Engine Oil- Castrol Magnatec..for Swift, Opel??

mdesai_1981 · 5th July 2009, 04:45

hi guys i have a small problem i have a NHC and am about to go for the 10000km oil change.
i plan to go for fully synthetic engine oil and am enquiring about the same with my honda dealer they say that as of now honda recommends 10w-30 idemtsui engine oil.
but if i want i can put 5w-40 or sorts but not 5w-50.
here the problem arises in bom 0w-40 mobil is easily available. can i put this in my car? the mobil dealer says it will be perfect for NHC and is the best oil available.
please guys i'm very confused.
nitrous- they said no for 5w-50 as they say the oil pump might malfunction as honda is using 10w-30.

cyclops · 22nd July 2009, 20:05

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Originally Posted by indivic

Caltex: Cars

The product is Havoline Energy 5W-30 apparently fully synthetic and MRP is Rs.1184/- for 4 L can, distributor price would probably be inline with what Raccoon has posted.

I picked up Chevron Delo 15W-40 (5l+1l) meets/exceeds API CH-4 for Rs.1068/- y'day from a distributor. Chevron representatives are really prompt in replying to queries for information.

Hey guys, did you get the products and tried it? How was the performance noted?

cyclops · 27th July 2009, 16:00

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Originally Posted by indivic

Caltex: Cars

The product is Havoline Energy 5W-30 apparently fully synthetic and MRP is Rs.1184/- for 4 L can, distributor price would probably be inline with what Raccoon has posted.

I picked up Chevron Delo 15W-40 (5l+1l) meets/exceeds API CH-4 for Rs.1068/- y'day from a distributor. Chevron representatives are really prompt in replying to queries for information.

I had contacted the Chevron guys. As per him, Havoline Energy is not fully synthetic, its semi-synth. But my worry is about its rating, Is 5W-30 suitable for Indian climate and on a smaller engine (Alto)???

Any advice on this? Should I go ahead and try it out? Will it cause any harm to the engine? Also, what is the engine oil capacity of Alto? The can is available only in 4 ltrs.

Raccoon · 27th July 2009, 17:59

Maruti is now recommending 5W30 for SX4 etc... but I don't think its recommended for Alto. Just double check with the chart in your manual. I'd suggest you not use it unless its explicitly recommended... not in Pune kinda climate at any rate!

hillram · 27th July 2009, 19:40

Has any one tried using Mobil 1 Synthetic Engine oil? Please share your experiances on your cars?

mail4ajo · 27th July 2009, 19:55

After reading some reviews, I went for Magnatec. 2.7 litres for Alto. Approx Rs 950. Feel some difference, but not a completely new world feeling. Feels like its reving better and smoother, thats all I could notice.

My query is, can I prolong the drain period to 12000kms as claimed. The drain cycle is normally 10000kms for the Alto.

Raccoon · 27th July 2009, 20:00

12,000 km is claimed by who??

Suggest you stick to your usual drain period.

mail4ajo · 28th July 2009, 19:23

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Originally Posted by Raccoon

12,000 km is claimed by who??

Suggest you stick to your usual drain period.

Sorry, the claim was not from the forum. General internet reviews. Ok, will stick to the drain cycle.

So if the drain cycle cant be advanced, what else are the benefits apart from a smoother sounding engine?

R2D2 · 28th July 2009, 21:18

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Originally Posted by mail4ajo

So if the drain cycle cant be advanced, what else are the benefits apart from a smoother sounding engine?

How about longer engine life & possibly better fuel efficiency? Engine oil is critical to both.

Rgds,

Raccoon · 29th July 2009, 00:39

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Originally Posted by mail4ajo

Sorry, the claim was not from the forum. General internet reviews. Ok, will stick to the drain cycle.

So if the drain cycle cant be advanced, what else are the benefits apart from a smoother sounding engine?

Magnatec is not ment for extended use. Just stick to the recommended drain cycle.

The benifit that Castrol claims is that it protects your engine at start up. There are many reports that claim that this is not true in the sense that it protects about as much as any other oil of the same grade... esp. a semi-synthetic (maybe not even that). Besides this, there is no known benifit. If you are expecting more, you have gotten carried off by Castrol's crafty marketing hype.

IMO, it is overpriced, like most Castrol products.

SLK · 29th July 2009, 00:52

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Originally Posted by hillram

Has any one tried using Mobil 1 Synthetic Engine oil? Please share your experiances on your cars?

I think, I already did somewhere. Maybe can update now.

My wagonR has done close to 2.5k with Mobil 1.

you do feel some difference initially, but it tends to get better after some kms, more than 15-20 days in my case i.e. 1200kms or so.

Is it better? YES.

How? free revving, less sound.

Will it be better for everyone/everycar? Can't say, as it depends on how much you notice such "feel good" differences. It's probably like 15-30% more free revving, some might not even notice that. WagonR would not become a swift with this Oil.

sgiitk · 29th July 2009, 11:35

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Originally Posted by mail4ajo

My query is, can I prolong the drain period to 12000kms as claimed. The drain cycle is normally 10000kms for the Alto.

In addition to distance take a look at the time interval as well. I work on 1 year / 10,000km (whichever is earlier) on all my mounts. In UK they talk of 10,000 miles so 12,000km may be Ok, but look at the calender as well.

nitrous · 29th July 2009, 13:22

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Originally Posted by mail4ajo

Sorry, the claim was not from the forum. General internet reviews. Ok, will stick to the drain cycle.

So if the drain cycle cant be advanced, what else are the benefits apart from a smoother sounding engine?

The benefit is cold-start protection with these HC (Hydro-cracked) oil aka semi-synthetic.
They'll work at optimum far sooner than mineral oil.

Raccoon · 29th July 2009, 16:30

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Originally Posted by nitrous

The benefit is cold-start protection with these HC (Hydro-cracked) oil aka semi-synthetic.
They'll work at optimum far sooner than mineral oil.

Hydro-cracked oil is technically not semi-synth though legally it is. As end users, the technical aspect is far more important. Castrol could claim that its semi-synthetic due to the ester content in Magnatec. But how much of it do they add? Nobody knows and Castrol isn't telling. It can even be less than 1%, just to qualify for that tag.

So you can't really say for sure that Magnatec even gives the benifits of a decent semi-synth...

nitrous · 29th July 2009, 21:33

^^ Used it plenty of times in my previous car. Have felt a significant difference.
Magnatec is real VFM compared to "exotic" potions. I'll ask Narayan to post his experience with the magnatec 10W40.

5th July 2009, 04:45	#121
mdesai_1981 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 188 Thanked: 29 Times View My Garage	hi guys i have a small problem i have a NHC and am about to go for the 10000km oil change. i plan to go for fully synthetic engine oil and am enquiring about the same with my honda dealer they say that as of now honda recommends 10w-30 idemtsui engine oil. but if i want i can put 5w-40 or sorts but not 5w-50. here the problem arises in bom 0w-40 mobil is easily available. can i put this in my car? the mobil dealer says it will be perfect for NHC and is the best oil available. please guys i'm very confused. nitrous- they said no for 5w-50 as they say the oil pump might malfunction as honda is using 10w-30.
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27th July 2009, 17:59	#124
Raccoon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Poona Posts: 1,851 Thanked: 116 Times	Maruti is now recommending 5W30 for SX4 etc... but I don't think its recommended for Alto. Just double check with the chart in your manual. I'd suggest you not use it unless its explicitly recommended... not in Pune kinda climate at any rate!
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27th July 2009, 19:40	#125
hillram Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 2,941 Thanked: 1,329 Times View My Garage	Has any one tried using Mobil 1 Synthetic Engine oil? Please share your experiances on your cars?
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27th July 2009, 19:55	#126
mail4ajo Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 1,959 Thanked: 337 Times View My Garage	After reading some reviews, I went for Magnatec. 2.7 litres for Alto. Approx Rs 950. Feel some difference, but not a completely new world feeling. Feels like its reving better and smoother, thats all I could notice. My query is, can I prolong the drain period to 12000kms as claimed. The drain cycle is normally 10000kms for the Alto. Last edited by mail4ajo : 27th July 2009 at 20:04.
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27th July 2009, 20:00	#127
Raccoon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Poona Posts: 1,851 Thanked: 116 Times	12,000 km is claimed by who?? Suggest you stick to your usual drain period.
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29th July 2009, 21:33	#135
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 333 Times View My Garage	^^ Used it plenty of times in my previous car. Have felt a significant difference. Magnatec is real VFM compared to "exotic" potions. I'll ask Narayan to post his experience with the magnatec 10W40.
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