Honda Civic : Maintenance, Service Costs and Must dos

lalitk25 · 22nd November 2010, 10:43

Since last 2-3 moths I was facing a problem of horn going off automatically and coming back without doing anything.
I had once checked it with pearl Honda sector 63 noida and there for 20-30 min problem didn’t come so they suggested keeping it as it for some time, and then I went out of india for some time.
After coming back the problem got worse and then I took the car to showroom again..... But again horn was working smoothly this time as well in the showroom.... luckily this time after trying 10-15 min it suddenly went off

I was relieved and then I asked them to replace this in extended warranty. My warranty is expiring on Feb. 2011 and km on odometer is 36600. Without any fuss they inspected the steering for a possible carbon deposit and checked, everything was ok including fuse box so the technical guy agreed to replace the horns.
Both low and high tone horns were replaced FOC and problem is resolved.....

I was very happy with the reception I got from pearl Honda and they did all this without any fuss..
Total cost of both horns is roughly 1200 INR....

In the end a happy Honda Customer......

hiren.mistry · 23rd November 2010, 11:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by lalitk25

I was very happy with the reception I got from pearl Honda and they did all this without any fuss..
Total cost of both horns is roughly 1200 INR....

In the end a happy Honda Customer......

Superb. Alls well that ends well. I might be heading to H.A.S.S to get my horn changed but my car does not have any extended warranty.

rr_zen · 23rd November 2010, 13:18

Looks like it is now becoming a common problem on the Civics. Add me to the list. The problem I am facing is that when I honk continuously (horn depressed throughout), the sound seems to fade and the loudness of the horn is lost. This is more pronounced when I apply the brakes at the same time. Any thoughts/suggestions before I proceed to the A.S.S?

lalitk25 · 23rd November 2010, 14:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by rr_zen

Looks like it is now becoming a common problem on the Civics. Add me to the list. The problem I am facing is that when I honk continuously (horn depressed throughout), the sound seems to fade and the loudness of the horn is lost. This is more pronounced when I apply the brakes at the same time. Any thoughts/suggestions before I proceed to the A.S.S?

Get it checked with A.S.S., may be loose connection or some horn tunning issue.

spadix · 23rd November 2010, 17:32

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Originally Posted by rr_zen

Looks like it is now becoming a common problem on the Civics. Add me to the list. The problem I am facing is that when I honk continuously (horn depressed throughout), the sound seems to fade and the loudness of the horn is lost. This is more pronounced when I apply the brakes at the same time. Any thoughts/suggestions before I proceed to the A.S.S?

And I thought it was just me! So there's this too in addition to the occasional loose contact thing.

@Hiren: Were you referring to this problem? Horn starting off with one intensity/tone but then going down during the course of its functioning? I thought you said the issue was something else - the horn sounding wrong all the time.

Regards,
spadix

hiren.mistry · 24th November 2010, 09:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by spadix

@Hiren: Were you referring to this problem? Horn starting off with one intensity/tone but then going down during the course of its functioning? I thought you said the issue was something else - the horn sounding wrong all the time.

Regards,
spadix

No my problem is slightly different. It seems to have a permanent sore throat, if I can call it that. The tone does not change it remains hoarse throughout.

mukeshgoel · 26th November 2010, 14:42

Got 45k Service done yesterday.

I was pleasantly surprised when I thought, thought and again thought but could not think of any problem which I could tell SA to fix (not even any small rattle).

My car is 4 years and 4 months and 47k kms old .

Total bill 993/-. (Rs.900 for service + Service Tax).

spadix · 26th November 2010, 19:12

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Originally Posted by mukeshgoel

I was pleasantly surprised when I thought, thought and again thought but could not think of any problem which I could tell SA to fix (not even any small rattle).

That's wonderful, man! Good for you!

Here's the statistics for my Civic -

1st service (1 month/1066.6 kms) - 4 problems reported - 4 reproduced - 4 fixed (1 recurred)
2nd service (3 months/5054.1 kms) - 11 reported - 6 reproduced (4 non-issues, 1 fell through the cracks) - 6 fixed (2 recurred)
3rd service (due end of Jan. @10k kms) - 9 problems and counting so far

Regards,
spadix

sgiitk · 26th November 2010, 21:26

Just had the third service. Provided my own Mobil1. They were reluctant but then took it in. Cost of service Rs.296 (+of course 4400 for Mobil1 0W40). As commented upon by a colleague cheaper than almost everybody else.

manim · 26th November 2010, 23:21

Booked the date (next week) for my 75K service.
Car is still silky smooth!

hiren.mistry · 27th November 2010, 23:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by mukeshgoel

Got 45k Service done yesterday.

I was pleasantly surprised when I thought, thought and again thought but could not think of any problem which I could tell SA to fix (not even any small rattle).

My car is 4 years and 4 months and 47k kms old .

Total bill 993/-. (Rs.900 for service + Service Tax).

Got only one word. Awesome!

Quote:

Originally Posted by spadix

That's wonderful, man! Good for you!

Here's the statistics for my Civic -

1st service (1 month/1066.6 kms) - 4 problems reported - 4 reproduced - 4 fixed (1 recurred)
2nd service (3 months/5054.1 kms) - 11 reported - 6 reproduced (4 non-issues, 1 fell through the cracks) - 6 fixed (2 recurred)
3rd service (due end of Jan. @10k kms) - 9 problems and counting so far

Regards,
spadix

Seriously; 11 problems, 9 problems

What would they be?

I have only 1 problem and thats enough for me to overlook everything else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sgiitk

Just had the third service. Provided my own Mobil1. They were reluctant but then took it in. Cost of service Rs.296 (+of course 4400 for Mobil1 0W40). As commented upon by a colleague cheaper than almost everybody else.

Pleasantly surprised that Honda agreed to use Mobil1 instead of their own oil, I am dying to try Mobil1 on me car. I've never understood the oil rating mumbo jumbo but would 0W40 work in our climes?

Thanks

laluks · 28th November 2010, 11:22

Shoe chaged some months ago. The OEM Good Year NCT5 did a 60K.

Chose Good Year Excellence assymetrical this time. 3k done, runs just the way I want.

sgiitk · 28th November 2010, 11:43

@hiren.mistry: See the manual, both 0W40 and 0W30 are Ok. US specs are 0W20! Idemitsu (Honda OE) is 0W30. In your case it is out of warranty so they cannot crib. As the engine is made to a finer tolerance 0W30 also looks fine to me. Theoretically, SAE30 should be marginally more economical that SAE40!

They were reluctant but I told them the oil meets/exceeds their specs which are only for API-SL, and both 0W30 and 0W40 are kosher. So they had to agree. Had me write that I am providing my own oil, andc I wrote in '4L of Mobil1 API-SM, SAE0W40 Synthetic provided by me'.

Seems that the car companies suspect dealers of buying oil outside if they do not see about 80%+ cars using their own oil. The SM did say that they are worried with people bringing in oil of lower specs. With all Honda engines revving to 6500+ I can see the need for good oil.

hiren.mistry · 28th November 2010, 18:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by laluks

Shoe chaged some months ago. The OEM Good Year NCT5 did a 60K.

Chose Good Year Excellence assymetrical this time. 3k done, runs just the way I want.

60K is a lot, good on you!
Can you tell us more about your new tires? Stock size or did you upsize?
NCT5 were notorious for road noise, how do Excellence compare?

Quote:

Originally Posted by sgiitk

@hiren.mistry: See the manual, both 0W40 and 0W30 are Ok. US specs are 0W20! Idemitsu (Honda OE) is 0W30. In your case it is out of warranty so they cannot crib. As the engine is made to a finer tolerance 0W30 also looks fine to me. Theoretically, SAE30 should be marginally more economical that SAE40!

They were reluctant but I told them the oil meets/exceeds their specs which are only for API-SL, and both 0W30 and 0W40 are kosher. So they had to agree. Had me write that I am providing my own oil, andc I wrote in '4L of Mobil1 API-SM, SAE0W40 Synthetic provided by me'.

Seems that the car companies suspect dealers of buying oil outside if they do not see about 80%+ cars using their own oil. The SM did say that they are worried with people bringing in oil of lower specs. With all Honda engines revving to 6500+ I can see the need for good oil.

Excellent information. Thank you kind sir!
I will change my cars oil early next year, the current Idemitsu Oil has done around 3K. I will change around the 5K mark.

Regards

sgiitk · 28th November 2010, 19:14

@hiren.mistry: I always feel that a good API-SL or higher (in fact SF or higher!) is good for 10,000km / 12 months. So you should be able to stretch your oil changes significantly. Once out of warranty this is what I will do and have been doing for the past 21 years or so. Never regretted it. This was in my Peugeot 205GL, 118NE, Esteem (carb), Zens (both carb), Accent, Alto VX and Santro AT.

22nd November 2010, 10:43	#1126
lalitk25 BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria Germany Posts: 190 Thanked: 8 Times	Horn suddenly goes off Since last 2-3 moths I was facing a problem of horn going off automatically and coming back without doing anything. I had once checked it with pearl Honda sector 63 noida and there for 20-30 min problem didn’t come so they suggested keeping it as it for some time, and then I went out of india for some time. After coming back the problem got worse and then I took the car to showroom again..... But again horn was working smoothly this time as well in the showroom.... luckily this time after trying 10-15 min it suddenly went off I was relieved and then I asked them to replace this in extended warranty. My warranty is expiring on Feb. 2011 and km on odometer is 36600. Without any fuss they inspected the steering for a possible carbon deposit and checked, everything was ok including fuse box so the technical guy agreed to replace the horns. Both low and high tone horns were replaced FOC and problem is resolved..... I was very happy with the reception I got from pearl Honda and they did all this without any fuss.. Total cost of both horns is roughly 1200 INR.... In the end a happy Honda Customer...... Last edited by lalitk25 : 22nd November 2010 at 10:45.
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23rd November 2010, 13:18	#1128
rr_zen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 1,810 Thanked: 423 Times View My Garage	Looks like it is now becoming a common problem on the Civics. Add me to the list. The problem I am facing is that when I honk continuously (horn depressed throughout), the sound seems to fade and the loudness of the horn is lost. This is more pronounced when I apply the brakes at the same time. Any thoughts/suggestions before I proceed to the A.S.S?
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26th November 2010, 14:42	#1132
mukeshgoel Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 1,278 Thanked: 2,412 Times View My Garage	Got 45k Service done yesterday. I was pleasantly surprised when I thought, thought and again thought but could not think of any problem which I could tell SA to fix (not even any small rattle). My car is 4 years and 4 months and 47k kms old . Total bill 993/-. (Rs.900 for service + Service Tax).
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26th November 2010, 21:26	#1134
sgiitk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,971 Thanked: 4,809 Times	Just had the third service. Provided my own Mobil1. They were reluctant but then took it in. Cost of service Rs.296 (+of course 4400 for Mobil1 0W40). As commented upon by a colleague cheaper than almost everybody else.
	() Thanks

26th November 2010, 23:21	#1135
manim BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Chennai Posts: 823 Thanked: 925 Times	75k Service next week Booked the date (next week) for my 75K service. Car is still silky smooth!
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28th November 2010, 11:22	#1137
laluks Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 6,551 Thanked: 16,486 Times	Shoe chaged some months ago. The OEM Good Year NCT5 did a 60K. Chose Good Year Excellence assymetrical this time. 3k done, runs just the way I want.
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28th November 2010, 11:43	#1138
sgiitk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,971 Thanked: 4,809 Times	@hiren.mistry: See the manual, both 0W40 and 0W30 are Ok. US specs are 0W20! Idemitsu (Honda OE) is 0W30. In your case it is out of warranty so they cannot crib. As the engine is made to a finer tolerance 0W30 also looks fine to me. Theoretically, SAE30 should be marginally more economical that SAE40! They were reluctant but I told them the oil meets/exceeds their specs which are only for API-SL, and both 0W30 and 0W40 are kosher. So they had to agree. Had me write that I am providing my own oil, andc I wrote in '4L of Mobil1 API-SM, SAE0W40 Synthetic provided by me'. Seems that the car companies suspect dealers of buying oil outside if they do not see about 80%+ cars using their own oil. The SM did say that they are worried with people bringing in oil of lower specs. With all Honda engines revving to 6500+ I can see the need for good oil.
	() Thanks

28th November 2010, 19:14	#1140
sgiitk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,971 Thanked: 4,809 Times	@hiren.mistry: I always feel that a good API-SL or higher (in fact SF or higher!) is good for 10,000km / 12 months. So you should be able to stretch your oil changes significantly. Once out of warranty this is what I will do and have been doing for the past 21 years or so. Never regretted it. This was in my Peugeot 205GL, 118NE, Esteem (carb), Zens (both carb), Accent, Alto VX and Santro AT.
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