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Old 28th May 2024, 00:59   #286
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The initial bail granted by the Juvenile Justice Board was done by a non-judicial member, not an actual judge. The JJB consists of three persons on the bench. One Judicial member would be the principal judge(JMFC: Judicial Magistrate First Class), who also heads the bench. Along with him, there are two non-judicial members who supposedly are social workers.

On that fateful day, JMFC was on holiday; a hearing was arranged (by whom or shall we say who's insistence??) before this non-judicial member (Name has already been published in the media) heard both arguments. The main issue was all sections levied were bailable. Police cannot ask for Police Custody if sections are bailable. (Hence the outcry why 304 was omitted from the Initial FIR, which would have facilitated the Police to get PC of CCL).

So, after hearing the arguments, the Accused got bail with ridiculous conditions. Fortunately, a judgment passed by a single member of the Juvenile Justice Board is void ab initio. Hence, a review petition was filed expeditiously, and the bail was consequently cancelled by the principal magistrate, and so on.

The scoop from the district bar association is that since members apart from the principal judge can be terminated post enquiry by the state government, one such enquiry is being contemplated by MoL&J Maharashtra. The undersecretary has been tasked with the same. The Home minister's open displeasure in the press had wider implications than expected. They might be waiting for this storm to settle down a bit to maintain the decorum of the institution, but the sacking is imminent.

This episode has shown how rotten our entire Executive/Judiciary/legislative system is. Doctors/Politicians/Police/Judiciary/Excise. Pune's CP is a very upright and no-nonsense officer with a fairly good track record. I suspect he was genuinely kept in the dark by his juniors (PI of that Police station and DCP who was with MLA till the early hours). He was specially brought to Pune after his commendable work in Nagpur. After all this fiasco and how he conducts Press daily, It seems the Police are going at it at full throttle. It's sad to see what they are doing now is what they should have been doing from the start, not after the huge public uproar and nationwide coverage.

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Old 28th May 2024, 09:21   #287
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The things that have unfolded are ungodly.

1. Minor commits homicide by drunk driving (That's three MAJOR offences right there).

2. Blood sample of the minor is swapped with someone else's by the head of the testing lab at whichever hospital the sample was sent to.

3. Driver was abducted by brat's grandfather and his family was threatened.

4. Bail was illegally given to the murderer by a non member. There were also supposed to be two justices. The fellow who gave him bail is himself being investigated due to his shady background.

5. The accused, his father and grandfather are now under arrest.

What else do we know?
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1. Minor commits homicide by drunk driving (That's three MAJOR offences right there).
2. Blood sample of the minor is swapped with someone else's by the head of the testing lab at whichever hospital the sample was sent to.
3. Driver was abducted by brat's grandfather and his family was threatened.
4. Bail was illegally given to the murderer by a non member. There were also supposed to be two justices. The fellow who gave him bail is himself being investigated due to his shady background.
5. The accused, his father and grandfather are now under arrest.
Off topic. The accused family members character resembles the family of Kaleen Bhayya in the Net series Mirzapur
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Old 28th May 2024, 10:15   #289
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Please don't forget the price Shastri had to pay for his ruthless honesty!
True that, while people Google that, also google what happened to Justice Loya, Sanjiv Bhatt.

As you rightly said, every honest one has a price to pay.
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Old 28th May 2024, 10:25   #290
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With so many things going wrong, I was shocked to read that even the friends of the deceased (who were there at the time of accident) have admitted that the teen wasn't driving, it was their driver. Plus, I personally feel that all the divergence in this case is being done to reduce / scatter the punishment across many individuals. (leaders, doctors, police personnel and others).

On the other hand, all of us are aware that this is just one case which got highlighted. There are so many happening each and every day. The infamous Merc SUV of Mumbai or the Jaguar from Gujarat and the list goes on.

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Old 28th May 2024, 10:35   #291
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I was recently visited by my friend you moved to London post our graduation, it’s been 5 yrs he is being living there.

While having conversation, I asked him
Bro whats the most basic thing that you feel India lacks, apart from infra, tech yada yada..

He just replied with “Dignity for Life, India at very basic levels lacks dignity for life

And as things unfold in this thread, he’s certainly right!
It’s more like Gas Lighting on an enormous scale. The rich and powerful have all powerful politicians work for them because they fund them. The politicians has the police work for them officially and listen to them. So what is the value of the innocent victims? Nada!
The involved people are ready to bend backwards to tamper evidence because of the fear from the rich and powerful.
The problem lies in our political system which panders to rich and powerful.
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Such incidents just show how much the country needs to work on securing justice to the middle class. This week another elderly was 'murdered' by an Audi driver in Noida and the cops have been anything but helpful to the normal public. Not sure how such people even command respect in society but let's address the main culprit here - money and the arrogance of the wealthy in the country who can get away with such heinous acts without any shame.

So let us as a society try to find the money trail - where are these Agarwals and Ambanis getting their money and try our best to name and shame every company helping them earn this blood money or as the Chinese do adopt a cancel culture for such companies/ corporates. I know it is a long shot and we can only do so much. However the issue here is having more money than respect for others and common sense. The only way such people in the country will start respecting is when you take away the very money from the source.
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Old 28th May 2024, 10:52   #293
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In all this, apart from the victims, I also feel bad for the staff of the 2 pubs who have now got caught in all this.

What were they supposed to do, when you hear a lot of these folks being shot at (Jessica case to even this week) in India?

The case of the doctors and driver is less clear. Was it just money or fear of coercion as well? Even a HoD doctor may suffer if they do not do the bidding of a well connected builder, so the money may just be an icing and fear may be a big factor.
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I wonder what the public reaction and media reporting would have been had the same incident occurred with the same kid but with a Creta/common vehicle.

He probably would have gotten away with it.
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When the system is out to punish anyone who does their job, and reward those who are pliable, I would not expect the powerless doctor to standup against the might of ML/Police/Courts and the Juvenile Board.
Agree with your earlier part, but the doctor Taware is not clean himself. He was pushed up by mla Tingre in December 2023.
Also even for regular cases doctors are known to siphon off money to sign documents.
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Old 28th May 2024, 11:56   #296
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As of today morning (28th May), a news has come up in a reputed Marathi daily that the head of SIT (Special Investigation Team) and her 3 colleagues who are a part of this probe have been compromised as well. I do not have all the details but if true, this could lead to opening of another black box. I am glad that the Pune CP is tackling this head on - at least gives some hope to the general public that someone is cognizant of the public uproar and widespread displeasure of the entire Medical/Political/Police/Builder/Excise nexus.
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I wonder what the public reaction and media reporting would have been had the same incident occurred with the same kid but with a Creta/common vehicle.

He probably would have gotten away with it.
If it is a Creta or some other common vehicle, it is unlikely that the owner will be able to bribe their way through from top to bottom. Bribing police, doctors, judges, and many others is not easy for someone who owns a common vehicle, so it won't be much of a problem. In fact, the police usually won't try to solicit bribes in such cases. However, if political power is involved, the police might be hesitant right from the start. ( Like this case )

If it is a common man, he won't get bail within 24 hours; it may take 2 to 3 days. That's the difference. Not like common man going to get hang straight.

He probably would have gotten away with it

He probably would have gotten away with it after 3 days or 1 week
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I wonder what the public reaction and media reporting would have been had the same incident occurred with the same kid but with a Creta/common vehicle.

He probably would have gotten away with it.
I think one of reasons for the outrage was the fact that bail was given on a weekend, with ridiculous conditions like writing an essay - Creta or not, that was the cause. The fact that an unregistered Porche was involved is definitely a major catslyst, no doubt.
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Why is the media not questioning the Police Commissioner on what action has been taken against the MLA Sunil Tingre? This guy went to the police station immediately after the accident and influenced the activities there. He supposedly also called the doctors at the hospital when the blood sample was being tested.
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Agree with your earlier part, but the doctor Taware is not clean himself. He was pushed up by mla Tingre in December 2023.
Also even for regular cases doctors are known to siphon off money to sign documents.
Is this the same kidney smuggler doctor who was fired?

https://www.hindustantimes.com/citie...043140604.html

And was then reinstated by MLA Tingre?

https://www.hindustantimes.com/citie...839387155.html
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