[ethanhunt123]

Originally Posted by Red Liner

Wait for your valve clearance, desmodronic service due at 20k i think. Heard thats quite expensive.

It’s at 30K kms ... should be around 50-55k. Another year or so to go.

I agree that 4K for general service might seem high - but otherwise the dealer economics won’t work. And compared to other manufacturers - it’s not out of the whack. Plus you know exactly how much they will charge beforehand - they have a big poster telling billable hours for each job done.

[vignesh.cv]

Since this is the servicing cost thread, I wanted to bring about an important aspect which is engine oil change. Now there are a million articles on the internet about which oil is great etc., but as owners we need to be informed about what kind of oil to use on our bikes.

The common misconception amongst most is that, if this engine oil is good enough to be used in racing, then it must be good for my bike. While it is true, we also need to consider the implications of such a choice.

Most folks tend to choose Motul 300V as the first choice for their motorcycles irrespective of the the displacement. Now, 300V is a fabulous choice, no doubt about it. However, it is also designed to break down sooner when compared to other fully synth oils.

If you ride mostly on road or tour, then using such an oil means the protection offered by it wears off in a short while (relatively) when compared to other fully synthetic oils. In other words, your drain intervals will have to be much less than the manufacturers recommendation.

So my request to you is, irrespective of the bike you run, if you ride primarily on the roads or tour, please stick with equivalent fully synth oils. Do not use a race oil on a road going bike. If you are into track days and competitive racing, then yes, by all means, use the very best available. Else, you are just throwing away good money for little to no gains.

To sum it up: a product designed for racing makes a lot of assumptions and trade offs on things a road going machine may not afford to compromise on.

[audioholic]

Originally Posted by vignesh.cv

To sum it up: a product designed for racing makes a lot of assumptions and trade offs on things a road going machine may not afford to compromise on.

Very true. We should consider the application area of such items, be it oil or even things like Brake pads, tyres etc. Its a popular myth that the 300V is superior to the cheaper 7100. It could be superior, but IIRC does not come with any ratings as such. I was of the same belief when I got my Ninja. However, Bhanu at Kawasaki explained that the 7100 is best suited for the bike and not 300V.

[sagarpadaki]

Originally Posted by vignesh.cv

Most folks tend to choose Motul 300V as the first choice for their motorcycles irrespective of the the displacement. Now, 300V is a fabulous choice, no doubt about it. However, it is also designed to break down sooner when compared to other fully synth oils.

You are absolutely right. 300V is not meant for street/touring use.

What happened is that around a decade ago, 300V was the only fully synthetic option available in XXw50 grade with a Shell Ultra just making its presence felt. SO, the bikers who wanted good engine oil had not much choice other than 300V. These bikes were mostly Pulsar220 since that was the only mass produced power category bike back then. This led to the rise in popularity of 300V with hordes of people buying(including me) and using this oil not really understanding the purpose of this oil. And the popularity has stuck for a long time. Motul 7100 the daily use version of 300V for road users.

[bigron]

Yup the 7100 should be better for street use and will have a longer drain cycle plus cheaper, but I have boxes and boxes of 300V lying around plus I ride like I stole it, so 300v it is for me.
Not to mention I change oil at will depending upon where and when I ride so a longer drain cycle is of no use to me.

[RodRowdyBiker]

I got my Z900 serviced today in Hyderabad (first service). Total cost was Rs. 9026 including Rs. 2950 for accessories fitting (Crash guard, front fork sliders, rear spools with sliders and radiator guard, all from Zana). The accessories fitting charge is quite steep although I didn't want to risk the bolts not getting tightened to spec by getting it fitted from third party. Overall a good experience although they didn't wash the bike for some silly reason like the person was not available. They did fix my issues with vibrations under engine braking in high RPMs.

[harsha.muvva]

Originally Posted by RodRowdyBiker

I got my Z900 serviced today in Hyderabad (first service). Total cost was Rs. 9026 including Rs. 2950 for accessories fitting (Crash guard, front fork sliders, rear spools with sliders and radiator guard, all from Zana). The accessories fitting charge is quite steep although I didn't want to risk the bolts not getting tightened to spec by getting it fitted from third party. Overall a good experience although they didn't wash the bike for some silly reason like the person was not available.


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How is your overall experience with the service?

Asking this as i always heard only bad things about kawasaki Hyderabad.. none of my friends never preferred to get general service done from kawasaki showroom (from 660’s to h2) even when under warranty.

[v12]

I believe the overall labour cost charged to you was inclusive of the service and the accessories fitting. Kawasaki charges around 2000 per hour for labour (irrespective of fitting or servicing). I had paid 8000 for my first and second service - of which 4000 was the cost of the consumables and 4000 was labour.

[RodRowdyBiker]

Originally Posted by harsha.muvva

How is your overall experience with the service?

Asking this as i always heard only bad things about kawasaki Hyderabad.. none of my friends never preferred to get general service done from kawasaki showroom (from 660’s to h2) even when under warranty.

I had a decent experience. They were attentive to the problems I had and installed my accessories well. Only gripe being I wanted the bike washed as well but the person who washed the bikes apparently left before I went to the service center which seems like a load of bull. On Saturday around 6:30 PM, I had a sudden clutch issue while riding around the city. Since I was only 2 km away from the showroom I just took it there and the mechanic adjusted it immediately for free. Overall I would recommend that you deal with Rahul who is the Owner(or Owner's son). They took about 140 minutes for the entire thing so I guess I would rate it 4/5.

Originally Posted by v12

I believe the overall labour cost charged to you was inclusive of the service and the accessories fitting. Kawasaki charges around 2000 per hour for labour (irrespective of fitting or servicing). I had paid 8000 for my first and second service - of which 4000 was the cost of the consumables and 4000 was labour.

The first item for Labour of Rs. 2950 is for the accessories fitting. Rest of the items are for the general servicing. The cost of washing the bike is also not included. If I had just gone in for my general service, it would have only cost me Rs. 6000.

[udainxs]

Originally Posted by RodRowdyBiker

The first item for Labour of Rs. 2950 is for the accessories fitting. Rest of the items are for the general servicing. The cost of washing the bike is also not included. If I had just gone in for my general service, it would have only cost me Rs. 6000.

Thats interesting

Hells_Fury spent 3000+GST as labour charge for the first service of his Ninja 1000 in Bangalore in March this year. Chain cleaning and lubing was extra even for him. If they didn't bundle the charges as suggested above, then they've slashed prices, which seems unbelievable

[RodRowdyBiker]

Originally Posted by udainxs

Thats interesting

Hells_Fury spent 3000+GST as labour charge for the first service of his Ninja 1000 in Bangalore in March this year. Chain cleaning and lubing was extra even for him. If they didn't bundle the charges as suggested above, then they've slashed prices, which seems unbelievable

I think since they couldn't wash my bike, they didn't use the code for paid service changes which was used in Hells_Fury's bill. Anyways, comparing service costs across bikes might not be fair. The Z900 is a lot easier to service whereas the N1000 has a lot of electronics and is a faired motorcycle. The suspension is more complex as well.

[v12]

I got my Tiger serviced over the weekend at Triumph Mumbai (Shaman Motors). This was my first experience at the Triumph A.S.S. and it was a very pleasant one. I am not sure, but I believe this was the 4th service (still to check the previous service records).

Below are the details of the service :

Total cost (including labor)


Cost of consumables


Cost of labor

[Vasuki]

Originally Posted by RodRowdyBiker

The suspension is more complex as well.

Can you elaborate on this point?

AFAIK the suspension is fairly same in both the bikes. They are manually adjustable.

[Hells_Fury]

Originally Posted by RodRowdyBiker

I think since they couldn't wash my bike, they didn't use the code for paid service changes which was used in Hells_Fury's bill. Anyways, comparing service costs across bikes might not be fair. The Z900 is a lot easier to service whereas the N1000 has a lot of electronics and is a faired motorcycle. The suspension is more complex as well.

Should not matter too much for the first service. All that was done was the wash, oil change, cleaning and lubing. Even the fairing was not fully removed, just a small part for installing the power socket.

[bigron]

Originally Posted by RodRowdyBiker

I think since they couldn't wash my bike, they didn't use the code for paid service changes which was used in Hells_Fury's bill. Anyways, comparing service costs across bikes might not be fair. The Z900 is a lot easier to service whereas the N1000 has a lot of electronics and is a faired motorcycle. The suspension is more complex as well.

Having a computer in your bike and 'complex suspension' has no effect on the amount charged for regular first service or for that matter any regular service that includes air and oil filter/ oil drain and chain clean/lube.

The only time they may charge extra is if accessing the air filter/oil filter on a particular bike takes much longer than another bike due to their location. Even then it should not be more than an extra 15 minutes to remove an entire side of the fairing.