[RoadBeliever]

Originally Posted by RoadBeliever

Hello Everyone,

I have a Skoda Laura car, just completed 13 years and wanted to keep it for 15 years before I submit it for scrapping. As of today, there are no major repairs done, now the AC has become very weak. I do not want to spend a huge amount on the compressor. The AC gas top-up may solve the problem.

Kindly let me know if there is any good and reliable local vendor for AC servicing in Bangalore.

I have taken the help of external shop Aditya Car AC based out of Koramangla Bangalore. The gas has been topped up and got assurance that AC compressor will go for 2-3 more years minimum.

[sunilch]

Originally Posted by Jeroen

Special Notes:
When found in 6-Speed Direct Shift Gearbox (DSG/02E)
, check Measuring Value Blocks (MVB) 008. The Output Shaft Speeds should align with the Input Shaft Speed during a Test Drive (Tiptronic in Gear 1/2) with the Clutch engaged.
According to Skoda Technical Product Information (TPI) 2024152 an updated Clutch Set is available which addresses these issues.
Perform Basic Setting

Thanks to Google, YT and a kind Bhpian (who has lent me his VCDS cable) - I did Basic Settings as per RossTech recommendations.

After Basic Settings, the issue got resolved but temporarily. I did a test drive at odd hours with sparse traffic and the car was moving smoothly from D1 all the way to D6 automatically and everything was fine.

However, as per the recommendations in the guide, I did hard braking once and then fast acceleration. This is when the issue came up again. Not moving from D3 to D4 automatically. If I force it with high revs, it will go into limp mode.

Now, I have two thoughts here:

1) As per RossTech wiki - Clutch set might need replacement. One FNGs have recommended the same. This is reasonably costly affair.

2) According to a couple of other FNGs, There is some issue with the Mechatronix unit and that needs replacement (fully) which is a very expensive affair. New units are 2x of the cost of the car (14 years old now) and refurbished units are not guaranteed to solve the issue for long-term.

Confused at this juncture to decide on which path to take.

[vinodh_eee]

Originally Posted by vinodh_eee

I got a prelim quote after diagnosis. It seems there is a leakage near the Thermostat. This was suspected by the FNG as well, prior to giving to Skoda ASS. They are quoting 47K for Thermostat. It sounded too expensive. Online price are all under 8K. Any idea why a thermostat could be so expensive.

Attachment 2648119

Cross-posting from another thread. 47K for a thermostat sounds exorbitant. Did anyone replace it recently? What was the approx cost?

Background: Coolant was leaking near the thermostat region.

[sunilch]

Originally Posted by vinodh_eee

Cross-posting from another thread. 47K for a thermostat sounds exorbitant. Did anyone replace it recently? What was the approx cost?

Background: Coolant was leaking near the thermostat region.

Attachment 2648120

I have the same problem as you right now and it is yet to be diagnosed. I will have the car checked in coming days. My coolant gets exhausted only when I drive with the AC on. If I drive without the AC, it works fine. The car works fine.

However, to your query - I do not visit Skoda ASS as I bought the car used recently only as a weekend drive and as a 2nd car. I get my things fixed only at FNG. I have personally covered over 13K ever since buying the car. I was a wonderful experience until recently when I started getting issues in the car.

Quotes given by Skoda to you seem very unreasonable

Why do I see the Timing Cover there?
What Child Parts (assuming that is the correct word here) are they referring to?
Why do we have Coolant (Qty 6) and Coolant Flushing (Qty 5L in two rows?
Why is the container to be replaced? (though it doesn't seem to be very costly here)

Not to forget, if indeed you have this fixed at Skoda ASS, they for sure will open another list of items to fix/replace when they open the car.

[vishy76]

Originally Posted by vinodh_eee

Cross-posting from another thread. 47K for a thermostat sounds exorbitant. Did anyone replace it recently? What was the approx cost?

Background: Coolant was leaking near the thermostat region.

Attachment 2648120

Whichever ASC has done this has tried to rip you off clean.

The OE Skoda water pump on boodmo costs 20k for the 1.8 TSI.

The pump for the Octavia Mk3 1.8 TSI OTOH is expensive because it has an electronic thermostat integrated with it (the entire thing is called the thermal module or something). That costs around 48k.

Aftermarket ones like Vika in fact start at 4k and even reputed ones like INA/Schaeffler won't be more than 10-12k.





There is a slim chance that part cost has gone up. However, even then, I genuinely doubt if it would have more than doubled.

[vinodh_eee]

Originally Posted by sunilch

I have the same problem as you right now and it is yet to be diagnosed. I will have the car checked in coming days. My coolant gets exhausted only when I drive with the AC on. If I drive without the AC, it works fine. The car works fine.

Quotes given by Skoda to you seem very unreasonable

Why do I see the Timing Cover there?
What Child Parts (assuming that is the correct word here) are they referring to?
Why do we have Coolant (Qty 6) and Coolant Flushing (Qty 5L in two rows?
Why is the container to be replaced? (though it doesn't seem to be very costly here)

Not to forget, if indeed you have this fixed at Skoda ASS, they for sure will open another list of items to fix/replace when they open the car.

Originally Posted by vishy76

Whichever ASC has done this has tried to rip you off clean.

The OE Skoda water pump on boodmo costs 20k for the 1.8 TSI.

The pump for the Octavia Mk3 1.8 TSI OTOH is expensive because it has an electronic thermostat integrated with it (the entire thing is called the thermal module or something). That costs around 48k.

Aftermarket ones like Vika in fact start at 4k and even reputed ones like INA/Schaeffler won't be more than 10-12k.

There is a slim chance that part cost has gone up. However, even then, I genuinely doubt if it would have more than doubled.

Thanks sunilch and vishy76. I ran out of coolant on the way to Hyderabad from Bangalore. I reached Hyderabad by filling RO water and distilled water. Hence coolant flush is needed. I am yet to ask the SA about the timing cover, coolant tank etc., because I wanted to figure out the thermostat part first. I have asked him for the exact part number and pictures. It doesn't help that I am in a different city and they know it. It doesn't make sense to spend > 1L for a 2011 car. I am considering transporting the car to Bangalore and give to my FNG here. I hope it is an honest mistake mixing up the part numbers on their part.

[MileCruncher]

Originally Posted by vinodh_eee

Thanks sunilch and vishy76. I ran out of coolant on the way to Hyderabad from Bangalore. I reached Hyderabad by filling RO water and distilled water. Hence coolant flush is needed. I am yet to ask the SA about the timing cover, coolant tank etc., because I wanted to figure out the thermostat part first. I have asked him for the exact part number and pictures. It doesn't help that I am in a different city and they know it. It doesn't make sense to spend > 1L for a 2011 car. I am considering transporting the car to Bangalore and give to my FNG here. I hope it is an honest mistake mixing up the part numbers on their part.

In Hyderabad, try New Mars for getting your car fixed. - https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/other...hyderabad.html (Independent garage : New Mars (Kukatpally, Hyderabad))

[vinodh_eee]

Update: the part to be replaced is 06H 121 026 DS. This is the complete water pump, thermostat and some seals. Originally I thought the quoted cost is only for the thermostat. Anyway I have asked the SA if they can just replace the thermostat and plug the leak temporarily. That would enable me to take the car back to Bangalore. The car is in Mahavir Skoda ASS.

[RoadBeliever]

The clutch on my Skoda Laura has entirely failed. I have contacted Carmed Bangalore for a quote regarding the complete replacement of the clutch system and an overhaul of the front suspension. The estimate provided was quite similar to that of the skoda dealership. Nevertheless, I decided to proceed with their services due to their reputation for honesty and the transparency they offer regarding the repairs being conducted. I will share a detailed breakdown of the costs and my review once the car is returned in a few days.

[sunilch]

Originally Posted by RoadBeliever

The clutch on my Skoda Laura has entirely failed. I have contacted Carmed Bangalore for a quote regarding the complete replacement of the clutch system and an overhaul of the front suspension. The estimate provided was quite similar to that of the skoda dealership. Nevertheless, I decided to proceed with their services due to their reputation for honesty and the transparency they offer regarding the repairs being conducted. I will share a detailed breakdown of the costs and my review once the car is returned in a few days.

Would be helpful if you share more details of the car and the condition. Age, Variant, ODO reading, any other symptoms or complications that you noticed?

[RoadBeliever]

The Skoda Laura Petrol TSI Ambition model is over 13 years old and currently has an odometer reading of more than 71,000 kilometers. Although I considered scrapping the vehicle in favor of a new one, personal circumstances led me to the decision to retain it for an additional 3 to 4 years. I began repairs on the ABS sensor on September 14th. The sensor has since been replaced, and the error light is now off.

After leaving the workshop and traveling only 200 meters, the clutch failed completely, necessitating that the car be towed back to the workshop. Given that both the clutch and front suspension had been weakening for the past 10,000 kilometers, I opted to fully replace the clutch system and overhaul the front suspension. This will be the first significant repair required for the vehicle in its 13-year history, aside from regular servicing and minor niggles

Included with this message are the pricing details and a few images.

I retrieved the car on September 30th after two weeks, and I've noticed it feels more stable on the road. The clutch has also become more precise, allowing me to confidently navigate steep inclines like parking ramps.

ABS Sensor Bill Payment 14Sep24.pdf

[sunilch]

I now have an odd problem to diagnose.

The car usually needs 2 cranks to start. All lights come up properly when I insert the key. The first twist of the key does nothing. The second twist starts it properly. Once the car is warm (after a short drive), this doesn't happen again. But this happens every-time I start the car after a few hours (say after overnight parking).

Battery is only 13 months old and all other functions are working properly.

This has had been the case for a couple of months now. My driving is not daily but this issues happens every-day now. This isn't dependent on the season or time of the day.

Now, today I did notice another issue. If I run the car with AC on (works perfectly), phone on charing and music playing (radio or via AUX), for a while (say about 20-30 Kms) the horn goes weak, indicating drained battery.

If I switch off the AC and phone charging, the horn gets back to normal after 5-10 mins.

So what could be the problem here? Battery? Alternator? Starter Motor?

Not yet shown to the FNG, but would visit them in few days. Car is now 14 years old, has run about 1.03L Kms. During last service (in June-July this year) I asked FNG and a couple of folks to check the Alternator for any service that it may need. Everyone advised to not to touch it since it is working as expected. Their idea is simple, replace it when it breaks. Otherwise let it be. I am wondering if I should get the alternator serviced at an electrical shop in my next planned car major service? Or is it just paranoia?

[Bsilver]

Originally Posted by sunilch;5867297



So what could be the problem here?

[B

Battery? Alternator? Starter Motor? [/b]

Check voltage after turning on all electricals, it should return 14.2V or greater than 14 at least. If not returning then the alternator is at fault, and you may have to inspect the alternator. If it is returning 14.2 V then nothing to worry about the alternator. Check if the terminals and leads are free of any debris, if they are clean them, and reinstall in the correct manner.

If you have done all of this, then looks like there is some other problem with the vehicle and needs further diagnosis. One of the concerns is that, when you are starting it after a long time, the pressure in the fuel lines is dropped due to the halt, when you are trying to crank, your fuel pump is not generating enough pressure at the first crank, to fuel the engine, and hence not starting. If you halt for lesser time, the pressure in the fuel lines has not dropped much, and the pump, even if compromised, still is generating sufficient + the delta of the pressure before stop to fuel the engine. This indicates a weak fuel pump. In order to check this, any competent FNG with a scanner needs to access the fuel system, and check whether the requested value is being delivered by the fuel pump, if not, then change out the fuel pump, as it has gone weak after years of usage. If not, then there are other ways, once you try this out, post the results here.

Happy Motoring!

[RoadBeliever]

Post deleted by the Team-BHP Support: The use of AI / ChatGPT is strictly prohibited on Team-BHP. Do NOT use AI / ChatGPT to compose your posts, or even enhance the language of your written material.

On Team-BHP, we take pride in our original thoughts, opinions & content. Kindly type out only your own ideas, comments & language.*Do not use AI software to even rewrite your post or tweak its language.

We strongly advise you to visit our forum rules section again.

[Bsilver]

Originally Posted by RoadBeliever

Their pricing for parts and services is competitive with that of authorized service centers, yet the clarity they provide regarding the necessary work needed on your vehicle is outstanding, ultimately saving both time and money.

Looks a little doubtful. Not against/criticizing anyone, but the pricing is on par with the ASS. I am their regular customer for many years, but recently I have a feeling that the prices have become too steep. You have paid around 8600 for the overhaul of clutch, and its MC/SC, which in my opinion is almost very close to ASS. Gearbox R&R is a part of the overhaul, and again charging for the MC/SC is again not good. Anyways it is a personal opinion, and one may draw there own conclusions. My personal one is, if it is a BMW/Audi/Merc or any other luxury segment vehicle, one may visit them as they are comparatively lower priced, but if it is a Skoda/VW, they are on par, with the pricing, which makes me think as to why not get it done at the ASS, along with the service records. ASS doing a good job is a separate thing to argue, but regarding the pricing this is what I feel.

Happy Motoring!