Mahindra Scorpio : Issues & Solutions

anupmathur · 13th April 2009, 17:33

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Originally Posted by raj_5004

the procedure is there in the security manual, that is, if you have got it.

Raj, is it different from the Nippon Manual link that I have posted in the previous post to yours?

raj_5004 · 13th April 2009, 19:38

anup sir, my post was based on the same link!!! i have not got such a manual.

anupmathur · 13th April 2009, 19:43

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Originally Posted by raj_5004

, my post was based on the same link!!! i have not got such a manual.

That is why I posted it, Raj!
That's the complete manual.
You can click on each pic to see it enlarged.

You can even take a print out and make a booklet of it!

Mohnish · 13th April 2009, 21:27

[quote=raj_5004;1258299]...they said it does not come in mHawks!!!/quote]

Not true...I got the same manual that Anup has posted.

@Anup: As usual really nice picture

m_upreti · 15th April 2009, 13:10

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Originally Posted by raj_5004

it has been average. whenever, i have visited the service centre, they have been very courteous & patient with me.

Thanks Raj, let me give one more try at G3 the 2nd service is due this week end.

The engine is still revving high & the play in the clutch is very much noticable:

5th Gear:
80 KMPH - 2000
90 KMPH - 2500
100 KMPH - 2900
105 KMPH - 3000

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Liner

Very true on the RFID bit. The M&M Nippon unit sucks. You have to be within 2 feet of the car to lock or unlock. If I had to do it, I would just lock the car using the key.
Anyone else having this *trouble*?

I had the same problem, got it checked and reset by the Nippon guys, now the range is over 100 mts.

[quote=Mohnish;1258637]

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Originally Posted by raj_5004

...they said it does not come in mHawks!!!/quote]
Not true...I got the same manual that Anup has posted.

I was also told that the manual dosent come with the factory fitted units. I got the manual after I lodged a complaint on mail to M&M. The same was sent to the Dealer from where I collected it.

Red Liner · 15th April 2009, 13:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by m_upreti

I had the same problem, got it checked and reset by the Nippon guys, now the range is over 100 mts.

Hmmm, I will have it re-set right away. Its very annoying! I am going to have the Nippon guys come over.

Red Liner · 18th April 2009, 21:24

Have any Scorpio owners here (of the 2.6 and the mHawk), faced any issues with the clutch release bush spring?

Apparently, the lubrication leaks out, and there is an annoying friction that develops as you depress and release the clutch. Nothing dangerous, however - extremely annoying!

For some reason, with this issue, I also feel that the engine is straining more as I rev the car. Basically, I feel the nvh levels are higher at lower RPM levels (1st, 2nd and 3rd gears). Is this what other mHawk owners face? I would love to have another trusted mHawk owner try my car out and tell me what the scene is.

I went over and got it lubricated, but the issue is back. I have also taken another independent opinion at VST Motors in Chennai just to be sure. They say that this is a normal issue on the Scorp's and have even talked to M&M about this, but no news from them. Apparently, 99% of Scorpio's suffer from this problem (and those that dont - apparently, the owner's have gotten used to them).

What do you guys think? just cannot place my finger on whether I am being very finicky and touchy about this.

Cheers

raj_5004 · 19th April 2009, 12:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Liner

Have any Scorpio owners here (of the 2.6 and the mHawk), faced any issues with the clutch release bush spring?

For some reason, with this issue, I also feel that the engine is straining more as I rev the car. Basically, I feel the nvh levels are higher at lower RPM levels (1st, 2nd and 3rd gears). Is this what other mHawk owners face? I would love to have another trusted mHawk owner try my car out and tell me what the scene is.

Cheers

my hawk is 1 year old now, touch wood, no issues with the clutch release
bearing.

NVH levels are HIGHER at LOWER rpm, strange!

anupmathur · 19th April 2009, 12:53

I've had no problems with the clutch.
I believe this problem appears on vehicles after mid 2007 or so.

WanderNomad · 19th April 2009, 14:12

My clutch after being depressed comes back slowly and I feel just before coming fully it takes a break. Is it what you are talking about?

Red Liner · 19th April 2009, 14:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by raj_5004

my hawk is 1 year old now, touch wood, no issues with the clutch release
bearing.

NVH levels are HIGHER at LOWER rpm, strange!

Hmmm...the higher NVH at lower RPM is something I am going to check again. Maybe the engine needs to free up further? I have finished a 1600 klicks now and have started getting more aggressive with the car.

I find the sound insulation on the Scorpio absolutely worthless. My FIAT had factory fitted sound installation that was leagues ahead.

Quote:

Originally Posted by anupmathur

I've had no problems with the clutch.
I believe this problem appears on vehicles after mid 2007 or so.

Your clutch set up is different - and hence you are lucky.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WanderNomad

My clutch after being depressed comes back slowly and I feel just before coming fully it takes a break. Is it what you are talking about?

I am not sure...its a cricking sound when you pump the clutch in and depress. It goes crick crick crick, and its basically the spring that lacks lubrication. If your issue is different, I recommend having this clutch spring bush looked at.

I have been told that lubricating this every service should be it. Still annoying.

raj_5004 · 19th April 2009, 17:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Liner

I find the sound insulation on the Scorpio absolutely worthless. My FIAT had factory fitted sound installation that was leagues ahead.

again quite strange!
i find the insulation in terms of engine noise, road noise & tyre noise to be better than both the innova & safari.

Red Liner · 19th April 2009, 18:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by raj_5004

again quite strange!
i find the insulation in terms of engine noise, road noise & tyre noise to be better than both the innova & safari.

Drive a diesel fiat ,and you will know what good sound insulation is. In the scorp i can hear most of the noises on the outside. The fiat muted a lot of it. These europeans really know how to pamper you.

raj_5004 · 19th April 2009, 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Liner

Drive a diesel fiat ,and you will know what good sound insulation is. In the scorp i can hear most of the noises on the outside. The fiat muted a lot of it. These europeans really know how to pamper you.

drive any german car & then you will feel the fiat too noisy!

anyways, here we should be comparing the scorpio to its direct competitors- innova & safari.

Red Liner · 19th April 2009, 21:24

Bah, screw the innova and safari. I hate getting second best. I will figure out a way to just insulate this thing myself. And i am going to kill if a solution is not found for the clutch spring.

13th April 2009, 19:38	#212
raj_5004 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dubai/Mumbai Posts: 5,238 Thanked: 3,168 Times	anup sir, my post was based on the same link!!! i have not got such a manual.
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Mohnish BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 205 Thanked: Once	[quote=raj_5004;1258299]...they said it does not come in mHawks!!!/quote] Not true...I got the same manual that Anup has posted. @Anup: As usual really nice picture Last edited by Mohnish : 13th April 2009 at 21:29.
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18th April 2009, 21:24	#217
Red Liner Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,366 Thanked: 19,180 Times	Scorpio Clutch release bush spring Have any Scorpio owners here (of the 2.6 and the mHawk), faced any issues with the clutch release bush spring? Apparently, the lubrication leaks out, and there is an annoying friction that develops as you depress and release the clutch. Nothing dangerous, however - extremely annoying! For some reason, with this issue, I also feel that the engine is straining more as I rev the car. Basically, I feel the nvh levels are higher at lower RPM levels (1st, 2nd and 3rd gears). Is this what other mHawk owners face? I would love to have another trusted mHawk owner try my car out and tell me what the scene is. I went over and got it lubricated, but the issue is back. I have also taken another independent opinion at VST Motors in Chennai just to be sure. They say that this is a normal issue on the Scorp's and have even talked to M&M about this, but no news from them. Apparently, 99% of Scorpio's suffer from this problem (and those that dont - apparently, the owner's have gotten used to them). What do you guys think? just cannot place my finger on whether I am being very finicky and touchy about this. Cheers
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19th April 2009, 12:53	#219
anupmathur Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 3,095 Thanked: 311 Times	I've had no problems with the clutch. I believe this problem appears on vehicles after mid 2007 or so.
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19th April 2009, 14:12	#220
WanderNomad BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Delhi Posts: 271 Thanked: 11 Times	My clutch after being depressed comes back slowly and I feel just before coming fully it takes a break. Is it what you are talking about?
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19th April 2009, 21:24	#225
Red Liner Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,366 Thanked: 19,180 Times	Bah, screw the innova and safari. I hate getting second best. I will figure out a way to just insulate this thing myself. And i am going to kill if a solution is not found for the clutch spring.
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