[debuda]

Originally Posted by princey

Guys....All XUV owners, Please note, there is a newly designed left wiper, Arm and blade, already coming with the new batches after mid september production vehicles. All those complaining of scratches, will be replaced by the service centres. Looks like one more niggle resolved.

How to identify whether the wiper is newly designed? My XUV-W6 is from early October 2012 batch.

[kaiserketkar]

Originally Posted by debuda

How to identify whether the wiper is newly designed? My XUV-W6 is from early October 2012 batch.

Debuda,
I think your car would come with the new wiper design. However if you're facing any issues with noise or streaks, or, if you just want to be sure- you can take your car to the servicenter and check with those guys which batch onwards the design was changed. Or better still simply ask for a new design wiper and compare it with yours.

[sidwadia]

Guess i spoke too early about the reliability....
Had a clutch failure early this month
Really glad it didnt happen on my Trip to Ladhak.
cheers
Sid

Originally Posted by sidwadia

Folks, glad to share that my Road Trip to Leh/ladhak with the W8 was done without any critical issues.
Attaching two pics that hopefully should be able to assuage concerns around the reliability of the XUV :
1) Conquered Khardungla Top (highest Motorable road)
2) Survived the snow/hail storm at an altitude of 18000 feet

Not sure if i should have posted these pics in the niggles thread, but thought of re-assuring people that whilst niggles certainly do exist with this SUV - but it it does come out a winner in treacherous/off road conditions (mine is a 4x2 and not an AWD).
will post the niggles faced sometime soon.
cheers
Sid

[tictactoe]

Originally Posted by sidwadia

Guess i spoke too early about the reliability....
Had a clutch failure early this month
Really glad it didnt happen on my Trip to Ladhak.
cheers
Sid

You are extremely lucky! Which batch is your XUV? I had thought that the issue with the clutch has now been fixed.

[debuda]

My brand new XUV-W6 had 28 km on the ODO when I took delivery on 25.10.12. Since then I’ve driven it about 100 km only. I found the following problems :

1. ODO : I was checking out the two trip meters and reset them to zero. Then I tried resetting the ODO (it had clocked 65 km), and lo and behold, it actually got reset to zero! After another 30 km of running, I tried resetting the ODO and it again got reset to zero! So about 100 km vanished from the ODO. Subsequent attempts to again reset the ODO haven’t borne fruit but I haven’t given up on my experimentation.
   
2. Coolant temperature gauge : All the 6 segments in the blue zone are always lit up, whether the engine is cold or hot. Wonder whether the temperature gauge is working.
   
   
   
   
3. Bonnet : As the XUV went over a major bump at about 50 kmph, the ‘Bonnet open’ alarm came on. Stopped the car and found that the bonnet lock had indeed opened.
   
4. Bluetooth : Pairing with my Nokia 5800 ExpressMusic was far from smooth.
   
5. Avoidable reflection on the windshield : I find reflections on the windshield of the ‘waterfall-style’ central bezel very irritating. I have temporarily solved the problem by covering the top part of the ‘waterfall’ with a dark-colored cloth.

[PGA]

[quote=debuda;2946254]My brand new XUV-W6 had 28 km on the ODO when I took delivery on 25.10.12. Since then I’ve driven it about 100 km only. I found the following problems :

1. ODO : I was checking out the two trip meters and reset them to zero. Then I tried resetting the ODO (it had clocked 65 km), and lo and behold, it actually got reset to zero! After another 30 km of running, I tried resetting the ODO and it again got reset to zero! So about 100 km vanished from the ODO. Subsequent attempts to again reset the ODO haven’t borne fruit but I haven’t given up on my experimentation.

One time reset of ODO is per the programme. You have managed to fool the system twice, great! But I think that is about all.

Coolant temperature gauge : All the 6 segments in the blue zone are always lit up, whether the engine is cold or hot. Wonder whether the temperature gauge is working.

Somethings have been automated beyond their necessity and this one is one of them, one is always a little apprehensive while driving. BTW reds lighting up doesn't mean that crisis has hit, as per manual, details not with me right now, one can carry on unless three or more of them glow. I do expect that on a steep climb some reds will come on.


Avoidable reflection on the windshield : I find reflections on the windshield of the ‘waterfall-style’ central bezel very irritating. I have temporarily solved the problem by covering the top part of the ‘waterfall’ with a dark-colored cloth.

Yes, will have to get used to it. I mistook the glare to be smoke comming out of the engine and had stopped the car to inspect it midway.

[Zappo]

Ok guys. I have finally something substantial to report on this thread. My 6 months old XUV today suffered a failed PS. I went to a nearby diagnostics center today. The place has a parking on a sharp incline. When I came back and started reversing with a full lock turn of the steering on that incline suddenly I found that the steering was rock solid and was refusing to turn. I was zapped. Then the bulb glowed. I put the car on hand brakes and went out to check. To my surprise the PS fluid was pouring out underneath.

The rest was all about struggle to get 2 ton behemoth back home with zero PS assistance. Being a Sunday the dealership was closed but their roadside assistance vehicle arrived in an hour at my residence. The guy went under the car and then after some inspection and all the verdict was a busted oil seal that can only be fixed at the A$$ tomorrow. They will come tomorrow morning to take it to the A$$. The RM was a gem as always. Helped me a lot on his holiday to patch me up with their roadside assistance guy and was available all the while to assist me over the phone. Told me that they will take this up first thing in the morning to figure what failed and why.

Will keep you all posted. M&M and Tata are both taken down by these substandard rubber parts. I think they seriously need to take a retook at their vendors for these rubber parts.

[nitinralli]

Originally Posted by Zappo

Ok guys. I have finally something substantial to report on this thread. My 6 months old XUV today suffered a failed PS. I went to a nearby diagnostics center today. The place has a parking on a sharp incline. When I came back and started reversing with a full lock turn of the steering on that incline suddenly I found that the steering was rock solid and was refusing to turn. I was zapped. Then the bulb glowed. I put the car on hand brakes and went out to check. To my surprise the PS fluid was pouring out underneath.

The rest was all about struggle to get 2 ton behemoth back home with zero PS assistance. Being a Sunday the dealership was closed but their roadside assistance vehicle arrived in an hour at my residence. The guy went under the car and then after some inspection and all the verdict was a busted oil seal that can only be fixed at the A$$ tomorrow. They will come tomorrow morning to take it to the A$$. The RM was a gem as always. Helped me a lot on his holiday to patch me up with their roadside assistance guy and was available all the while to assist me over the phone. Told me that they will take this up first thing in the morning to figure what failed and why.

Will keep you all posted. M&M and Tata are both taken down by these substandard rubber parts. I think they seriously need to take a retook at their vendors for these rubber parts.

Sorry to hear what happened with you. The only thing i like and would want to highlight is the "RM". They are like angels. I can say for sure about my RM ( i hope he see's this) he is one person i respect and would love to be with till the time i have my XUV. There are things which RM cant do, but the helping nature can only help us heal our pain in these circumstances. No car is perfect, its only the A$$ that helps you get over things. And with the kind of service Skoda/Fiat gives, i am happy that i bought Mahiandra and these RM's nature only build this confidence.

[debuda]

Originally Posted by Zappo

Ok guys. I have finally something substantial to report on this thread. My 6 months old XUV today suffered a failed PS. I went to a nearby diagnostics center today. The place has a parking on a sharp incline. When I came back and started reversing with a full lock turn of the steering on that incline suddenly I found that the steering was rock solid and was refusing to turn. I was zapped. Then the bulb glowed. I put the car on hand brakes and went out to check. To my surprise the PS fluid was pouring out underneath.

Just a few days ago I had reported HERE Power Steering failure in my nephew's XUV which had clocked just 2500 km. That failure seems to be very similar to the one now reported by Zappo. I hope this is not a common problem in XUV's.

[SDP]

Originally Posted by debuda

My brand new XUV-W6 had 28 km on the ODO when I took delivery on 25.10.12. Since then I’ve driven it about 100 km only. I found the following problems :
[list=1][*]ODO : I was checking out the two trip meters and reset them to zero. Then I tried resetting the ODO (it had clocked 65 km), and lo and behold, it actually got reset to zero! ...
[*]Coolant temperature gauge : All the 6 segments in the blue zone are always lit up, whether the engine is cold or hot. Wonder whether the temperature gauge is working.
....

ODO's ability to be reset to zero ONCE before first 250kms is apparently an undisclosed feature of the XUV5OO. Even my ODO was reset by the dealer at 65kms. I never tried to reset it again before 250kms. So the 'once' part is based on other people and the dealer's comments. Based on your experience, seems like it can be reset multiple times till 250kms. If you are able to reset it after you have reached cumulative 250kms, please do report it to the A.S.S.

About the temp gauge-> It is designed that way. So all 7 blue squares do glow all the time. Once you have blinking red, that's when one should be worried. NOT the best design.

Originally Posted by Zappo

Ok guys. I have finally something substantial to report on this thread. My 6 months old XUV today suffered a failed PS. I went to a nearby diagnostics center today. The place has a parking on a sharp incline. When I came back and started reversing with a full lock turn of the steering on that incline suddenly I found that the steering was rock solid and was refusing to turn. I was zapped. Then the bulb glowed. I put the car on hand brakes and went out to check. To my surprise the PS fluid was pouring out underneath.

...
Will keep you all posted. M&M and Tata are both taken down by these substandard rubber parts. I think they seriously need to take a retook at their vendors for these rubber parts.

Sorry to hear that Zappo :-(. I consider you as a 'batch-mate' so to say. So it has definitely shaken my confidence also.

Couple of questions:
1. Was there any indicator glowing either before or after the incident happened which indicated PS malfunction?
2. How many kms did you drive (while returning home) without the PS? You didn't ask for roadside assistance right away?

[anandtheleo]

Originally Posted by Zappo

Ok guys. I have finally something substantial to report on this thread. My 6 months old XUV today suffered a failed PS. I went to a nearby diagnostics center today. The place has a parking on a sharp incline. When I came back and started reversing with a full lock turn of the steering on that incline suddenly I found that the steering was rock solid and was refusing to turn. I was zapped. Then the bulb glowed. I put the car on hand brakes and went out to check. To my surprise the PS fluid was pouring out underneath.

The rest was all about struggle to get 2 ton behemoth back home with zero PS assistance. Being a Sunday the dealership was closed but their roadside assistance vehicle arrived in an hour at my residence. The guy went under the car and then after some inspection and all the verdict was a busted oil seal that can only be fixed at the A$$ tomorrow. They will come tomorrow morning to take it to the A$$. The RM was a gem as always. Helped me a lot on his holiday to patch me up with their roadside assistance guy and was available all the while to assist me over the phone. Told me that they will take this up first thing in the morning to figure what failed and why.

Will keep you all posted. M&M and Tata are both taken down by these substandard rubber parts. I think they seriously need to take a retook at their vendors for these rubber parts.

That's awful news. How long did you drive without the PS not working. Asking this coz when my steering rack was replaced my RM mentioned that when PS fails we are not supposed to drive the car as it put additional strain/load on the steering system. Have them do a thorough check up of the entire system before taking delivery.

[Zappo]

Originally Posted by nitinralli

... And with the kind of service Skoda/Fiat gives, i am happy that i bought Mahiandra and these RM's nature only build this confidence.

Oh yes. The RM can make a lot of difference. However, it also depends on how one interacts with the person. I have seen the same relationship manager lose his cool and mumble some choicest of epithets against a particularly abusive customer. At the end of the day they have been put there to make your life easy. However, if you take the amiable way your RM interacts with you as his weakness then you do that at your own peril.

I have had a good relationship with him all along and that has not harmed me in anyways for sure.

Originally Posted by debuda

Just a few days ago I had reported HERE Power Steering failure in my nephew's XUV which had clocked just 2500 km. That failure seems to be very similar to the one now reported by Zappo. I hope this is not a common problem in XUV's.

Oh yes! I did see that post and in fact was wondering on whether to quote that post when I was posting this issue here. However, I do not think it really deserves any sensationalism as yet. I have not seen any mass reporting of these issues as yet. Also, while the preliminary report by the roadside assistance guy was a busted seal it may very well be something more. Will know later today.

The point remains though that the failure of such mundane parts as rubber seals and hoses only proves that M&M as well as Tata probably do not pay heed to such small part vendors as much as they do on their bigger ones supplying substantial equipments and parts. However, its mostly these things that seem to fail prematurely so often. How many times have we seen cracking rubber beads, leaked hoses etc? I think once too often...

I or for that matter any owner who has spent 1.5 mill, big ones, on a vehicle would not like to see a two pence seal or a hose bring the vehicle to its knees. Does not do much for inspiring confidence of the others.

Originally Posted by SDP

Sorry to hear that Zappo :-(. I consider you as a 'batch-mate' so to say. So it has definitely shaken my confidence also.

Couple of questions:
1. Was there any indicator glowing either before or after the incident happened which indicated PS malfunction?
2. How many kms did you drive (while returning home) without the PS? You didn't ask for roadside assistance right away?

1. Nope. In fact I realized with this malfunction yesterday that M&M still has some scopes for dumping a few dozen more sensors probably in this already sensor laden car. Seriously, they have sensors for every damn thing in this car and yet there is none for PS! Nada. No light nothing, before or after the incidence.

In fact even with all my experience I was sitting inside struggling with that steering for 30 seconds without a clue as to what happened. Then I came out and looked underneath. I think even then I was not sure what i was expecting to see although I knew I will find some clue under the vehicle. Sure enough...the vehicle was just dumping the remnants of the last few drops of the PS fluid left inside. Under the vehicle there was a small pool of red colored PS fluid.

2. I was hardly a couple of Kms away from my home. So drove it back home. Anyhow these things take time to arrive and I had to take my wife back again to the diagnostic center in an hour for another test. So could not have waited there. By the way, I did not call the number they stick behind every XUV. I straightaway called my RM and asked him what to do. Everything was closed as it was a Sunday but the guy just took over from there.

Originally Posted by anandtheleo

That's awful news. How long did you drive without the PS not working.

May be 2 kms Anand. However today morning the car would have been driven another 5.5 kms or so to the service station. The guys arrived at the promised hour to take it back. They also had a bottle of PS fluid. I guess they were hoping that if the leak is not big the PS oil will keep leaking but they should be able to get some assistance in driving some way till it drains out. And then they will top it up again and drive upto the A$$. However, the vehicle just dumped all the oil promptly. So they had to drive cautiously without PS assistance till the service station. They called me after reaching the A$$.

[tictactoe]

Originally Posted by Zappo

Ok guys. I have finally something substantial to report on this thread. My 6 months old XUV today suffered a failed PS.

This is absolutely new niggle. I am not even sure if it should be called a niggle. I am getting serious doubts about the reliability of XUV and especially after I have booked it. My entire purpose of buying a SUV was long drives. While I dont mind a few malfunctioning electronics - PS and clutch failures terrify me. I can't imagine being stuck in the interiors of Bihar, Jharkhand etc. with failed PS. My first preference was to buy a used Fortuner or Captiva. However after XUV was launched, I thought owning a new XUV was better than buying a used vehicle. I read from first post to the last one on this forum and concluded that most of the niggles I could live with.
But now I am really having second thoughts about the vehicle.

[debuda]

Niggle : USB port is located in such a way that pen drives stick out, prevent closing of the lid, and may get damaged too.





Solution : Use a USB cable to connect your pen drive. The lid can then be closed and the pen drive will be safe.

[SDP]

Originally Posted by debuda

Niggle : USB port is located in such a way that pen drives stick out, prevent closing of the lid, and may get damaged too.

..
Solution : Use a USB cable to connect your pen drive. The lid can then be closed and the pen drive will be safe.
...

Thanks for the solution Debuda!
There is an alternate solution as well. There are pen drives available from HP, which are really small and you can close the lid without any issues.


I have 3-4 of those.

HP is not the only one. There are other companies as well who make small pen-drives.