Oh No! Exide battery woes again

R2D2 · 28th September 2009, 20:11

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Originally Posted by MuzzledMoose

Mine is a 12V 60AH battery. Forgot the model number though.

It's an Exide Matrix DIN60.

Rgds,

Raccoon · 29th September 2009, 01:06

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Originally Posted by R2D2

Actually only the Matrix is a bit pricey. That's coz it's the only batt other than the Tata Green using Calcium doped +ve and -ve plates. Other low maintenance batts have calcium only on +ve OR -ve but not both. The only other mfr to offer this type of batt is Tata Green. They call them green batts coz they're supposed to last about 1 lakh Kms which would translate about 5-10 years of use for a majority of car owners which in turn saves the environment by reducing the frequency of batt replacements.

Rgds,

Hmm... ok. Would be interesting to know how long these green batteries perform in real. If they really do last 10 years, then you gotta stop thinking of batteries as consumables... they would last almost till the time a lot of people keep their cars.

But I dont see how they are considering their life in terms of kilometers. Batt life is more time dependent rather than how many kms you have done on the odo. That is of course if the battery does not encounter adverse conditions while in working service.

R2D2 · 29th September 2009, 09:09

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Originally Posted by Raccoon

Hmm... ok. Would be interesting to know how long these green batteries perform in real. If they really do last 10 years, then you gotta stop thinking of batteries as consumables... they would last almost till the time a lot of people keep their cars.

If you ask me Tata Green's 1 lakh Kms claim is only a marketing gimmick. It has no basis in fact (or science) but only via assumptions.

And yes, as you correctly said, if batts lasted 10 years you could definitely stop thinking of them as consumables. V few folks retain their cars more than 10 years. Will I consider a TG for a batt replacement? No, not just yet. Let the brand prove itself.

Rgds,

MuzzledMoose · 29th September 2009, 11:37

Hmm either way the old day maintenance type batteries last for more than 5 years if maintained properly. But that needs religious checking of water level every fortnight. I had a 12v 5AH battery in my KB100 that lasted for 5 years!!!

Raccoon · 29th September 2009, 14:50

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Originally Posted by R2D2

If you ask me Tata Green's 1 lakh Kms claim is only a marketing gimmick. It has no basis in fact (or science) but only via assumptions.

And yes, as you correctly said, if batts lasted 10 years you could definitely stop thinking of them as consumables. V few folks retain their cars more than 10 years. Will I consider a TG for a batt replacement? No, not just yet. Let the brand prove itself.

Rgds,

Not to beat the dead horsie too much,

but my logic is that a brand like Exide has consistently "disproved" itself, whereas one like Tata Green is yet to prove itself. So my chances are much better that I get lucky with Tata Green. If forced to choose between the two, I'd go for TG without a second thought.

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Originally Posted by MuzzledMoose

Hmm either way the old day maintenance type batteries last for more than 5 years if maintained properly. But that needs religious checking of water level every fortnight. I had a 12v 5AH battery in my KB100 that lasted for 5 years!!!

As I have mentioned earlier, the OEM Amco Yuasa that came with my Shogun lasted 7 years!! The dealer could hardly believe his eyes when the battery was given back to him for exchage! I would once again emphasise - it was "Amco Yusa" and not "Amco". The Amco of today seem to be crap and the stock one in my CBZ-x leaks as shamelessly as Exide and has spoilt its metal bracket, and the swingarm! I have been behind the dealer/HH to take responsibility for this mess created by their substandard batteries. They have agreed to repaint both the things. But I am insisting on replacing the bracket and painting the swingarm. Replacing the swingarm I want to avoid, as I'm pretty sure the baffoons at their service centrer will mess up something or the other and maybe even screw up the alignment and make scratches elsewhere. Lets see what happens.

Based on my experience, I have this feeling that Amcos might be made by Exide... does anybody know better? Amco don't make their own batteries, do they?

janitha · 29th September 2009, 16:42

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Originally Posted by Raccoon

Based on my experience, I have this feeling that Amcos might be made by Exide... does anybody know better? Amco don't make their own batteries, do they?

It seems they have a manufacturing plant at Bangalore.
Batteries, (AMCO Batteries Ltd., India): TRIM Products Services

Raccoon · 29th September 2009, 17:54

Ya, but that dosen't mean they manufacture them from scratch...

mithun · 29th September 2009, 19:54

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Originally Posted by Raccoon

As I have mentioned earlier, the OEM Amco Yuasa that came with my Shogun lasted 7 years!!

Same pinch !

My Crompton Greaves on my old 4S Champion also lasted for 7 years !

Raccoon · 29th September 2009, 23:49

Crompton Greaves had a battery??

mithun · 3rd October 2009, 07:06

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Originally Posted by Raccoon

Crompton Greaves had a battery??

Now, they are not having any batteries !

HotChillyPepper · 29th December 2009, 17:07

Just called up BOSCH dealer in JC road and got a quote of 11K for a BOSCH Silver 100AH battery for my Optra Magnum(With old battery exchange). Is this quote reasonable?

jessie007 · 16th February 2010, 17:43

Battery in my Indigo (Diesel) conked-off today. Had got it checked recently and the mechanic told that one cell was weak, but the car was cranking in the first go, so thought will run for sometime. The battery is a factory fitted Exide and was going to complete 4 years in early March this year. The car has clocked 62k kms.

Please advise a replacement - am thinking of Amaron or Tata Green. Please someone suggest the real-life prices. The base Tata Green as per website is for Rs.4000-odd (50k kms maintenance free). I feel this is a bit on the higher side - please advise if this indeed is the price range for good batteries in Delhi and what will be the net cost after exchange.

whitemm550 · 16th February 2010, 18:42

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Originally Posted by HotChillyPepper

Just called up BOSCH dealer in JC road and got a quote of 11K for a BOSCH Silver 100AH battery for my Optra Magnum(With old battery exchange). Is this quote reasonable?

expensive. try Amaron Pitstop

ishotmydog · 17th February 2010, 11:40

the battery on my accent diesel died after 97k Kms, which battery should i look out for?

Raccoon · 17th February 2010, 15:13

^^^Dude, this has been discussed so many times on tbhp. In short, the best brands are - Amaron, Base Terminal/Panasonic, BOSCH.

29th September 2009, 11:37	#139
MuzzledMoose BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: MalluLand Posts: 221 Thanked: 76 Times	Hmm either way the old day maintenance type batteries last for more than 5 years if maintained properly. But that needs religious checking of water level every fortnight. I had a 12v 5AH battery in my KB100 that lasted for 5 years!!!
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29th September 2009, 17:54	#142
Raccoon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Poona Posts: 1,851 Thanked: 116 Times	Ya, but that dosen't mean they manufacture them from scratch...
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29th September 2009, 23:49	#144
Raccoon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Poona Posts: 1,851 Thanked: 116 Times	Crompton Greaves had a battery??
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29th December 2009, 17:07	#146
HotChillyPepper BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bang_a_lore Posts: 663 Thanked: 385 Times View My Garage	Just called up BOSCH dealer in JC road and got a quote of 11K for a BOSCH Silver 100AH battery for my Optra Magnum(With old battery exchange). Is this quote reasonable?
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16th February 2010, 17:43	#147
jessie007 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 801 Thanked: 1,588 Times View My Garage	Battery in my Indigo (Diesel) conked-off today. Had got it checked recently and the mechanic told that one cell was weak, but the car was cranking in the first go, so thought will run for sometime. The battery is a factory fitted Exide and was going to complete 4 years in early March this year. The car has clocked 62k kms. Please advise a replacement - am thinking of Amaron or Tata Green. Please someone suggest the real-life prices. The base Tata Green as per website is for Rs.4000-odd (50k kms maintenance free). I feel this is a bit on the higher side - please advise if this indeed is the price range for good batteries in Delhi and what will be the net cost after exchange. Last edited by jessie007 : 16th February 2010 at 17:46.
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17th February 2010, 11:40	#149
ishotmydog BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pune Posts: 594 Thanked: 19 Times	the battery on my accent diesel died after 97k Kms, which battery should i look out for?
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17th February 2010, 15:13	#150
Raccoon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Poona Posts: 1,851 Thanked: 116 Times	^^^Dude, this has been discussed so many times on tbhp. In short, the best brands are - Amaron, Base Terminal/Panasonic, BOSCH.
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