[Hbh]

Originally Posted by Nalin1

How to not cross a road

Well, yes and no. No, because they were on the zebra crossing and as per the rules, vehicles are supposed to slow/stop for pedestrians. Yes, because this is not the ideal world or the ideal country to rely on that rule.

Also, not wanting to be 'that guy' but isn't this an infrastructure issue? Shouldn't there be a pedestrian bridge for such a big road instead of a zebra crossing? Who knows, maybe there is a bridge nearby and no one uses it.

[MT_Hyderabad]

Originally Posted by Nalin1

How to not cross a road

https://Youtu.be/TQclZIEYjnU

Someone is using a zebra crossing and trying to cross the road with all the care (not rushing), but still they are at fault?

At least take cues from the opinion shared by official traffic police social media handle, before passing any judgement.

[binand]

Originally Posted by Nalin1

How to not cross a road

Every single driver who did not stop and allow that couple to cross the road here is complicit. The biker who cut across lanes and hit the lady must be particularly reviled. What terrible driving manners on display.

At the very least that trucker had the presence of mind to do the right thing.

[jaaz]

Yes, Biker is distracted in conversing with the Pillion. Truck driver should be appreciated for his presence of mind and swerving to the left, but at the same time, it could've been fatal for some other rider on to his left. Thankfully, only an Auto was brushed with. Don't think the Truck driver had any time to look on to his left side. End of the Day, he did save one life, who could've come under the wheels.

Another unrelated issue observed in Bangalore - Many times we see Two 2 wheeler riders speaking to each other while driving, unmindful of the traffic behind and on to their left or right. They are high potential accident creators.

[Thad E Ginathom]

Originally Posted by binand

Every single driver who did not stop and allow that couple to cross the road here is complicit. The biker who cut across lanes and hit the lady must be particularly reviled. What terrible driving manners on display.

Completely agree.

In this city, many bikers do not even need to be "distracted:" they just charge right on even when other traffic has stopped.

[jkrishnakj]

Looks like this happened around a peak time. Does Bangalore have a ‘No Truck/Heavy vehicles’ timings / rule inside city roads?

[Axe77]

Originally Posted by binand

Every single driver who did not stop and allow that couple to cross the road here is complicit. The biker who cut across lanes and hit the lady must be particularly reviled. What terrible driving manners on display.

I was about to write exactly this. There is a zebra crossing and a couple trying to cross it cautiously. Every single driver who didn’t stop for them is at fault.

Not only does it show lack of understanding of traffic rules (pedestrians crossing on a zebra crossing certainly warrant right of way) but also a complete lack of civic sense and empathy.

At the very least that trucker had the presence of mind to do the right thing.

Full marks to the truck driver for his prompt evasive action at least (not that he was stopping either) and luck was on the side of the motorists on the left of the truck that the manoeuvre didn’t cause undue damage.

[chaitanyakrish]

Originally Posted by hemanth.anand

Looks like the truck driver wasn't careful enough.

Similar incident at Minneapolis and this caused a huge traffic issue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD3AVDx85Zc

[Ram22693]

Originally Posted by Nalin1

How to not cross a road

https://Youtu.be/TQclZIEYjnU

So many things to note here, both good and bad.

1. Cyberabad Police posting this can do a lot to rectify this situation - Get a pedestrian crossing signal for the stretch if it isn't already there. It is unsafe for anyone to cross the road, even on the zebra crossing the way the people did it here with all the oncoming vehicles. Before they point the finger at anyone else, they need to look at themselves.

2. The presence of mind of the lorry driver here to save her from certain death is commendable.

3. The above seemed in spite of the biker distracting the lorry driver.

4. This is more how not to ride a bike than how not to cross a road. If you follow just the biker from the beginning till the end of the video he makes 3-4 mistakes that are easily rectifiable if he was just paying attention.

[Bhokal]

Isn't there supposed to be a traffic signal at every zebra crossing?

[binand]

Originally Posted by jkrishnakj

Looks like this happened around a peak time. Does Bangalore have a ‘No Truck/Heavy vehicles’ timings / rule inside city roads?

There are four lanes and shoulder on the carriageway. I doubt there is any road in Bangalore that can boast of all that.

It is probably Hyderabad - looking at the auto livery and the fact that it is Cyberabad police posting this.

[Rohan265]

Originally Posted by Hbh

Also, not wanting to be 'that guy' but isn't this an infrastructure issue? Shouldn't there be a pedestrian bridge for such a big road instead of a zebra crossing? Who knows, maybe there is a bridge nearby and no one uses it.

I think it is high time all of us start being "that guy". Too much time and effort is spent arguing over whose fault led to a crash. I am not just talking about this case in particular. This human fault-finding practice is followed throughout the country. We tend to focus too much on human error and less on infrastructural issues. As you correctly pointed out, poor road design is a contributor to this crash. Although I haven't been to the place, the traffic volume indicates that an at-grade midblock pedestrian crossing should not be used at this particular location. I would guess that many such conflicts occur at this location daily.
An overhead crossing is much safer. This on-road pedestrian crossing should be removed entirely if there is indeed an overhead bridge available close by.

The police's youtube channel is also silent on this point. Only blaming the bike rider for this crash won't lead to any long-term solutions. The road developer is equally culpable.

Originally Posted by Bhokal

Isn't there supposed to be a traffic signal at every zebra crossing?

Not at midblock pedestrian crossings as per the IRC.

[jkrishnakj]

Originally Posted by binand

There are four lanes and shoulder on the carriageway. I doubt there is any road in Bangalore that can boast of all that.

It is probably Hyderabad - looking at the auto livery and the fact that it is Cyberabad police posting this.

You’re right. I missed the final comment in the video. And looking at the Bus, it’s definitely not Bangalore. Definitely seems like Hyderabad.

[Thad E Ginathom]

Originally Posted by chaitanyakrish

Similar incident at Minneapolis and this caused a huge traffic issue.

Heaps of this stuff on Youtube. I think that watching trucks and vans loose roofs and/or cargo is a Recognised Way Of Wasting One's Life On The Internet.

I've done it myself a couple of times.

Originally Posted by Bhokal

Isn't there supposed to be a traffic signal at every zebra crossing?

Noooo! Zebra crossings are at many places and sometimes on lesser roads. Making them all signalled would be a huge challenge and, with a little decency on the part of drivers, completely unnecessary.

In my mother country, pedestrian crossings are almost god-like in their authority. Lots of people may not stop for waiting pedestrians, but once a foot is on the crossing, everyone stops. It is considered serious not to. But crossings, there, if not controlled, are well marked, easily visible, with flashing orange lights at each side. Wide roads will also be divided, with pedestrian islands in the middle.

Originally Posted by Rohan265

Too much time and effort is spent arguing over whose fault led to a crash. ... ... ... We tend to focus too much on human error and less on infrastructural issues.

Let me be the other guy and say, boldly, No! Every accident is down to human error. Which of us, for a moment, imagines that we are driving on superbly thought-out, well-designed roads? None of us. So it is not a surprise to any of us.

By all means, lobby for better infrastructure. How can cities be described as "smart" when we can't even get people safely across a road? I'm with you, feeling strongly about this stuff. There are other issues too, as per my comments above. How, in heavy traffic, was any vehicle supposed to know of the existence of the crossing?

But none of that detracts from the fault of the biker. Even if there had been no pedestrian crossing there, he mowed down a pedestrian.

[JoshMachine]

Dashcam records wrong overtaking maneuver

A 38-year-old motorcyclist suffered injuries after crashing into a car on the Talegaon-Chakan road on Saturday. A camera on the dashboard of the car captured the accident, following which the Pimpri Chinchwad police registered a case of rash and negligent driving against the biker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvHOLMKzsOY

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