OHC Vtec vs Baleno (both stock) - which one is faster to the ton and beyond?

supremeBaleno · 29th November 2007, 18:22

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Originally Posted by doomsday

and also weighs more when compared to the competition, the cast iron block over the wheels not helping matters.

I was also under the impression that the Ikon (being American and all) is much heavier than its peers. But in the 17-car test, its kerb weight is mentioned as 968kg, which makes it lighter than the OHC and Baleno. Is that the correct weight of the Ikon ? Ikon owners ???

pawan · 29th November 2007, 19:17

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Originally Posted by supremeBaleno

I was also under the impression that the Ikon (being American and all) is much heavier than its peers. But in the 17-car test, its kerb weight is mentioned as 968kg, which makes it lighter than the OHC and Baleno. Is that the correct weight of the Ikon ? Ikon owners ???

well the ikon is not american but european mk5 fiesta .

Jaggu · 29th November 2007, 19:53

guys you are using indiacar site for classification info!!! i rest my case !!!

and please move from this OHhhh so my Honda phenomenon and drive other cars and then comment. Yes iKON might be slower and even slower to slow down but what the hell, its the best fun you can get under 7 lakhs then. i bought mine after checking out Honda's, Accents of the world of the world and only thing that tilted me slightly to type 2 OHC was its looks. Baleno was somehow shot down but was the second choice compared to OHC.

Stock Honda is a gals car with absolutely no driver involvement required, when i meant gal i meant the dumb chic who can criss cross on an express way without thinking, its that predictable and easy to use.

enough said!!

Shan2nu · 29th November 2007, 21:07

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I wonder what happened to the much-hyped "sub 10 sec" to the ton for the Vtec ?

Well actually it did a 9.92 during it's road test. If you check any of the older OD mags where the OHC Vtec is mentioned, they use 9.92 and not 10.12. Possible that the fastest 0-100 for an Ikon could have been better than 14.15but on this day, both cars did 10.12 and 14.15 respectively.

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guys you are using indiacar site for classification info!!! i rest my case !!!

It wasn't Indiacar but Overdrive that did this test. Same drivers, same testing conditions and proper testing gear (no speedo indicated figures).

Shan2nu

chetanhanda · 30th November 2007, 04:34

vip3r ..any popcorns left ?

chetanhanda · 30th November 2007, 04:44

sorry posted twice ...

iceman91 · 30th November 2007, 07:28

aah...so its ikon now...
c'mon guys same posts same information different threads...
V1p3r forget popcorn time to crack the scotch and sit back

supremeBaleno · 30th November 2007, 14:27

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Originally Posted by Jaggu

Stock Honda is a gals car with absolutely no driver involvement required, when i meant gal i meant the dumb chic who can criss cross on an express way without thinking, its that predictable and easy to use. enough said!!

@Jaggu, could you please elaborate on this ? I am not sure I understood what you meant by the Honda not requiring any driver involvement, being predictable and easy to use as say compared to the Ikon ??? What's so different between the two cars ?

WhiteKnight · 30th November 2007, 14:44

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Originally Posted by supremeBaleno

@Jaggu, could you please elaborate on this ??

It is a nice way of describing the handling characteristics of iKON, which can wiggle when pushed on a twisting road. Some men like it that way

Jaggu · 30th November 2007, 14:55

Stock OHC set up is very close to neutral, and thats not to my licking. Suspension very soft and feels fragile. Yes if you are doing above 100 and hit a pot hole you will just crash the front end. Steering is light which gets scarier when you touch 120 kph plus and lift off happens at 145 kph.

On the other hand iKON steering itself is meatier nice feedback, chassis tighter and starts to under steer first and suddenly will over steer. The car is not at all forgiving with its handling and un predictable. On the other hand, suspension though pre-historic loves the broken patch, thumping its way through the potholes and yes holding rear in place is good fun.

In short for a involved drive i would choose iKON. Honda too forgiving = boring in my books.

Ok define fun? ask guys who took OHC to tracks how they laughed at iKON drivers trying to correct this, that and what not

me i was grinning myself inside the iKON and not bothered.

Shan2nu · 30th November 2007, 15:16

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Stock OHC set up is very close to neutral, and thats not to my licking. Suspension very soft and feels fragile. Yes if you are doing above 100 and hit a pot hole you will just crash the front end. Steering is light which gets scarier when you touch 120 kph plus and lift off happens at 145 kph.

On the other hand iKON steering itself is meatier nice feedback, chassis tighter and starts to under steer first and suddenly will over steer. The car is not at all forgiving with its handling and un predictable. On the other hand, suspension though pre-historic loves the broken patch, thumping its way through the potholes and yes holding rear in place is good fun.

In short for a involved drive i would choose iKON. Honda too forgiving = boring in my books.

What are you saying dude. Once you say the OHC feels light and takes off at 145kmph and then you say it's boring coz it's too easy to drive and very predictable. How can a car be predictable and boring, if it's barely touching the ground?

U seem to be contradicting your own statements.

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Ok define fun? ask guys who took OHC to tracks how they laughed at iKON drivers trying to correct this, that and what not me i was grinning myself inside the iKON and not bothered.

The only one who religiously gets his Ikon on track is Nitrous and i don't rem anyone laughing at him or his driving. I dunno what made you think so (unless you had a bad experience when you drove on track).

Shan2nu

mobike008 · 30th November 2007, 15:23

yawn, yawn, what is the result, if there is any

Shan2nu · 30th November 2007, 15:28

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yawn, yawn, what is the result, if there is any

LOL, you might as well go to sleep boy. This thread is no diff from the thousands that have been started in the past, it'l just go on n on until someone (read - Rudra) comes and locks it for good.

Shan2nu

supremeBaleno · 30th November 2007, 16:06

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it'l just go on n on until someone (read - Rudra) comes and locks it for good.

OK, before that happens, let us atleast come to a conclusion on the original queries that the thread-creator had.

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has anybody here tested the timings of these two cars under same conditions or dragged them?

The 17-car test is definitely one scenario where these 2 cars were part of the test and from what I read, the testing was pretty unbiased and scientific.