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Old 5th March 2020, 09:35   #1021
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The FNG I go to advised against cleaning the injectors as it will fail again very quickly. Haven't been able to verify that.
So far, we've tried to ensure the injectors are in top shape by filling in diesel from reputed places. As a precaution at the 5 year mark, we've tried LiquiMoly diesel purge too.
There's not much about the 5 year mark that does bad things to your injectors. Have you put a lakh or more km on the car yet? Then watch for injector failure and treat it as a replaceable part. Till then ensure your fuel filter is replaced on a proper manufacturer recommended schedule along with the usual oil / air / AC filters.
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The FNG I go to advised against cleaning the injectors as it will fail again very quickly. Haven't been able to verify that.
So far, we've tried to ensure the injectors are in top shape by filling in diesel from reputed places. As a precaution at the 5 year mark, we've tried LiquiMoly diesel purge too.
If there is no problem with the injectors, do not clean them as well. Why fix something if it ain't broken.

I would suggest a bottle of liqui moly diesel additive every 5K kms to keep the injectors in good shape
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Hi Guys,

I need some advice. I have just given away a 2009 Swift VDi for 50K due to the 10 Year NCR rule, and I have recently got a 2008 Swift VXi from my sister to sell as well as she has shifted to Mumbai. The car has done about 150K(yes that's correct) on the ODO. The engine is in good condition. Not so sure about the AC. The tires are brand new so is the battery. There was a clutch plate change done recently(I got that one done). The body needs work. The bumpers need to be changed and the car badly needs a paint job. The car will fetch approx 50K as I have enquired about the same at 2-3 places. If I plan to keep this it will just be a car swap for me considering my Swift VDi went for the same price.


This would be my third car in the garage and it's more like a spare car for the wifey(Prior to this it was the Swift VDi). Others are a 2016 Brezza and a 2011 City driven by me and my dad.

Thinking about restoring it to its old glory as if I were to look at a decent second-hand car it will be well above 3 Lac. Wanna keep this for the next 3 years or so. The car needs a complete paint job bumpers need to be changed, the steering has some play so that needs some work and maybe some Aircon work(AC works but cooling is not as effective). As per my calculations, I'll be spending around 50K on it(Or let's say I'm willing to spend that much). The car is pretty much drivable as I have given my Brezza to wifey and driving this from the past 20 days to evaluate the condition of the car. Driven it for around 500 Kms since I got it.

If I let this go then I'm looking at a Tiago a decent condition less driven would come for around 3.5L but its not fun to drive. Ignis is my second choice but a decent condition less driven will cost me around 4L. Not considering a WagonR as I don't like the shape. Figo is also under consideration but a good condition Figo is also around 4L. For that matter any car I consider I will be spending 3+ Lac over what I can have this for.

Remember that this would not be the only car in my garage. If I restore this car I might keep this for myself and leave Breeza with wifey at home as this is so much more fun to drive and easy to park. Should I really be spending extra 3.5L for another second-hand car or should give this car a restore considering it will go out of fitness in the next 3 years?

Advise me, please.
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So guys, here's my case!

Currently have a 2014 Vento diesel with 99k on the odometer. The original plan was to keep it for 7 years. It's already 5.75 years. I know it's 1.25 years too early but there are two primary issues
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Any other suggestions? Whatever happens, I can't compromise on the FTD aspect
Retain the car - no brainer on that.

The cases were for the 2011-2012 batches; and I'm a little surprised to hear about 2014 batches failing, but I don't believe it's a concern to be pro-actively worried about.

Do note I'm one of the unfortunate ones who faced the injectors failing (3 out of 4) and yet being able to drive them in that state. The car feels very sluggish; doesn't go beyond 30s, but it is possible to drive short distances. I checked with my mechanic (and VW specialists) and drove the car to the garages. And had the car running for ~2 years post the injector change (and a 1L INR ticket), so I'd say no-long term damage if one has to re-do this scenario with a different car.


Get your EGR valve cleaned (that definitely is required around the 5-year mark); get secondary opinions from VW specialists on the injector cleaning; and please continue with the vehicle tension-free
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Remember that this would not be the only car in my garage. If I restore this car I might keep this for myself and leave Breeza with wifey at home as this is so much more fun to drive and easy to park. Should I really be spending extra 3.5L for another second-hand car or should give this car a restore considering it will go out of fitness in the next 3 years?
No airbags or anything else but a 2008 swift is built to last. Petrol so you can certainly do the FC and keep driving it. Check at a good independent AC place what it will take to get the AC back running (change the AC filter, see if the cooling coil needs cleaning, before trying anything else on it).
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Hi Guys, Advise me, please.
Tricky situation. I'd have kept the petrol Swift for 3 more years.

For 50k over the purchase price to bring it back to shape, you get 3 years of validity with the Swift. I don't see any point in spending 7x that amount on a random used car to get 4x the benefit (assuming 12 yr remaining validity).

Do not go all out with restoration though. Spend only on the essential repairs to keep the car in mechanically fit and aesthetically acceptable condition. Gleaming new paint from a top-rated paint shop or brand new bumpers won't fetch you anything after 3 years. So spend accordingly.

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Petrol so you can certainly do the FC and keep driving it.
Even petrol cars are not allowed beyond 15 years in NCR.

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Even petrol cars are not allowed beyond 15 years in NCR.
Well, if 50k or less gets you three years of use, go ahead and use it for those three years. It should be trouble free.
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In the post Covid era, this article would be more relevant than ever.
There is talk of a long recession, job losses and a generally difficult time. Keeping the five year old car seems to be a sensible choice.
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Dear Experts,

I own a 2013 1.5 Diesel Ecosport.
Maintained spotlessly as per team bhp standards and serviced regularly at ASS. ODO reads 83,900 now and AC Compressor (Costing 35,000) needs urgent replacement as informed by SA. The not so immediate replacements include Steering rack (14,500), Front Suspension (8,500), Clutch (12,000).

Highly motivated by GTO's posts I bought my pre worshipped beast at her 4th birthday with 30k on the ODO... Now with all these up front costs, I am really worried as there are other replacements like Timing belt etc., Which comes at 1 lakh odo reading.

Now, I need Inputs/Suggestions on
1.Servicing the vehicle at ASS or any other independent service station in Hyderabad.
2. I also feel like selling the vehicle now and go for other pre worshipped vehicle

Thanks in advance. Please provide your thoughts
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1.Servicing the vehicle at ASS or any other independent service station in Hyderabad.

2. I also feel like selling the vehicle now and go for other pre worshipped vehicle
All depends on how long you want to hold the car. If you decide to retain it for a longer duration, you can get the repairs done in a staggered way (important ones first) at an FNG.
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All depends on how long you want to hold the car. If you decide to retain it for a longer duration, you can get the repairs done in a staggered way (important ones first) at an FNG.
Thanks for your reply Anurag. I am planning to keep the car for 3 more years, if there aren't any issues from the engine compartment. I prepared myself for the expenses mentioned in the above post.

As per team bhp directories for FNG in Hyderabad, I am contacting New Mars and Tune up Independent Garages today for their quotes for the AC compressor otherwise I will get that fixed at ASC.
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My 8 year old Brio is still going strong at just 35,000 kms on the clock, driven mostly by my wife purely for in-city drives - hence the very low mileage.

Given that the car has been discontinued a year or two back, how long can I safely hold on to her without worry of spare part and service availability? Very few cars on the current market match the Brio's go kart feel, zippy performance, great manouverability and reliability and thus I am happy to hold on to it for some more time as the second car in the garage. Car is otherwise in perfect mechanical condition. We were planning to replace it this year, but now with the pandemic, upgrade plans are indefinitely delayed.
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Dear Experts,

I own a 2013 1.5 Diesel Ecosport.
Maintained spotlessly as per team bhp standards and serviced regularly at ASS. ODO reads 83,900 now and AC Compressor , Steering rack (14,500), Front Suspension (8,500), Clutch (12,000).
Now with all these up front costs, I am really worried as there are other replacements like Timing belt etc., Which comes at 1 lakh odo reading.
Please provide your thoughts
Keep the car for at least four more years. The Ecosport has sold in huge numbers which means that spare parts will never be a problem.
The AC compressor can be sourced from the OEM and will be cheaper. Get that work done at an AC specialist garage.
The rack, suspension and clutch can be done as and when they become problematic. The timing belt is a long way off and isn't very expensive.
The Ecosport is a great vehicle; any other used vehicle will need some work before it is a reliable workhorse...and that means a capital outlay over the resale of this car and additional expenses for immediate repairs and a thorough service; not to mention the effort, pain and anxiety of laying your hands on a genuine, well maintained and value for money upgrade.
P.S. Get new seat covers and a thorough detailing to give yourself a good feeling.
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Keep the car for at least four more years. The Ecosport has sold in huge numbers which means that spare parts will never be a problem.
The AC compressor can be sourced from the OEM and will be cheaper. Get that work done at an AC specialist garage.
The rack, suspension and clutch can be done as and when they become problematic. The timing belt is a long way off and isn't very expensive.
The Ecosport is a great vehicle; any other used vehicle will need some work before it is a reliable workhorse...and that means a capital outlay over the resale of this car and additional expenses for immediate repairs and a thorough service; not to mention the effort, pain and anxiety of laying your hands on a genuine, well maintained and value for money upgrade.
P.S. Get new seat covers and a thorough detailing to give yourself a good feeling.
Thank you so much for the inputs. I have decided to stay with the vehicle for atleast 3 years. Right now the beast is at FNG (New Mars, from Team bhp directory). I need to wait till tomorrow to get the update on whether they can make the compressor workable or replace. I already got the seat covers to my liking recently, However I am planning to get the paint job done for driver side door if the compressor is repairable.

I will update on the total costs and things done once the work is completed.
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I am in 2 minds about my 2012 Civic. The car is in excellent condition inside and out except for a few scratches on the bumpers thanks to the car being parked in the open and will be rectified in a couple of weeks. It's just 56k kms, with aftermarket Sachs Germany suspension, new MC5 tyres, new battery, etc. However the car has only been driven for 1500 kms since Feb 2019, mainly because I work from home and have the Duster as well. My last fuel up in the car was in March, that too half tank since I always fuel up at half tank for all the cars.

My wife doesn't drive and prefers me driving her around or Ola/Uber. Now with the pandemic, when movement is more or less normal, she is planning to use a driver from DriveU and use the Civic. I love the car a lot, always pampered and I am not really comfortable with the Civic or the Duster in the hands of a driver. Also if anything gets spoiled, the replacement cost will also be higher since I do not believe in jugaad. So my dilemma is do I keep the Civic and let her use it as less as possible with a driver or sell it and get a used hatch like a Brio or Swift. I have offers of between 4-4.25L on it.
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