OWS Goodies in my baby: A pleasant change

kaushik_s · 15th July 2009, 18:42

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Originally Posted by Jaggu

Leave the filling cap and dip stick open so that air enters easier and allow full and proper drain, wait for 10-15 mts if you can after you open the drain plug, remove and change the filter. Wait for another 5 mts and then put the drain plug back and fill new oil.

Will keep this in mind. Thanks man.

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Originally Posted by HappyWheels

@Kaushik,

And do ensure that the oil is at operating temperature when doing the drain.

You mean to say drive the car for sometime and then get in in showroom and directly drain out? Is it basically to prevent the old oil from getting cooled down and hence stickier?

rjstyles69 · 15th July 2009, 20:04

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Originally Posted by kaushik_s

You mean to say drive the car for sometime and then get in in showroom and directly drain out? Is it basically to prevent the old oil from getting cooled down and hence stickier?

kaushik idle the car for a few mins and occasionally rev' it and do this for about 10-15mins and you are good to go. This is what I did.

theMAG · 15th July 2009, 20:16

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Originally Posted by rjstyles69

..This is what I did.

Thats what you did when you had the car.

HappyWheels · 15th July 2009, 20:23

Yes, you just need to idle for some time before draining.

But incase you are driving to the service center, the oil will be in the optimal temperature and you can get the oil drained, this is unless the car has been stopped, with engine off, for a long time there while you were waiting for someone to attend.

And yes, this is for the old oil from cooling down and getting their regular cold level viscosity.

And an idling and rev'ing for 10+ minutes is required, mostly, only if you are adding an additive and expecting it to mix and clear the internals, else getting the oil hot will ensure that they drain out faster (than in cold state).

rajivanoj · 15th July 2009, 20:24

What is correct capacity of engine oil in lancer diesel, since i dont know the exact volume, my mechanic have poured almost upto his satisfaction.

Though dip stick shows correct mark, i need to know the company specification volume of engine oil.

also i intend to use OWS engine flush in my next service, but mine is old car of 1999 make, which have clocked lakhs of kms, but in some threads i have seen that using flush in old engines will make the engine oil guzzler and the smoothness will go away, since the carbon deposits which were lubricating and filling the gaps will be removed by flush. I desperately need to flush , but this statement make me think again. Any one please throw some light.

I have sent mail to speedworks in their website, but no reply. i dont know where to get the flush in coimbatore. what will be the price of flush and engine protector?

rajivanoj · 16th July 2009, 16:48

Got reply from speedworks J madan. He specified some workshops in coimbatore to get OWS, but will the cost with farhan is less than the coimbatore garage?

srikant · 17th July 2009, 13:04

@rajiv. If you are getting just one or 2 item if the discount is not big you better get it from Coimbatore. You ll have to add the shipping cost from Chenai if you order through Farhan.

Sri

Roy.S · 20th July 2009, 12:13

My experience with OWS 360:
Added the 360 to 20l of petrol. About 10 km later, the car seemed to smoothen out a little. Throttle response improved. However, the benefits seemed to disappear once I had exhausted the 360 + petrol mixture. Although better than before, it does not seem to have had a lasting effect.
Some members have used 2 cans of 360 in succession. Was my fuel system so clogged that 1 can just could not do the job?
Mileage seems to have gone up a bit. During a recent 400 km highway run, I got almost 17kmpl out of my Swift Vxi. Could the Mobil1 have contributed to this?

gpa · 20th July 2009, 12:24

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Originally Posted by Roy.S

During a recent 400 km highway run, I got almost 17kmpl out of my Swift Vxi. Could the Mobil1 have contributed to this?

Roy,

I have also noticed a very marginal increase in my FE in my city runs after the switch to Mobil 1 so I think you can attribute the small increase in FE to Mobil 1. I have not been able to take the car out on a full highway trip since the switch to fully synthetic, so I'm not very certain on the increase in FE on the highways.

Cheers,
gpa

EDIT: Have you noticed an increase in FE in the city?

Roy.S · 20th July 2009, 17:08

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Originally Posted by gpa

Have you noticed an increase in FE in the city?

There definitely has been an increase. Earlier I used to get a consistent 11.5 kmpl in the city. Seems to be just under 12.5 right now. Will measure next week and post.

HappyWheels · 28th July 2009, 11:50

After driving for 800+ Kms after the OWS treatement, the differences I note are:
- good pull in the 3rd gear. It has become better to drive, since frequent gear change is not warranted now
- FE seems to have increased a bit. This is based on level indicator vs the KM's run. But a tank fill will give the right picture.

Apart from that, nothing else. Engine noise is as it was earlier, gear change is also the same.

Since others seems to have got wonders, I am not sure if something was not done properly, or is it that my vehicle has something wrong within it!!!

rkavthekar · 28th July 2009, 13:34

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Originally Posted by rkavthekar

All,

Couple of weeks back, I ordered Vitamin Package + High performance Diesel Engine Oil from Speedworks and here is my experience
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Please note on my last tankful, I got average of 18.35kmpl.

take care and drive safely

Update :- I filled my tank again yesterday after my car run around 500Kms. Engine is smoother and pickup is better than pre treatment. I use to have issues in overtaking, which has lessen to an extent. Engine noise is same and cold start shivers are almost non existent.

Average - 18.03kmpl. So no change in average.

takecare and drive safely

gpa · 28th July 2009, 14:49

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Originally Posted by HappyWheels

Since others seems to have got wonders, I am not sure if something was not done properly, or is it that my vehicle has something wrong within it!!!

It sure is difficult to say in your case. Perhaps you can ask Farhan about it and get his opinion as he would have surely seen such cases before.

Roy.S · 28th July 2009, 16:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by HappyWheels

-good pull in the 3rd gear
-FE seems to have increased a bit.
Apart from that, nothing else. Engine noise is as it was earlier, gear change is also the same.

I too have felt a slight improvement in throttle response and a marked one in FE after 1 can of 360. In a realistic scenario, I think this is as good as it gets. Of course, the slight whining and shuddering from the engine have disappeared, but this is because of the Mobil1 fully synthetic in the crankcase. I don't think 360, being a fuel system cleaner, can really help with these.
Gear change would probably improve with fully synthetic gearbox oil, but at Rs 2100/l I am not going to try this anytime soon.
I am planning to use another can of 360 in my tank shortly as the first does not seem to have done the job completely.

HappyWheels · 28th July 2009, 17:18

^^ Yes Roy, there is a good marked improvement when the 360 was added. Still have the same response. Happy about that.

But for the gear - I had added the OWS gear treatment to the gear oil when I changed it. But not much of help.

I do have some oil leak, enough to wet the casing, but not enough to drip on the floor, so I am sure that is not yet a major issue.

15th July 2009, 20:23	#244
HappyWheels Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 4,145 Thanked: 571 Times	Yes, you just need to idle for some time before draining. But incase you are driving to the service center, the oil will be in the optimal temperature and you can get the oil drained, this is unless the car has been stopped, with engine off, for a long time there while you were waiting for someone to attend. And yes, this is for the old oil from cooling down and getting their regular cold level viscosity. And an idling and rev'ing for 10+ minutes is required, mostly, only if you are adding an additive and expecting it to mix and clear the internals, else getting the oil hot will ensure that they drain out faster (than in cold state).
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15th July 2009, 20:24	#245
rajivanoj BANNED Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Coimbatore Posts: 398 Thanked: 52 Times View My Garage	What is correct capacity of engine oil in lancer diesel, since i dont know the exact volume, my mechanic have poured almost upto his satisfaction. Though dip stick shows correct mark, i need to know the company specification volume of engine oil. also i intend to use OWS engine flush in my next service, but mine is old car of 1999 make, which have clocked lakhs of kms, but in some threads i have seen that using flush in old engines will make the engine oil guzzler and the smoothness will go away, since the carbon deposits which were lubricating and filling the gaps will be removed by flush. I desperately need to flush , but this statement make me think again. Any one please throw some light. I have sent mail to speedworks in their website, but no reply. i dont know where to get the flush in coimbatore. what will be the price of flush and engine protector? Last edited by rajivanoj : 15th July 2009 at 20:28.
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16th July 2009, 16:48	#246
rajivanoj BANNED Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Coimbatore Posts: 398 Thanked: 52 Times View My Garage	Got reply from speedworks J madan. He specified some workshops in coimbatore to get OWS, but will the cost with farhan is less than the coimbatore garage?
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17th July 2009, 13:04	#247
srikant BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 489 Thanked: 12 Times	@rajiv. If you are getting just one or 2 item if the discount is not big you better get it from Coimbatore. You ll have to add the shipping cost from Chenai if you order through Farhan. Sri
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20th July 2009, 12:13	#248
Roy.S BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 808 Thanked: 1,386 Times	My experience with OWS 360: Added the 360 to 20l of petrol. About 10 km later, the car seemed to smoothen out a little. Throttle response improved. However, the benefits seemed to disappear once I had exhausted the 360 + petrol mixture. Although better than before, it does not seem to have had a lasting effect. Some members have used 2 cans of 360 in succession. Was my fuel system so clogged that 1 can just could not do the job? Mileage seems to have gone up a bit. During a recent 400 km highway run, I got almost 17kmpl out of my Swift Vxi. Could the Mobil1 have contributed to this?
	() Thanks

28th July 2009, 11:50	#251
HappyWheels Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 4,145 Thanked: 571 Times	After driving for 800+ Kms after the OWS treatement, the differences I note are: - good pull in the 3rd gear. It has become better to drive, since frequent gear change is not warranted now - FE seems to have increased a bit. This is based on level indicator vs the KM's run. But a tank fill will give the right picture. Apart from that, nothing else. Engine noise is as it was earlier, gear change is also the same. Since others seems to have got wonders, I am not sure if something was not done properly, or is it that my vehicle has something wrong within it!!!
	() Thanks

28th July 2009, 17:18	#255
HappyWheels Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 4,145 Thanked: 571 Times	^^ Yes Roy, there is a good marked improvement when the 360 was added. Still have the same response. Happy about that. But for the gear - I had added the OWS gear treatment to the gear oil when I changed it. But not much of help. I do have some oil leak, enough to wet the casing, but not enough to drip on the floor, so I am sure that is not yet a major issue.
	() Thanks