[jinojohnt]

Got my Alto Lxi serviced (1 year, 3rd service, 10000 km) yesterday. Used the dealer's oil filter, but bought Mobil 1 (5w50) 3 litres from outside. Initial feeling is good. Less sound, Revs smoother. Owner's manual recommends changing engine oil every 10000 km only, do I need to change every 5000 km?

[gpa]

Originally Posted by jinojohnt

Got my Alto Lxi serviced (1 year, 3rd service, 10000 km) yesterday. Used the dealer's oil filter, but bought Mobil 1 (5w50) 3 litres from outside. Initial feeling is good. Less sound, Revs smoother. Owner's manual recommends changing engine oil every 10000 km only, do I need to change every 5000 km?

jino,

You don't have to change the Mobil 1 every 5,000 kms. A change every 10k kms is fine.

I also used Mobil 1 fully synth oil for the past 10k kms and honestly, I was not satisfied with its performance after using it for 8,000 kms.

I drive extensively about 2,000 kms a month and hence decided to stick to a good brand of mineral oil and change that every 5,000 kms instead.

Regards,
gpa

[sandys]

Found a 3l can of BP Mak Elite for 680 around, finally. Dunno why, but found it very difficult to locate it.
Engine is much smoother now.

[HIGHNOON]

The situation is no different for other oil manufacturing co. as far as India is concerned.
Shell recently launched the Helix HX range ( though not updated on their official site ). Now the Helix HX7 15W-40 has specified API - CF in Australia but seems to be exceeding that in India.
Is it possible ?
Or everybody takes liberties as far as QC & industry standards are concerned in India ?
And castrol is way too overpriced and still sells .
Tata recommended GTD is probly one of the worst oils available for Diesel 475 IDI engines , but just check the advertisements and the tall claims of
detergents , longest drain intervals , cooling effects and what not.
I found HP milcy range relatively much better for both Diesel & petrol Indigos.
And an oil called ELF SPORTI. Very good and relatively in expensive for my petrol Accent.
Have used Magnatec in Indica NA , Maruti 800 and also the Accent P , seems like a nice 'light' oil , but surely cant exceed the specified drain interval of 6 months / 5000 km . Its not at all good for 10000km in my experience.
have used Valvoline Durablend 10 w-40 ( OR 10W -50 CANT RECOLLECT EXACTLY ), used to cost about the same as Magnatec and is also a synthetic blend better than Magnatec. But didnt do well in the market and due to obvious reasons .

[HIGHNOON]

Also a question is when a co. say Accent 2002 specifies an engine oil meeting or exceeding API -SG/CD rating. With changes and improvements in technology , whether one should stick to an oil with reqd. spec. or put in something as new as one meeting API -SM ?
I mean to say , can an engine oil manufactured for a super charged / turbocharged modern day gasolene engine maybe euro -IV ready contain any additive which may be harmful to an older generation engine ?
Also a car which is running exclusively at high speed overdrive on an express highway for 4 hrs. everyday doing say 250 km should be fed the same oil which is used for vehicles which are constantly doing duty in constant stop gap traffic of a metro , with constant idling travelling very short distances of say 70 km?

[HIGHNOON]

Originally Posted by sgiitk

In addition to distance take a look at the time interval as well. I work on 1 year / 10,000km (whichever is earlier) on all my mounts. In UK they talk of 10,000 miles so 12,000km may be Ok, but look at the calender as well.

i thought they specify 6 months / 10000km on account of traffic conditions , ambient temperature and dusty roads in India for both Accent & santro.
i am sticking with the 5000 /6000 km deadline myself on the accent though i usually clock that in about 3 / 4 months and 5000 km for the diesel Indigo.

[thelightening]

As per the WagonR manual, for my 2008 model WagonR VXI I should use only the oils with API - SF/SG/SH, but when I checked Castrol Magnatec 10W40 I saw API-SM there. Is there any issue if I use Magnatec in my WagonR?

[DRIV3R]

Originally Posted by thelightening

As per the WagonR manual, for my 2008 model WagonR VXI I should use only the oils with API - SF/SG/SH, but when I checked Castrol Magnatec 10W40 I saw API-SM there. Is there any issue if I use Magnatec in my WagonR?

API SM is a higher grade rating than API SF/SG/SH and hence you can go ahead and use Magnatec . A API SM rated oil is said to provide full protection and better heat characteristics than the lower SF/SG/SH/SL.

[thelightening]

My WagonR is running on Castrol Magnatec, I find no major changes but the engine has become bit more smooth. Hope Castrol Edge ( fully Synthetic) will do wonders

[sgiitk]

Let me repeat a few things since this is a fresh thread. As per API specifications the only current specs are API-SJ, SL and SM. Rest are obsolete.

All oils since API-SF are capable of 10,000km/miles/1 year life. So once the warranty is over you can go 10,000km/once a year with impunity. I did it with my Esteem which after I sold it had done over 425,000km when the next owner resold it. My Accent which I sold last month had done over 55,000km with no ill effects.

Oil grades are mmWnn. mm can be anything while nn should be equal to or higher than what is specified. mmW is the viscosity of cold oil, and is a measure of how quickly it circulates, and ease of starting. nn is what decides the viscosity of the hot oil. If too low you risk film breakage, metal rubbing metal and ....

Look more at the API rating, and not at the sales talk!

[drvhplyevraftr]

Originally Posted by thelightening

My WagonR is running on Castrol Magnatec, I find no major changes but the engine has become bit more smooth. Hope Castrol Edge ( fully Synthetic) will do wonders

What I say might sound odd - I had been using Castrol Edge in my Getz(fully synthetic) for the last 2 years and did not find VFM for my usage so
the last service I switched to Magnatec and I feel that my car seems to be much smoother and responsive now than what it was when running on Edge.

The last service was just a regular service and I did not do any major change/service that could have resulted in my car becoming more smoother and responsive.

[mdesai_1981]

hi guys i am posting this question on behalf of my friend. he has got 2008 new shape honda accord. now he was once cheated by the honda A.S.S. people so he wants to go for a service with my mechanic. i found out from honda A.S.S. that they use 0W-30 fully sythetic engine oil(factory fill) in honda accord.
unfortunately this grade oil was not available with city motors mumbai.they suggested 5w-50 or 0w-40.
now he has got 0W-40 mobil 1 from them . do you people think he should go for 0w40 or he should go for 5w40(which is my recommendation).
he is still not opened the can so he can exchange it.
please guys let me know what you feel?

[thelightening]

Originally Posted by mdesai_1981

hi guys i am posting this question on behalf of my friend. he has got 2008 new shape honda accord. now he was once cheated by the honda A.S.S. people so he wants to go for a service with my mechanic. i found out from honda A.S.S. that they use 0W-30 fully sythetic engine oil(factory fill) in honda accord.
unfortunately this grade oil was not available with city motors mumbai.they suggested 5w-50 or 0w-40.
now he has got 0W-40 mobil 1 from them . do you people think he should go for 0w40 or he should go for 5w40(which is my recommendation).
he is still not opened the can so he can exchange it.
please guys let me know what you feel?

Hope this can help you more. Car Bibles : The Engine Oil Bible

[Gandhi]

My Ritz ZXi is due for 3rd service. The car has clocked 8000 KMs so far. What engine oil should I use now? I'm sure the service guys at the MASS would push for synthetic oil, but is it really necessary? I read good reviews about Castrol Magnatec. How do I know what engine oil and oil filter the service guys use?

Please help.

[Raccoon]

^^^MASS would be using their MGP filters, which I believe are made by Purolator. To make sure you can check out the filter that they remove and the one that they put in. Of course you will need to be present when they do it, to know for sure.

MASS is pushing synthetic oil for Ritz?? Well, I don't know if they are recommending only synth oil for Ritz, but if you are planning to go for Castrol Magnatec, I'd urge you to consider other equally good/better/cheaper brands like Petronas, Valvoline Dura Blend, Shell, Mobil, etc.