Six-Vehicle Crash! Two Dead! Four Bungalows...

Whenasked · 26th April 2007, 20:04

My condolences to their families. Its high time in India we give more respect to fellow citizens. Atleast in US, majority of people accepts a mistake while on the road.

But in India, we consider accepting a mistake of ours as a strict no no..hence road rage & tensions are all over the road.

In schools we should start teaching our kids on how to control temper & behave more responsibly towards fellow citizens.

normally_crazy · 26th April 2007, 21:04

Guys,

Just thinking about this - what if the kid in the rear seat of the Swift had strapped up his seat belts ? Maybe he could have been saved , maybe ? Off course point of impact and all those uncertain factors will play a role but still.......

Why do we ignore seatbelts at the rear ?

wolfinstein · 26th April 2007, 21:11

Lesson Not Learnt - Drive Unsafe..! Give Cars to your children under legal age..! Race all over the road..!

Lesson Learnt- Drive Safe, Be it at any time of the day..! Ensure a Responsible person with valid driver license behind the wheel..! Lane Driving-Sense Driving.

Its only the Rich families to blame, Got only Money and Money to rule them all..!

Nanda ( BMW), Alistair Perera ( Everyone knew he was guilty), Slam Khan..Oops Salman Khan,The Kid who ran over a divder in VK into an oncoming car,This One..! The Ford Accident on the Marine Road..! Most of them have only Money and Dumb Irresponsible Folks..in common..!

vikram_d · 27th April 2007, 11:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by amtak

Moral of the story: Always wear the seat belts. Airbags save.

I feel the time has come for the govt to make ABS/Airbags compulsary. Increase the penalties for not wearing a seat belt...

Care for life...

You have got your moral completely wrong. The moral of this story is dont go racing or indulge in rash driving on city streets no matter what time of day nor how tempting the road might be.

vkochar · 27th April 2007, 12:03

BTW since we are discussing rash & unsafe driving, has anyone noticed the profile pics of some of our Team BHP mates, many of those show their cars speedos maxing up ( 180 , 200 etc. ), might get a thrashing for this message. I assume those max speeds were not done at any race tracks, they would be done on outskirts of cities / or NH's . Sorry if I pointed this out but that is also a big risk that these guys take. NO OFFENCE to anyone in particlular.

rks · 27th April 2007, 12:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by vkochar

Quoting RKS - great depiction of the accident, I think that is what happenedd, you have spent some valuable time writing it all , Cheers !!

Thanks. Note that my analysis is based on the TOI depiction and the available evidence of the damage to the vehicles. Other scenarios could fit in if the TOI depiction is wrong. Secondly, the crucial question here is whether the Swift driver over-reacted; could the accident have been averted with a milder swerve by the Swift? We may never know the answer. The poor Palio guy probably died never knowing what hit him; he may not have seen the Tempo at all, if the Swift was obstructing his view.

If somebody can get hold of a detailed accident report or if there are any further updates, please do post here. We cannot expect the Press to follow up; they are only interested in the sensational details.

Technocrat · 27th April 2007, 12:07

@nc:I really doubt seat belt would have done any good, take a look at the rear left side of the car its totally smashed & who knows may be he was wearing the seat belt although it seems unlikely.

Dippy · 27th April 2007, 12:19

Youve got a point techno. He was seated at the left rear and I doubt even being belted would have saved him looking at the state of the rear left of the Swift. The belt would have held him in place but crushed him at the same time since he wouldnt be able to move.

But NC is speaking in general safety terms that even the rear seat belts should be used since they are OE equipment in all Indian cars.

vkochar · 27th April 2007, 12:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by rks

If somebody can get hold of a detailed accident report or if there are any further updates, please do post here. We cannot expect the Press to follow up; they are only interested in the sensational details.

Yes, you are right, press is more interested in getting pics of the nailpolish colour that ash wore when going to tirupatiji.

Sadly, this media hype in our country results in ppl saying '' oooh, such a terrible accident '' & the in a few hrs the news change & ppl forget what happened. Really very sad. I am glad that we have posts like these which at least have some meaning & someone would realise the next time when they drive after they read these posts. It has made a slight difference in my driving these past 2 days after going through these posts.

Ford Rocam · 27th April 2007, 13:15

It's indeed a very vary sad situation & the parents of young kid who are in deep shock, their loss cannot be described. one of the kid who lost his life Mr Abhishek Sethi, his father happens to be close family friend of mine & i have known Abhishek personally who lost his life in the accident, I have met him quite some time during visit to their residence, he was a sweet guy. Its a tragic that i am going today for condolence (chautha) today at their place.
I hope people who have care free attitute learn from this incident & realize the risk involved in such road rage indulging their & other lives in danger they should know there is someone waiting for them at the home & they are the one who are hurt most.

My deepest condolence to both their Parents & family members who lost their teenage son.

Dippy · 27th April 2007, 13:27

That is what these kids dont realize. They do not think about their loved ones. I can imagine what parents who have lost a teenage son must be going through. But even such incidents dont help in teaching a lesson to others.

Today's TOI had another story of an NHC hitting a biker duo with them getting thrown off the bike and one of them dying after being crushed under a BEST bus.

finneyp · 27th April 2007, 14:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by vikram_d

You have got your moral completely wrong. The moral of this story is dont go racing or indulge in rash driving on city streets no matter what time of day nor how tempting the road might be.

You got it right Vikram!
It is applicable at Highways too!

jkdas · 28th April 2007, 07:14

OT, dont you think its coz this accident was caused by "kids", its IN news!

If you are seniors then you haev contacts and then things go hush hush!

rider60 · 28th April 2007, 10:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkdas

OT, dont you think its coz this accident was caused by "kids", its IN news!

If you are seniors then you haev contacts and then things go hush hush!

i think i agree to some extent!

khaadu75 · 28th April 2007, 11:03

Guys, Its a simple fact that we can't deny and that is the adrenaline rush guys have at that age ... and to make it worse they have cars that do these phenomenal sppeds , and havn't learnt the basics of driving fast . Simple tricks like braking using gears -- makes one stop much faster , staying away from the clutch except for shifting , etc etc !!!

And I guess we all have pushed machines at that age of 17-23 , and only after that do we realise that we are being stupid , and that there are other elements on the road that we may not have control over but cud cause us injury / damage . So lets not go saying kids are irresponsible etc as thats the age everyone across the world does the same thing , and will carry on doing it .

Im saying this from personal experience .... at that age we also did stuff with cars which when I think of now .. sends shivers down my spine !! But at that time it was cool ... and we never thought about stuff like loved ones and stuff as the brain probably aint designed to think of such stuff . It is sad ... but then --------

SAD but INEVITABLE ............. !!!

MORAL Of the STORY -- kids shud be told that a race track is where one shud head to ... and the streets aint for racing . Unfortunately parenst wud cringe at the thought of that , sO that leaves the kids with the roads to race on . PROMOTE MOTORSPORTS to parents .

26th April 2007, 20:04	#196
Whenasked BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 71 Thanked: 4 Times	Very bad My condolences to their families. Its high time in India we give more respect to fellow citizens. Atleast in US, majority of people accepts a mistake while on the road. But in India, we consider accepting a mistake of ours as a strict no no..hence road rage & tensions are all over the road. In schools we should start teaching our kids on how to control temper & behave more responsibly towards fellow citizens.
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26th April 2007, 21:04	#197
normally_crazy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,369 Thanked: 528 Times View My Garage	Guys, Just thinking about this - what if the kid in the rear seat of the Swift had strapped up his seat belts ? Maybe he could have been saved , maybe ? Off course point of impact and all those uncertain factors will play a role but still....... Why do we ignore seatbelts at the rear ? Last edited by normally_crazy : 26th April 2007 at 21:17.
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26th April 2007, 21:11	#198
wolfinstein BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 994 Thanked: 20 Times	Lesson Not Learnt - Drive Unsafe..! Give Cars to your children under legal age..! Race all over the road..! Lesson Learnt- Drive Safe, Be it at any time of the day..! Ensure a Responsible person with valid driver license behind the wheel..! Lane Driving-Sense Driving. Its only the Rich families to blame, Got only Money and Money to rule them all..! Nanda ( BMW), Alistair Perera ( Everyone knew he was guilty), Slam Khan..Oops Salman Khan,The Kid who ran over a divder in VK into an oncoming car,This One..! The Ford Accident on the Marine Road..! Most of them have only Money and Dumb Irresponsible Folks..in common..!
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27th April 2007, 12:03	#200
vkochar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Delhi / Agra / London Posts: 2,146 Thanked: 819 Times View My Garage	BTW since we are discussing rash & unsafe driving, has anyone noticed the profile pics of some of our Team BHP mates, many of those show their cars speedos maxing up ( 180 , 200 etc. ), might get a thrashing for this message. I assume those max speeds were not done at any race tracks, they would be done on outskirts of cities / or NH's . Sorry if I pointed this out but that is also a big risk that these guys take. NO OFFENCE to anyone in particlular.
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27th April 2007, 12:07	#202
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,813 Thanked: 2,700 Times	@nc:I really doubt seat belt would have done any good, take a look at the rear left side of the car its totally smashed & who knows may be he was wearing the seat belt although it seems unlikely.
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27th April 2007, 12:19	#203
Dippy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 7,561 Thanked: 2,474 Times	Youve got a point techno. He was seated at the left rear and I doubt even being belted would have saved him looking at the state of the rear left of the Swift. The belt would have held him in place but crushed him at the same time since he wouldnt be able to move. But NC is speaking in general safety terms that even the rear seat belts should be used since they are OE equipment in all Indian cars.
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27th April 2007, 13:15	#205
Ford Rocam BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mumbai-India Posts: 878 Thanked: 23 Times	It's indeed a very vary sad situation & the parents of young kid who are in deep shock, their loss cannot be described. one of the kid who lost his life Mr Abhishek Sethi, his father happens to be close family friend of mine & i have known Abhishek personally who lost his life in the accident, I have met him quite some time during visit to their residence, he was a sweet guy. Its a tragic that i am going today for condolence (chautha) today at their place. I hope people who have care free attitute learn from this incident & realize the risk involved in such road rage indulging their & other lives in danger they should know there is someone waiting for them at the home & they are the one who are hurt most. My deepest condolence to both their Parents & family members who lost their teenage son.
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27th April 2007, 13:27	#206
Dippy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 7,561 Thanked: 2,474 Times	That is what these kids dont realize. They do not think about their loved ones. I can imagine what parents who have lost a teenage son must be going through. But even such incidents dont help in teaching a lesson to others. Today's TOI had another story of an NHC hitting a biker duo with them getting thrown off the bike and one of them dying after being crushed under a BEST bus.
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28th April 2007, 07:14	#208
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	OT, dont you think its coz this accident was caused by "kids", its IN news! If you are seniors then you haev contacts and then things go hush hush!
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28th April 2007, 11:03	#210
khaadu75 BANNED Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: same as the proposed venue for F1 ;-) Posts: 1,156 Thanked: 16 Times View My Garage	Guys, Its a simple fact that we can't deny and that is the adrenaline rush guys have at that age ... and to make it worse they have cars that do these phenomenal sppeds , and havn't learnt the basics of driving fast . Simple tricks like braking using gears -- makes one stop much faster , staying away from the clutch except for shifting , etc etc !!! And I guess we all have pushed machines at that age of 17-23 , and only after that do we realise that we are being stupid , and that there are other elements on the road that we may not have control over but cud cause us injury / damage . So lets not go saying kids are irresponsible etc as thats the age everyone across the world does the same thing , and will carry on doing it . Im saying this from personal experience .... at that age we also did stuff with cars which when I think of now .. sends shivers down my spine !! But at that time it was cool ... and we never thought about stuff like loved ones and stuff as the brain probably aint designed to think of such stuff . It is sad ... but then -------- SAD but INEVITABLE ............. !!! MORAL Of the STORY -- kids shud be told that a race track is where one shud head to ... and the streets aint for racing . Unfortunately parenst wud cringe at the thought of that , sO that leaves the kids with the roads to race on . PROMOTE MOTORSPORTS to parents . Last edited by khaadu75 : 28th April 2007 at 11:16.
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