Laser Eye Surgery - LASIK discussion

carboy · 26th July 2009, 14:38

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Originally Posted by lohithrao

Nope, it was due to Lasik...

actually i was making up my mind for Lasik but the moment i heard about this i just gave up

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You will find people who have had a "successful" surgery, but major
issues came up 8-12 years after the surgery.

If some small dust goes into your eyes, for a moment your eye becomes
unbearable. So however a small a side effect happens on your eye, it will
seriously affect the quality of your life.
Elective surgery on an important body part like the eye, is something I will never ever do.

Check my other posts in this thread

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/shifti...ml#post1113043

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/shifti...ml#post1123973

quickdraw · 26th July 2009, 21:18

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Originally Posted by beejay

Wave front guides a laser surgery. Every eye is unique just like our fingerprints, the wavefront technology measures the exact distortion of light for each eye.

If you don't mind me asking, how much are they charging?

They asked for about 48k for both the eyes. Is there a single institute/clinic to get this done in India regarded the best in terms of infrastructure? Lets not talk about testimonials for now because this thing seems like a calculated risk from everything I've read till now. Who has the most advanced tech according to bhpians?

vivekiny2k · 27th July 2009, 00:52

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Originally Posted by lohithrao

unluckily for him he is one among the people with whom this surgery does not go well...

Though many claim that its very safe but there is certain percentage of risk involved and it can be dangerous!

I wrote a blog a while back (link thru my homepage) about statistics.

They are just numbers until you become a part of it.

abhishek_bmw · 27th July 2009, 23:32

Look guys, I am stating my profession in the forum for the first time.
Please do not take it otherwise.
I am not an Ophthalmologist,I am a surgeon.But,definitely I know something about Ophthalmology as it was one of the subjects in M.B.B.S. curriculum.
I have not read the entire thread due to lack of time,I dont know if there are any respected professional brother and sisters have already written about it.
One should not undergo a LASIK or similar procedure,unless he has pathological Myopia(that is the "power" of the eyes are becoming more and more,requiring lenses like -10 Diopter or more) or other pathological condition associated along with myopia which makes it absolutely useful procedure.
Contact lenses are better option,though it carries the risk of various infections,which may lead to corneal ulceration with bad prognosis.It should be advised to the professionals who will have problem with their glasses to work with and to persons with some pathological conditions.
Now,why should not one will go for LASIK with small myopia,like I have?
-Every surgical procedure carries more or less risk,thats why You,the patient have to sign a concent before going through the procedure.
-If complication arises,your cornea will be lost(=blind),even more worse may happen(Endopthalmitis-infection of the whole eye globe).Mind that the tranparent cornea once lost,it does not regenarate as a tranparent piece again.There is no artificial corneal subsitute graft-So,we the doctors,NGOs,all medical profession associates,Govt. request You to donate your cornea after your death-it is for those poor fated people who lost the tranparency of cornea(=blind) either Congintally(=from birth),after trauma ,infection or other pathological process.Doctors can put the donated cornea to these people,so that they can see.
-your billing is too much,you can buy thousands of high quality and very light weight rimless spectacles at that price and it needs very little care for higene.
I am using rimless spectacles with best lenses available for last seven years,before that I used normal glasses,two pairs of contact lenses for one year.I do not feel anything wrong with my appearance nor have any difficulty with my works.
If elective LASIK had no risk at all,all the doctors with spectacles would go for that at a fraction of the cost than a general people would pay for.
Do not go for it,unless your Ophthalmologist says that you have no way left other than it(=absolute indications).

Much is said from my side,it is your own eyes,so the last decision depends upon you.Just know that,there is no body in this world can create your eyes again if it is once been destroyed unfortunately.Your money can not buy an eye.
If you still feel you are looking bad with your glasses,please consult with a Psychriatist.It is not the problem with your eyes,but your mind.

BaCkSeAtDrIVeR · 28th July 2009, 11:31

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Originally Posted by abhishek_bmw

Do not go for it,unless your Ophthalmologist says that you have no way left other than it(=absolute indications).

Sort of sums up my policy. I stay awat from this inspite of having rather high myopia, I have decided to stick to glasses / contacts. I travel close to 800 KM a month, On tour for at least 15 days a month. And in course of my travels, stay at least 3 different places.

My longest working days, starts at 4 AM and put on contacts at around 5 AM. I remove them by 10 PM, when I return. Sometimes, return would be around 2 AM. I have 4 - 6 working days like this a year.

A typical extended working day involves contacts from 8 AM to 9 PM, and there are 90 - 100 of them a year.

A normal working day, another 100 of hem, is 9 AM to 6 PM. Happens when I am at home and go office.

Rest of them are either holidays, or "compensatory offs" for my hectic travelling.

Last one year only, I have changed to monthly disposable contacts. Before that, from around 1997, I have been on soft contacts.

Since then, if I have to travel more than 50 KM, I carry a contact lens case with liquid in it. Or a small bottle of lens liquid, if I have space in the bag. Of course, I have to decline surprise invitations for overnight stays.

Take 1 to 2 hour naps (on train) with the lens on. I always travel by public transport when travelling on work. I mostly (not always) use my car when travelling for personal purposes.

Now, which of you has a more hectic schedule, mandating a lasik? (I means, if you think / say that your schedule / life style makes contacts and glasses a nuisance). And remember than public transport (buses. all classes of train travel) is far most dusty and uncomfortable than the safe and insulated confines of my car.

Are contact lenses / glasses a nuisance to me? Certainly yes. But less a nuisance than I will be to my family, if something happens to my eyes.

Well, I have not really done long trips driving alone so cant answer responses like "but I need to drive 8 hours a day, etc".

Thad E Ginathom · 28th July 2009, 13:41

I think I told this before, but it fits with the latest contributions to this thread.

I suffer only from age-related vision problems. I have to wear glasses for close work, reading, looking at stuff in shops, beetles on leaves, LCD screen on camera, etc. It is not Lasik, but there is a treatment to tighten up the lens so that ability to focus on closer objects is restored, and I was very tempted to go for this. It would be a great luxury to be able to do those things again without glasses.

I consulted an independent eye surgeon. He told me that, even if only one in a million people suffer ill effects, what if that one happens to be me? He said that a person cannot sue to get their eyesight back if it is damaged. His advice was very similar to what Abhishek_bmw has posted; never to go for surgery that is not absolutely necessary.

He could have written me a referral, sent me away feeling optimistic about spending my money, and collected his commission. Instead, he had the integrity to tell me what I didn't want to hear but needed to be told.

benbsb29 · 28th July 2009, 13:57

After a colleague of mine underwent Lasik just last week, and is absolutely loving his newfound ability, i was almost convinced. Going by the last few posts, i am now back to square one.

carboy · 28th July 2009, 14:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by benbsb29

After a colleague of mine underwent Lasik just last week, and is absolutely loving his newfound ability, i was almost convinced. Going by the last few posts, i am now back to square one.

Even if you get convinced again, do thorough research before going for it.

I have written some things in some earlier posts of mine.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/shifti...ml#post1108239
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/shifti...ml#post1111639

Thad E Ginathom · 28th July 2009, 14:14

Yes, it is tough to decide, isn't it? There are plenty of satisfied customers posting on the thread.

tj123 · 28th July 2009, 15:39

[FONT=Arial]LASIK if done properly by an expert will yield good results. The convenience of not wearing a spectacles /contact lenses is worth the money spent on LASIK.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial]My wife had under gone a LASIK treatment 4 yrs ago & she has no vision related problem till date.[/FONT]

lambuhere1 · 28th July 2009, 15:51

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Originally Posted by benbsb29

After a colleague of mine underwent Lasik just last week, and is absolutely loving his newfound ability, i was almost convinced. Going by the last few posts, i am now back to square one.

Any rough estimate on the costing part. Having seconds thoughts during this recession period

benbsb29 · 28th July 2009, 16:09

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Originally Posted by lambuhere1

Any rough estimate on the costing part. Having seconds thoughts during this recession period

My colleague got it done in Kolkatta, and it cost him Rs. 26,000/-. The procedure took 10-15 mins. He's back in office after a week. As of now, there are 2 red spots, one in either eye. He's told they would go off after a week or so.

As for the clarity he now enjoys, he's on Cloud nine.

sgiitk · 28th July 2009, 16:15

As far as I know if you are a good case (no other problems, stable distance vision for some years) then you have only one issue. The sculpted lens is much smaller than the entire lens - so you may see some halos in very bright light facing you.

beejay · 28th July 2009, 16:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by lambuhere1

Any rough estimate on the costing part. Having seconds thoughts during this recession period

Zypotix, the most commonly used technique should cost you within 30,000.

Wavefront would be more expensive. This is the latest technology for Lasik.

s0uljah · 31st July 2009, 23:47

Going in for a topography & other basic checkups @ Nethradhama tomorrow.

27th July 2009, 23:32	#169
abhishek_bmw BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kolkata/Shimla/ Posts: 67 Thanked: 8 Times	Look guys, I am stating my profession in the forum for the first time. Please do not take it otherwise. I am not an Ophthalmologist,I am a surgeon.But,definitely I know something about Ophthalmology as it was one of the subjects in M.B.B.S. curriculum. I have not read the entire thread due to lack of time,I dont know if there are any respected professional brother and sisters have already written about it. One should not undergo a LASIK or similar procedure,unless he has pathological Myopia(that is the "power" of the eyes are becoming more and more,requiring lenses like -10 Diopter or more) or other pathological condition associated along with myopia which makes it absolutely useful procedure. Contact lenses are better option,though it carries the risk of various infections,which may lead to corneal ulceration with bad prognosis.It should be advised to the professionals who will have problem with their glasses to work with and to persons with some pathological conditions. Now,why should not one will go for LASIK with small myopia,like I have? -Every surgical procedure carries more or less risk,thats why You,the patient have to sign a concent before going through the procedure. -If complication arises,your cornea will be lost(=blind),even more worse may happen(Endopthalmitis-infection of the whole eye globe).Mind that the tranparent cornea once lost,it does not regenarate as a tranparent piece again.There is no artificial corneal subsitute graft-So,we the doctors,NGOs,all medical profession associates,Govt. request You to donate your cornea after your death-it is for those poor fated people who lost the tranparency of cornea(=blind) either Congintally(=from birth),after trauma ,infection or other pathological process.Doctors can put the donated cornea to these people,so that they can see. -your billing is too much,you can buy thousands of high quality and very light weight rimless spectacles at that price and it needs very little care for higene. I am using rimless spectacles with best lenses available for last seven years,before that I used normal glasses,two pairs of contact lenses for one year.I do not feel anything wrong with my appearance nor have any difficulty with my works. If elective LASIK had no risk at all,all the doctors with spectacles would go for that at a fraction of the cost than a general people would pay for. Do not go for it,unless your Ophthalmologist says that you have no way left other than it(=absolute indications). Much is said from my side,it is your own eyes,so the last decision depends upon you.Just know that,there is no body in this world can create your eyes again if it is once been destroyed unfortunately.Your money can not buy an eye. If you still feel you are looking bad with your glasses,please consult with a Psychriatist.It is not the problem with your eyes,but your mind.
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28th July 2009, 13:41	#171
Thad E Ginathom Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 11,458 Thanked: 30,104 Times	I think I told this before, but it fits with the latest contributions to this thread. I suffer only from age-related vision problems. I have to wear glasses for close work, reading, looking at stuff in shops, beetles on leaves, LCD screen on camera, etc. It is not Lasik, but there is a treatment to tighten up the lens so that ability to focus on closer objects is restored, and I was very tempted to go for this. It would be a great luxury to be able to do those things again without glasses. I consulted an independent eye surgeon. He told me that, even if only one in a million people suffer ill effects, what if that one happens to be me? He said that a person cannot sue to get their eyesight back if it is damaged. His advice was very similar to what Abhishek_bmw has posted; never to go for surgery that is not absolutely necessary. He could have written me a referral, sent me away feeling optimistic about spending my money, and collected his commission. Instead, he had the integrity to tell me what I didn't want to hear but needed to be told.
	() Thanks

28th July 2009, 13:57	#172
benbsb29 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 10,107 Thanked: 14,209 Times View My Garage	After a colleague of mine underwent Lasik just last week, and is absolutely loving his newfound ability, i was almost convinced. Going by the last few posts, i am now back to square one.
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28th July 2009, 14:14	#174
Thad E Ginathom Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 11,458 Thanked: 30,104 Times	Yes, it is tough to decide, isn't it? There are plenty of satisfied customers posting on the thread.
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28th July 2009, 15:39	#175
tj123 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: BLR Posts: 1,166 Thanked: 704 Times	[FONT=Arial]LASIK if done properly by an expert will yield good results. The convenience of not wearing a spectacles /contact lenses is worth the money spent on LASIK.[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]My wife had under gone a LASIK treatment 4 yrs ago & she has no vision related problem till date.[/FONT]
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28th July 2009, 16:15	#178
sgiitk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,971 Thanked: 4,809 Times	As far as I know if you are a good case (no other problems, stable distance vision for some years) then you have only one issue. The sculpted lens is much smaller than the entire lens - so you may see some halos in very bright light facing you.
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31st July 2009, 23:47	#180
s0uljah Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: BLR Posts: 2,222 Thanked: 26 Times View My Garage	Going in for a topography & other basic checkups @ Nethradhama tomorrow.
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