[ethanhunt123]

Originally Posted by v12

Thanks Ethan! I was checking on Motousher for the brake pads and yes they are quite reasonable. Will take a look at it. Any advantage of these over the OE brake pads? They also have Hi Flo air filters available for the Tiger - any advantage of these too over the OE ones?

Dont know about Triumph pricing - but Ducati brake pad pricing was absurd - 16k for the front pair :-) I got the EBC front brake pad pair for 6.5k in comparison.

Performance wise - no difference till now. EBC has the same ferocious bite which the stock Ducati Brembo one's had. Infact even the Ducati dealer in Oregon, US had told me that everyone shifts to EBC even there becuse of cheaper price with similiar performance. I would suspect performance wise - EBC would be better if not same compared to Triumph stock pads.

I have a BMC air filter in my Multi - advantages of a aftermarket filter are mainly two - no need to change them like the stock ones - just clean and oil every 6-7k kms depending on filter condition & better performance than stock filter due to engine breathing easier. Some ppl say aftermarket filters might lead to more dust going in - but i havent seen any evidence supporting the same - and i know of people using K&N/BMC for 50k km+ without any issue on their superbikes in India.

[bigron]

@v12 - Its really a matter of convenience. Hi-flo has fine filters and you should really have no problem using them on your bike. I have used their oil filter on my bike and probably still have it installed. No issues.
Alternatively get a BMC or K/N air filter, both locally available and then you can do the cleaning and recharging yourself.
EBC should give you a better bite. It largely depends on what EBC pads you are getting. There can be for stock replacements, aggressive riding, racing , etc etc.

[ethanhunt123]

In preparation for the upcoming 2nd service - i thought i will finally post my First service bill which happened last year :-)

First Service Update

Model - Ducati Multistrada 1260S

Date: 21 July 2018
Odo Reading - 1022 kms

Service interval as per manufacturer - 1000 kms

Service Centre - VST Ducati


Cost breakup -

Oil: INR 4204 (Shell 15W50 4Litres)
Oil Filter + Gasket : INR 992
Consumables : INR 800
Service Labour : INR 3186 (Billed for 1.5 hours)
Accessory Fitment : INR 531 (billed for 15 min)

Total Service Cost : INR 9713

[bigron]

That is actually not bad in terms of getting the service done at the dealer. The labor charges are okay and the time taken is also reasonable.
I know it can be done in under 1 hour but this is far better than what some of the Kawasaki and Suzuki dealers are charging from what I ve heard.

[ethanhunt123]

Originally Posted by bigron

That is actually not bad in terms of getting the service done at the dealer. The labor charges are okay and the time taken is also reasonable.
I know it can be done in under 1 hour but this is far better than what some of the Kawasaki and Suzuki dealers are charging from what I ve heard.

Ducati is pretty transparent on time taken for service and they bill on the basis of time. (1 hour = 1800 + tax)

For Multi - first service is 1.5 hours and Annual service from then on is 2 hours - so i expect to pay around 4.3k for labour in second service. I will carry my own oil bought off Amazon.

In comparison - for my Z900 - Kawasaki had charged somewhere around 8k for first service if i remember correctly.

BTW in India - you dont really have a option of self service for these bikes if you want to maintain warranty - which i definitely want to do for the electronics laden Ducati.

[GutsyGibbon]

Originally Posted by ethanhunt123

BTW in India - you dont really have a option of self service for these bikes if you want to maintain warranty - which i definitely want to do for the electronics laden Ducati.

Nothing about this statement makes sense. What are you supposed to do if you were to ride your new bikes into Bhutan/neighboring country with no ASC. People in Southern California ride their bikes Ducati Multistrada, and GS1250 all over Mexico, do whatever it takes to keep the bike going. When they bring it back to the US, the dealer fixes anything that is not because of crashes or abuse. Especially electronics. In your case, this is such a dealer scam. On adventure bikes, the things that they do in the first service takes you one hour to do it yourself. Everything is easily accessible. If the warranty threat is holding back owners willing and able to do their own service, it is just plain unfortunate. Perhaps time for owners to join hands in protest and write to the manufacturers.

[bigron]

I do my own service and dealer warranty is of little use to me. Most of these bikes are bullet proof and the after market is flooded with superiors parts.
You do have a temperamental Italian so maybe it makes sense to use them while your warranty is in effect and once your warranty is over you can kiss the dealer good bye.
You dont need a dealer for your Kawasaki. Service it yourself and save all those exorbitant charges.

[ethanhunt123]

Bigron & GutsyGibbon - What both of you are saying is true - but unfortunately we have horrible consumer protection laws in this country and even laxer implementation. Rather than taking chance of a warranty claim rejection leading to an expensive & lengthy legal battle - most people just pay up the dealer premium during warranty period and live with it.

PS: I tried taking Liquimoly oil of same grade 15W50 during first service and the SA told me "it will void warranty"

[vignesh.cv]

Bike : Aprilia
Model : RSV4 RF
Year : 2018

1st Service Cost : Rs. 14200
Odometer Reading : 1000 kms

Breakup :

Liqui Moly 5w-40 4ltr fully synthetic oil: 4700
Oil filter: 1400
Labour charges: 3500
Diagnostics: 1500
Travel: 2500
Consumables: 500

Name / Address of the Service Center : Arco Automotive, Pune

Other comments :

Sumit, the service person flies down from Pune with the needed tools and portable diagnostics. If you need something extra like changing fork oils etc., then intimate them beforehand so they can come prepared with the needed specialist tools. It took a few hours to do the oil change, clean/adjust chain slack, run the diagnostics and wrap it up all together. I did this as soon as I completed the first 1000kms so that I can take her to the track. Overall, I'm very happy with their (Arco) support and service experience and would highly recommend them if you are looking to purchase any of the Aprilia/MotoGuzzi motorcycles.


Also, if you are looking to purchase any of Aprilia accessories like Race ECU etc., it is better to go via them as the pricing is much cheaper than websites abroad.

[ethanhunt123]

Originally Posted by vignesh.cv

Diagnostics: 1500

Wow - they charge 1500 bucks just for connecting their laptop to the bike ? Shouldnt it have been included in service labour ? Or you asked for something extra ?

BTW that RSV4 is a hell of a bike - congratulations :-)

[vignesh.cv]

Originally Posted by ethanhunt123

Wow - they charge 1500 bucks just for connecting their laptop to the bike ? Shouldnt it have been included in service labour ? Or you asked for something extra ?

I'm not sure how it works actually. As part of diagnostics, they check for/flash newer firmware/maps (both dash and ECU) and also reset the throttle learning as the bike has full RBW.

Originally Posted by ethanhunt123

BTW that RSV4 is a hell of a bike - congratulations :-)

Thank you :-) she's just amazes every time with her poise and aggression. Needless to say, I have a long way to go in order to catchup with her abilities. She's got lots to offer.

[neil.jericho]

Originally Posted by vignesh.cv

Sumit, the service person flies down from Pune with the needed tools and portable diagnostics. If you need something extra like changing fork oils etc., then intimate them beforehand so they can come prepared with the needed specialist tools. It took a few hours to do the oil change, clean/adjust chain slack, run the diagnostics and wrap it up all together. I did this as soon as I completed the first 1000kms so that I can take her to the track. Overall, I'm very happy with their (Arco) support and service experience and would highly recommend them if you are looking to purchase any of the Aprilia/MotoGuzzi motorcycles.

Vignesh, congratulations on the RSV4! I am still in amazement at the smoothness and consistency that you exhibited on track with your Honda. I can only imagine what it would be like with the new Aprilia.

Is there any reason that the Bangalore Aprilia dealership doesnt have the required service personnel and / or tools for service? I thought with the opening of the large showroom in Bangalore, after sales would have become a breeze. Here in Cochin when I enquired about the RSV4 last year, they had said that they are able to do the services.

[vignesh.cv]

Originally Posted by neil.jericho

Vignesh, congratulations on the RSV4! I am still in amazement at the smoothness and consistency that you exhibited on track with your Honda. I can only imagine what it would be like with the new Aprilia.

Thank you for the kind words

Originally Posted by neil.jericho

Is there any reason that the Bangalore Aprilia dealership doesnt have the required service personnel and / or tools for service? I thought with the opening of the large showroom in Bangalore, after sales would have become a breeze. Here in Cochin when I enquired about the RSV4 last year, they had said that they are able to do the services.

I did not know about the Bangalore dealership until after I had booked my bike with Arco at Pune last year. Since I had bought the bike from them, I decided to do the servicing via them. I've not had any experience with the Bangalore dealer, but considering the investment made, I hope they will offer a good experience.

[ethanhunt123]

Second Service Update

Model - Ducati Multistrada 1260S

Date: 26 July 2018
Odo Reading - 13890 kms

Service interval as per manufacturer - 15000 kms or 12 months

Service Centre - VST Ducati


Cost breakup -

Oil: INR 2600 (Shell 15W50 4Litres bought off Amazon)
Oil Filter + Gasket : INR 1135
Consumables : INR 856
Service Labour : INR 4248 (Billed for 2 hours)


Total Service Cost : INR 8838


And i thought Italians were supposedly expensive to maintain :P

[Red Liner]

Originally Posted by ethanhunt123

[b][b]Second Service Update

Total Service Cost : INR 8838


And i thought Italians were supposedly expensive to maintain :P

Wait for your valve clearance, desmodronic service due at 20k i think. Heard thats quite expensive.

By the way, for a regular oil change, 4k is outrageous. I have done it at home for a few versys' and it's not any different with a duc. But warranty and all that. Humm.