners find some solution to this very soon. From XUV700 thread, I understand the couplers are different.

I think even z6 doesn't gets power foldable OVRMs. They are only electrical adjusting. (Z2 doesn't even get that. And in a car this wide, you can't just lean over and manually adjust the passenger side OVRM.)

Originally Posted by RijuC

There won't be any ceiling mounted third row lights in Z4. Hence the boot space with 3rd row seat tumbled up will be another dark cave. Need to find some solution to this.

This is an easy fix. Plenty of motion sensor lights available in the market.

Originally Posted by RijuC

There won't be any Adrenox in Z4- blessing in disguise?

The instrument cluster LCD will be smaller and monochrome type- who cares when you have snow capped mountains around, and a tough road challenging you. (Personally, I have many more interesting HMI screens in front of me to fiddle with, balancing enormous mass and energy. Few colourful statistics and diagnostic information of cars do not excite me much.)

As long as the essential MID info is there, the cluster type is not a problem.

*****

For personal use, the Z4 Petrol Auto/Z6 diesel manual should be treated as the base variants. Z2 and Z4 manual don't even get ESP and traction control. My wife's Swift, which cost around half the price of the Scorpio base, has ESP and hill hold!

[dr_TJ]

This Sunday, I was at the right place at the right time. It was a carefully planned Mahindra Scorpio shoot, right from the Grand-daddy OG Scorpio to the Big Daddy ScorpioN.

My Thar and XUV700 being the supporting actors.

The ScorpioN here was the Petrol AT Z8L in Black.
Firstly, the appearance is good. Viewed from the front, the Scorpio-N does look great. Still, I don't like the DRL design. DRLs should have been at the top of the Headlights as a continuation of the chrome strip of the front grill. Or inside the Headlights somewhere.

DRL design looks bad to me

Side profile is ok-ish to me because looks a bit too tall and short(Lengthwise) to me. A slight addition in length would have made the side profile just about perfect.

Old Scorpio with the new Scorpio-N


Scorpio-N with my Thar
Yes, pictures were shot in ultrawide (Sorry for that) so not a proper representation of the side profile.

Rear is the talk of the town now. Yes, Volvo-esque Tail lights and a slanted rear glass. The tall taillights makes the Scorpio-N look dis-proportionally tall and narrow even though its a wide car.
A split and bigger taillights assembly and a more upright rear glass would have been great for its rear stance.



Coming to the interiors, I like the brown color scheme. Although too many newly launched cars now with brown interiors (Brezza, Grand Vitara/Hyryder).
Center console and dashboard design is modern and looks good.
Material quality is good when compared to old Scorpio. Well, I am not the right guy to give feedback on interior material quality because I drive a 2021 Thar, so ScorpioN's interior is great to me. Although XUV700's interior felt better and more airy cause of the massive panoramic sunroof and white theme. Not a fan of the paino black inserts on the touch points of the Scorpio-N though.

Interior space management is certainly a mystery when compared to the big exterior dimensions. Although from my Point of view, interior space is good. My father also accompanied me, he also found the interior space good. 3rd Row is something I didn't bother to explore because it is not a requirement for me.

As per the boot space goes, the Boot space with the 3rd row up is less. Space is very much comparable to my Thar's boot space. But we can obviously fold and tumble the 3rd row of the ScorpioN and the boot space is very much usable. I will not have any complains regarding the boot space of the ScorpioN, because 3rd row will be rarely used.

Now comes the mStallion engine, I didn't drive this Petrol AT and will wait for the Diesel AT test drive car to arrive (which will arrive soon). I am absolutely floored by the awesome NVH of mStallion, not only inside the car but even with the hood open. Although this was my first encounter with the mStallion 2.0l.
For my current usage of 14-15 kms a day and 70-100 kms on a weekend, the Petrol AT makes a good case but the resale will be a massive headache back in my place. Its already a Herculean task to get a proper price for my Thar Diesel AT.

Ride quality of the ScorpioN is pretty good for a BOF tall SUV. Won't even compare it to my Thar, But from my memory of 1st gen Fortuner, ScorpioN rides much better. Although, Ford Endeavor has the edge over the ScorpioN in terms of ride quality and body control, although I had a very short ride on the BS6 Endeavor.

I am planning to book a Scorpio-N Z4 Diesel AT, main reason not to go for the Petrol Z4 AT is because of the resale issue.
But all things depends upon one key criteria. If only I get good value for the 2nd Gen Thar Diesel AT.

Final verdict:

Niggles aside (Rare Camera was dangerously Laggy), ScorpioN for the price is a good package. Yes, many people say it is overpriced (Z8L variant is overpriced) but looking at the pricing of other cars now, Still feel its overpriced?
If yes, ScorpioN being a BOF SUV is definitely not a good choice. Maybe because I never had the budget for the top variants, I feel the pricing is ok-ish or maybe because even the Maruti Suzuki Brezza or XL6 has 16+ lakh onroad price here.


Disclaimer:
These are my personal opinion and are not intended to offend anyone.
Also, this Scorpio assemble was made possible by a fellow car guy and a Good friend of mine from Dibrugarh, Assam. Kudos to him and his Teams effort.
Fellow BHPian Prakritij was also a part of the team.
Was a pleasure to be a part of the shoot.

[itsmeparvathy9]

Originally Posted by dr_TJ

This Sunday, I was at the right place at the right time. It was a carefully planned Mahindra Scorpio shoot, right from the Grand-daddy OG Scorpio to the Big Daddy ScorpioN.

My Thar and XUV700 being the supporting actors.

The ScorpioN here was the Petrol AT Z8L in Black.

Wow! The Scorpio-N does look ravishing in black. I really like the design philosophy that Mahindra have gone with here and thank you so much for the review

[akannath]

Originally Posted by gauravdgr8

If I were you and wanted a 7 seater, I would surely look for a car which has a better safety rating. Carens we know has scored poorly and therefore should be your last choice.

After a lot of thinking and discussions and following feedback from multiple fellow BHPians, I finally cancelled my booking for the Kia Carens today. Was a hard decision because the vehicle ticked all the boxes for me (including the looks departments which many may not agree) but the safety factor eventually tipped the scales. My search continues and Scorpio Z6 Diesel is on the radar.

Anyone who has experienced the 3rd row space, do you think it will be Okayish for adults below 5'3" for short distances? I know this is very subjective as I have seen several feedbacks ranging from atrocious/absolutely useless to Ok for smaller frame adults. Hence the question.

Will be checking out the car in person when I am in India in the 1st week of Aug.

[Prakritij]

Now that almost all details of the ScorpioN are out and available for TD, here are a couple of pics I took last Sunday for your viewing pleasure:

[alokk0912]

Originally Posted by akannath

Anyone who has experienced the 3rd row space, do you think it will be Okayish for adults below 5'3" for short distances? I know this is very subjective as I have seen several feedbacks ranging from atrocious/absolutely useless to Ok for smaller frame adults. Hence the question.

Will be checking out the car in person when I am in India in the 1st week of Aug.

Good decision I would say. I am 5'9" and 3rd row was definitely not for me. My daughter is 5'3" and she was all right and I think it should be ok for short distances. However, as you mentioned, it is very subjective. Anyways, you can always cancel the booking after taking the test ride. Safety shall not be compromised considering highway speeds have increased over a period of time because of better cars and better condition of roads.

[vinbie2019]

My dealer salesman is saying he will take booking amount only after they get directions from M&M. He will send me QR code of Sireesh motors. Is this same approach across dealers? Anyone opted for QR code/UPI payment option?

[Venkatesh]

New Scorpio-N bookings open on 30th July at 11AM.

The introductory price is applicable only to the first 25,000 bookings.

Link

[Dushie]

Originally Posted by akannath

After a lot of thinking and discussions and following feedback from multiple fellow BHPians, I finally cancelled my booking for the Kia Carens today. Was a hard decision because the vehicle ticked all the boxes for me (including the looks departments which many may not agree) but the safety factor eventually tipped the scales. My search continues and Scorpio Z6 Diesel is on the radar.

Anyone who has experienced the 3rd row space, do you think it will be Okayish for adults below 5'3" for short distances? I know this is very subjective as I have seen several feedbacks ranging from atrocious/absolutely useless to Ok for smaller frame adults. Hence the question.

Will be checking out the car in person when I am in India in the 1st week of Aug.

I also booked Carens a month ago and was at waiting list 126. Within a month i am down to 99, maybe due to cancellations , folks moving on or more deliveries happening. At this rate i may end up getting my car by Diwali. Was planning to book Scorpio N but cancelled as its not meant for 7 people or to carry luggage which Carens can easily do. So will not end up booking Scorpio N and would leave it in cart. Security wise it is 3 star rated, But it checks all the boxes in terms of space, features and comfort. Also its within the budget, will get it 4 lakhs cheaper than the Z4 i was booking.

May look at Scoprio N again, if they make changes to the boot, 2nd row and 3rd row inclination, seat movement and 50:50 split for last row seats. As currently some of these are a showstopper. Also no reviews of the lower power diesel engine is a something which made me change my mind.

[sweetvar26]

Hey guys, quick question. Any idea on what the kerb weight for the XUV700 and ScorpioN is?

Just trying to see how much more heavier the ScorpioN is.

[Knightrider]

Originally Posted by Dushie

Was planning to book Scorpio N but cancelled as its not meant for 7 people or to carry luggage which Carens can easily do. So will not end up booking Scorpio N and would leave it in cart. Security wise it is 3 star rated, But it checks all the boxes in terms of space, features and comfort. Also its within the budget, will get it 4 lakhs cheaper than the Z4 i was booking.

Completely agree. I was also tempted to cancel my Carens booking for ScorpioN. But on checking the ScorpioN physically, apart from the road-presence and commanding seating position, it did not check other boxes in terms of space, features and practicality.

Z8 Petrol AT was the one I was looking at, which is comparable to Carens 1.4P DCT Luxury Plus. But looking at the ScorpioN AT prices and the lack of features and convenience even in Z8 compared to that in Carens, decided to abandon the cart and will not book the ScorpioN.

[sweetvar26]

Originally Posted by sweetvar26

Hey guys, quick question. Any idea on what the kerb white for XUV 700 and ScorpioN is?

Just trying to see how much more heavier the ScorpioN is.

My bad, I meant Curb weight, looks to be some sort of auto correct, can't edit the post now.

[sulliavi]

Originally Posted by akannath

Anyone who has experienced the 3rd row space, do you think it will be Okayish for adults below 5'3" for short distances?

My wife is 5'3"ish and she was comfortable in the 3rd row.

Originally Posted by Dushie

May look at Scoprio N again, if they make changes to the boot, 2nd row and 3rd row inclination, seat movement and 50:50 split for last row seats. As currently some of these are a showstopper. Also no reviews of the lower power diesel engine is a something which made me change my mind.

For instance, Mahindra has not given Auto dimming IRVMS in XUV700 (any feature for that matter) even after 9+ months of its launch, so there is very less chance of them adding above features in ScorpioN (in next one year)

And FYI, there is inclination for 2nd row seats.

peace