[nvldvr]

Had taken my scorpio for its 25000 km service. The service guy was suggesting that i should go for "Engine Decarbonisation". The cost quoted was 2000. Since i am very sure, want to ask the experts here if this thing is actually required? Have the other owners also got it done as part of their 20 k service schedules?

[comfortablynumb]

Originally Posted by nvldvr

Since i am very sure, want to ask the experts here if this thing is actually required? Have the other owners also got it done as part of their 20 k service schedules?

Not needed. That guy is just trying to make a fast buck.

Check the 25000 km service column in the maintenance schedule chart [pages 3.2.2 & 3.2.3 in the SLE owner's manual]. Forget "Engine Decarbonisation", it doesn't even have a single replacement ["R"] item in it.

Cheers,
Vikram

[condor]

Originally Posted by nvldvr

Had taken my scorpio for its 25000 km service. The service guy was suggesting that i should go for "Engine Decarbonisation".

Unless you feel a loss of power / decrease in FE, do not go for any additional work.

[4x4addict]

@nvldr: Decarbonisation is now a popular scam in car dealerships. Please don't fall for it. Go by the manufacturers recommended service in the service booklet. Anything beyond this should be done only if vehicle has any issues...

[SS-Traveller]

Originally Posted by nvldvr

..."Engine Decarbonisation". The cost quoted was 2000. Since i am very sure, want to ask the experts here if this thing is actually required? Have the other owners also got it done as part of their 20 k service schedules?

Engine decarb MAY be required beyond 50k km if your oil change intervals are not regular, and/or if you drive around in slow-speed traffic all day but still change your engine oil at the recommended 15k km. Again, it depends on the quality of diesel that you put in (whether adulterated with kerosene etc.), and whether you note a loss of power / FE.

At 25k km there is absolutely no need for an engine decarb. And neither does it cost Rs.2000. Half that for a can of engine flush is all it costs.

[booboo]

i got the 60000 km servicing done on 22nd dec (pre-workshipped crde bought at 48000 km on the odo) in aug 2010. decided to get the engine flushing done as felt the previous owner was not too religious with his servicing (as per records at the service station, i live in the same locality as the last owner and checked details of his servicing on their computer records - we have just one dealer in my hometown, vizag)

from an info point of view, break up asf:


was charged asf (all rates including tax), total 13270

AA) Parts

a) oil filter 158.87

b) sr/fb (part no 0305dc0161n-n (?) 1654.90

(when free will meet the advicor to check what this was!)

c) oil seal 175.99

d) rubber stopper 7.99

e) bush lower link 305.99

f) bush lower link 295.98

g) bulb 162.84

total parts 2762.47

BB) Oils

h) mmcrown - 6 ltrs 1397.98
(maximile crown 15w40)

i) maxmile lc3 grease (mmlc3 -400 gm) 214.14

j) maxmile coolant ( mmcool - 1 lt) 143.50

total oils 1758.62

CC) Labour charges asf

k) qoute bill statemet
'50000 km checklist - non crde' 5956.20
(mine is a crde )

other charges 38.61 (?)

motor care treatment 661.80

engine decarbonising charges 2095.70
(feels much smoother now)

total labour 8752.31

btw today my oem battery exide has refused to start the baby and on getting it checked i found one cell dead
(mt getz exide battery is oem and 6 yrs old and still going strong. the scorpio is just about 2 yrs old, 2008 born)


planning to get an amaron (a pal recommended the hcv620 R type terminal) battery installed tommorow as exide in few swift/swift dzire in extended family have been pathetic of late

whew, breaks my heart to see the baby unwell, tommorow i will take her for a good spin to lift her spirits (and mine)

[condor]

Originally Posted by booboo

CC) Labour charges asf

k) qoute bill statemet
'50000 km checklist - non crde' 5956.20
(mine is a crde )

other charges 38.61 (?)

motor care treatment 661.80

1. 50000km checklist - 6000 Rs is WAY TOO HIGH. What was included in it, that you have already not paid for as part of the service ?

2. Other charges - can be anything. Since it is about Rs 38, let's leave it.

3. What was done as part of Motorcare treatment ?

[4x4addict]

@booboo. Looks like a typical rip off bill to me..

[booboo]

Originally Posted by condor

1. 50000km checklist - 6000 Rs is WAY TOO HIGH. What was included in it, that you have already not paid for as part of the service ?

well, other than the brakepads check which i had specified to the workshop, wheel hubs check etc, wheel alingment ? (nowhere mentioned in the bill,. i was simply told it was included and done, car does steer straight now, before the service pulled to the left noticably as a result of a high speed passage over a unanticipated speed breaker on my vizag-kolkata-vizag trip in the first week of dec 2010)
additionally water wash mainly that i can recollect ,lol

2. Other charges - can be anything. Since it is about Rs 38, let's leave it.

i sure would feel better knowing the details at least,

3. What was done as part of Motorcare treatment ?

interior cleaning (or was it my specifying the workshop to drain all the fluids - good or bad and replenish?)

[booboo]

Originally Posted by 4x4addict

@booboo. Looks like a typical rip off bill to me..

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4 x 4 addict, i partly agree.
( the driver side window was jammed and i was told the motor will need replacement, cost about 4500 but out of stock. i bought the guide bar for 800 bucks and did it myself and works great, lol, saved about 3500 i guess)

but the way she rides now has made a world of difference. the engine is real smooth and she feels so refined and i dont know, young and new.

besides i had to pay the price of the following
a) trusting the seller blindly that he had done the routine services but misplaced the bills
b) going in for a second hand beast without even seeing it (just the assurance of a class mate freind who rode it for 30 minutes vouched for it, btw he also happens to be a second hand car dealer! )
c) it was the first time i spent money on her in the 12000 km relationship
(48000 - 60000 km she was serviceless, lol)

but the real tragedy is unfolding now
a) my battery is to be replaced asap (maybe tommorow morn or latest noon)
b) my tyres, the most i can see is dragging them for about 6 months on the higher side if i dont decide any more outstation trips shortly

maybe someday i will reflect on these kind of bills and worry, today i'm too busy loving the dangereous and untamed beast to bother

[SPIKE ARRESTOR]

Originally Posted by booboo

b) sr/fb (part no 0305dc0161n-n (?) 1654.90

This part no. belongs to a fuel filter cartridge, did u get it changed? If a cartridge costs 1654.90 how much does a new fuel filter cost?

Spike

[gharika]

Originally Posted by SPIKE ARRESTOR

This part no. belongs to a fuel filter cartridge, did u get it changed? If a cartridge costs 1654.90 how much does a new fuel filter cost?

Spike

I think the fuel filter cartridge = fuel filter. In that case I am sure the price is ok. I have got it changed thrice in the past 62000 km and the price is about 1500+ (rounded). The cartridge is the whole thing there is to the filter. The filter body never needs a change unless broken in an accident. Please correct if I am also one of the mistaken lot.

[mooza]

^^ To my knowledge, "cartridge" here should mean only the filter element, which should cost less than 25 to 30 % of the cost of the entire filter assembly comprising the upper and lower bodies (usually cast).

Maybe Spike can confirm this

[SPIKE ARRESTOR]

No, no, fuel filter cartridge can be replaced. If you buy a new fuel filter assy, the cartridge comes with it. The assy. must be costlier.

Spike

[PRADEEP KUMAR]

Folks,
After a service i noticed that the pipe into which the dip stick is held has been broken halfway and the top part comes along with the stick when i remove it to check oil levels. can i replace only the pipe part.pls advice.
cheers