My Experience With Adding Acetone in Petrol

TURBOSAM · 16th October 2008, 17:40

indica <taxi.... from 17 -19 kmpl to 23-25 kmpl...
palio d...>1.3 mjd... 22 kmpl to 29 kmpl.... 1.12 ml per lit..
thanks fine tuning.... c ya

DueLLeR · 16th October 2008, 18:10

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Originally Posted by TURBOSAM

indica <taxi.... from 17 -19 kmpl to 23-25 kmpl...
palio d...>1.3 mjd... 22 kmpl to 29 kmpl.... 1.12 ml per lit..
thanks fine tuning.... c ya

Acetone in Diesel? I thought this thread discussed only adding it to Petrol. My two cents on this - Diesel, as a fuel, has a very high flash point. The fuel ignites with the high compression ratios rather than a spark. Acetone, as I know of it, is a aromatic hydrocarbon like Petrol, and volatile on top of that. Any amount of Acetone in Diesel would effectively bring down the flash point of the mixture (compared to pure Diesel) and could cause the cylinders to 'fire' before completing the compression stroke. Wouldn't this affect the timing of the engine and wreck havoc with the power delivery system?

Also, I doubt how well Acetone would mix with Diesel, Acetone being volatile and Diesel being oil-like. Would they even mix?

Cheers!
DueLLeR

gd1418 · 16th October 2008, 19:58

I dunno about this Alchemy, but acetone mixes very well with diesel, at least visually. Secondly the ratio is quite less to cause any major effect on the firing. I've been using for quite long without any issues till date. Of course the power delivery & smoothness improved considerably.

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Originally Posted by DueLLeR

Acetone in Diesel? I thought this thread discussed only adding it to Petrol. My two cents on this - Diesel, as a fuel, has a very high flash point. The fuel ignites with the high compression ratios rather than a spark. Acetone, as I know of it, is a aromatic hydrocarbon like Petrol, and volatile on top of that. Any amount of Acetone in Diesel would effectively bring down the flash point of the mixture (compared to pure Diesel) and could cause the cylinders to 'fire' before completing the compression stroke. Wouldn't this affect the timing of the engine and wreck havoc with the power delivery system?

Also, I doubt how well Acetone would mix with Diesel, Acetone being volatile and Diesel being oil-like. Would they even mix?

Cheers!
DueLLeR

K a s h · 17th October 2008, 15:43

I have been watching this thread for sometime now and have done some reading outside this forum also. In spite of all the discussions and conclusions that this is a myth (The Great Gas conspiracy), I have decided to give it a try and find it out for myself.

Can someone tell me where I can get acetone in Bangalore

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ashlyak · 20th October 2008, 10:45

I brought from Trust medical store, in Koramangala 1st block.

maestro · 20th October 2008, 15:02

Acetone is an effective solvent for many substances, including some paints. It also can cause deterioration of rubber which is usually found in the fuel system (hoses, disc valves in filters etc). Considering this, I would not like to use it on my vehicle. I was reading some years back that using acetone caused massive corrosion of the combustion chamber surfaces.

Hi hexane · 2nd March 2009, 14:14

Dear All,

I am back with another round of testing. This time I tried to use the combination of Xylene and 2T oil.2ml(of the mixture) per litre of normal petrol. I have been driving around for three months(2000km per month) and I am getting between 10.3 and 10.6 km per litre.The significant difference noticed as compared to using acetone is that increase in power is not felt eventhough the engine runs smooth.

I have tried driving other Corrollas' to check the difference. The obvious thing one can notice is the smoothness of engine and pick up is much better.

My next experiment is ,I want to use 2ml of acetone(to improve acceleration) along with 0.5 ml of xylene and 0.5 ml of 2T oil.I am thinking of using castrol 2T, I guess the quality of Castrol(PIB) is much better than other PSU grades,any thoughts on this , I think I will optimise with this ratio.

Will get back with results.

Cheers

Raccoon · 2nd March 2009, 16:05

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I am thinking of using castrol 2T, I guess the quality of Castrol(PIB) is much better than other PSU grades,any thoughts on this , I think I will optimise with this ratio.

But why are you comparing them with PSU 2t oils? There are many other good/better brands to choose from - Veedol, Gulf, Shell, Motul, etc.

Your best and safest bet might be the fully synthetic from Motul... like I'v mentioned somewhere before. Supposed to burn the cleanest. But its pricy.

Btw, whats the source of your info that Castrol 2t contains PIB? They havent mentioned it anywhere, AFAIK. The only brand that mentions the use of PIB is Veedol.

Hi hexane · 7th March 2009, 16:51

I really do not remember where I got it, but during my initial years in R&D when we discussed about usage of 2T oils ,low smoke ,low friction oils were requiring usage of PIB,if my memory is right at least 25%.Since all these newer oils are conforming to JASO FC which is a low smoke spec,I am assuming these oils should have PIB or other synthetic oils as an ingredient.

neoonwheels · 5th August 2009, 18:18

Can anybody tell me from where can I get PURE acetone in Pune? As TurboSam sais, he got 32% pure acetone in a 100% pure labeled bottle from chemist, so wondering if I can source it from somewhwre else in Pune.

TRAUMASURG · 6th August 2009, 06:11

Yes you may feel that it is giving you better mileage but in the long run it is going to give you a major headache .Acetone does dissolve the rubber hose ,seals and gaskets so be prepared for a major expense down the road.Do a google search on acetone and gasoline you will find articles both pros and cons

archat68 · 6th August 2009, 08:49

2 ml of acetone in 1 liter of petrol means 0.2% acetone. Acetone in this concentration can not harm rubber and plastic components.
Pure acetone (100%) does but 0.2% does not. It's science.

Live To Jive · 6th August 2009, 09:10

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Originally Posted by K a s h

Can someone tell me where I can get acetone in Bangalore ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by neoonwheels

Can anybody tell me from where can I get PURE acetone in Pune? As TurboSam sais, he got 32% pure acetone in a 100% pure labeled bottle from chemist, so wondering if I can source it from somewhwre else in Pune.

Ask at some school or college who the supplier for lab chemicals is. They will be able to give you the details. Otherwise ask your wife. She probably uses it to remove nail polish.

neoonwheels · 6th August 2009, 10:11

Bought Acetone from a chemist today. Filled 4 ltrs of petrol and the bike already has 1 odd ltr. So poured in 2ml * 5 = 10ml of acetone in the bike (Splendor). Right now the bike is parked in the basement of my office. I will get to know the difference once I drive my bike in the evening.

Once I am ok with it, I will use it in my Car (Palio 1.2 Sport) as well. Will keep you guys updated on this.

vinod · 6th August 2009, 16:46

any idea if any residue accumulates in the piston when used with diesel. as acetone being less soluble in diesel than petrol

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16th October 2008, 17:40	#436
TURBOSAM BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: pune Posts: 241 Thanked: 2 Times	long time!! indica <taxi.... from 17 -19 kmpl to 23-25 kmpl... palio d...>1.3 mjd... 22 kmpl to 29 kmpl.... 1.12 ml per lit.. thanks fine tuning.... c ya
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17th October 2008, 15:43	#439
K a s h BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 155 Thanked: 120 Times View My Garage	I have been watching this thread for sometime now and have done some reading outside this forum also. In spite of all the discussions and conclusions that this is a myth (The Great Gas conspiracy), I have decided to give it a try and find it out for myself. Can someone tell me where I can get acetone in Bangalore ?
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20th October 2008, 10:45	#440
ashlyak BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 56 Thanked: 23 Times	I brought from Trust medical store, in Koramangala 1st block.
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20th October 2008, 15:02	#441
maestro BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Chennai, Coimba Posts: 31 Thanked: 12 Times	Acetone is an effective solvent for many substances, including some paints. It also can cause deterioration of rubber which is usually found in the fuel system (hoses, disc valves in filters etc). Considering this, I would not like to use it on my vehicle. I was reading some years back that using acetone caused massive corrosion of the combustion chamber surfaces.
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2nd March 2009, 14:14	#442
Hi hexane Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Chennai Posts: 8 Thanked: 0 Times	xylene plus 2Toil Dear All, I am back with another round of testing. This time I tried to use the combination of Xylene and 2T oil.2ml(of the mixture) per litre of normal petrol. I have been driving around for three months(2000km per month) and I am getting between 10.3 and 10.6 km per litre.The significant difference noticed as compared to using acetone is that increase in power is not felt eventhough the engine runs smooth. I have tried driving other Corrollas' to check the difference. The obvious thing one can notice is the smoothness of engine and pick up is much better. My next experiment is ,I want to use 2ml of acetone(to improve acceleration) along with 0.5 ml of xylene and 0.5 ml of 2T oil.I am thinking of using castrol 2T, I guess the quality of Castrol(PIB) is much better than other PSU grades,any thoughts on this , I think I will optimise with this ratio. Will get back with results. Cheers
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7th March 2009, 16:51	#444
Hi hexane Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Chennai Posts: 8 Thanked: 0 Times	Pib I really do not remember where I got it, but during my initial years in R&D when we discussed about usage of 2T oils ,low smoke ,low friction oils were requiring usage of PIB,if my memory is right at least 25%.Since all these newer oils are conforming to JASO FC which is a low smoke spec,I am assuming these oils should have PIB or other synthetic oils as an ingredient.
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5th August 2009, 18:18	#445
neoonwheels Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 2,065 Thanked: 1,877 Times View My Garage	Can anybody tell me from where can I get PURE acetone in Pune? As TurboSam sais, he got 32% pure acetone in a 100% pure labeled bottle from chemist, so wondering if I can source it from somewhwre else in Pune.
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6th August 2009, 06:11	#446
TRAUMASURG BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: MASSENA, NY. Posts: 87 Thanked: 33 Times View My Garage	Yes you may feel that it is giving you better mileage but in the long run it is going to give you a major headache .Acetone does dissolve the rubber hose ,seals and gaskets so be prepared for a major expense down the road.Do a google search on acetone and gasoline you will find articles both pros and cons
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6th August 2009, 08:49	#447
archat68 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kolkata Posts: 897 Thanked: 619 Times	2 ml of acetone in 1 liter of petrol means 0.2% acetone. Acetone in this concentration can not harm rubber and plastic components. Pure acetone (100%) does but 0.2% does not. It's science.
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6th August 2009, 10:11	#449
neoonwheels Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 2,065 Thanked: 1,877 Times View My Garage	Bought Acetone from a chemist today. Filled 4 ltrs of petrol and the bike already has 1 odd ltr. So poured in 2ml * 5 = 10ml of acetone in the bike (Splendor). Right now the bike is parked in the basement of my office. I will get to know the difference once I drive my bike in the evening. Once I am ok with it, I will use it in my Car (Palio 1.2 Sport) as well. Will keep you guys updated on this.
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6th August 2009, 16:46	#450
vinod BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Detroit Posts: 131 Thanked: 9 Times	any idea if any residue accumulates in the piston when used with diesel. as acetone being less soluble in diesel than petrol
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