Know about LPG Conversion....

mail4ajo · 23rd July 2007, 11:07

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Originally Posted by premdiv

But as many of them in this forum pointed out low mileage, is it a risk to switch over to LPG.

No risk about mileage. Like always said earlier, the kit has to be properly installed and serviced. I was getting decent mileage earlier. I thought I will save the CAT with the closed loop. The ECU is not perfectly mapped, hence lower mileage.
I am running without ECU currently and mileage is as before. Will have to rectify ECU map.

biju · 23rd July 2007, 16:52

I am having some doubt regarding the LPG Indicator.

I am getting a mileage of average 16 Km per liter of Gas on my M800 MPFI 1996 model car.

On running, the indicator light varies from High End to Low End. Though I have fully loaded my tank, on running the red light sometime glows for 10 seconds or so and after change that to normal mode.

On normal mode also it sometime varies from 1 to 4.

Can I get some suggestions with regard to this.

nitrous · 23rd July 2007, 17:00

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Originally Posted by biju

M800 MPFI 1996 model car

How come???
MPFI came after 2000 only.

mail4ajo · 23rd July 2007, 17:50

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Originally Posted by nitrous

How come???
MPFI came after 2000 only.

I dont think its 1996 biju. Please recheck.

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Originally Posted by biju

I am having some doubt regarding the LPG Indicator.

Dont worry about the indicator. Its bound to be wrong most times as the indicator fixed will be of low quality. Maybe the float in the tank may have a problem. Check FE on the tank full to empty method.

nitrous · 23rd July 2007, 21:31

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Originally Posted by ajo

Maybe the float in the tank may have a problem

Ajo, Isn't the contents of the LPG tank measured by pressure??

drpullockaran · 23rd July 2007, 23:08

Dear Nitrous,
The measure is done by the float method just like in petrol as LPG is liquid whilst in the tank. The dispensation from the pump too is in liquid state at high pressure and is measured in liters.
Bye and wear your seat belts.

nitrous · 23rd July 2007, 23:19

Thanks for answering,doctor!

esteem_lover · 23rd July 2007, 23:32

Best method to check FE in LPG is to empty your tank & fill in 10 ltrs or 20 ltrs LPG & run it till the LPG is totally empty & your car stalls, not the best of situations, but this is the right way to get the right FE. My car returns 9 Kmpl in start stop city driving with more emphatic driving in 2nd gear, i guess it should return better FE with a little careful driving.

mail4ajo · 24th July 2007, 00:02

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Originally Posted by esteem_lover

My car returns 9 Kmpl in start stop city driving with more emphatic driving in 2nd gear, i guess it should return better FE with a little careful driving.

What does it deliver on petrol? Isnt 9kms on LPG, a bit on the lower side?

esteem_lover · 24th July 2007, 00:03

On petrol it gives me just 6kmpl, so i guess i just cannot relate that to LPG. I have a problem with my carb which needs to be looked into.

But I am happy with 9kmpl on lpg with the required power & some spirited driving, just what i want.

biju · 24th July 2007, 10:36

Sorry Nitrous..

It's 2006 model ..not 1996 model..What a big mistake..he.hee.hee..

Sorry.!!

biju · 24th July 2007, 10:59

Regarding the filling of LPG.

Mine is Corrodial tank having capacity of 35 Ltrs. Normally I fill about 28 Ltrs.

Whether it will auto cut-off if you not set the capacity ?

Once I tried to fill it full tank. When it reached arount 30 litres a sound came from the filling pump "Errrr..rrr" but still it continued till 33 liters and I have to inform the person at the petrol pump to cut off. By the time it has filled almost 34 litres of LPG.

What are the consequences of having that much LPG on car.? What are the precautions that I have to take care if the same thing happened.?

Thank you for all your previous advices

BIJU

mail4ajo · 24th July 2007, 13:18

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Originally Posted by biju

Once I tried to fill it full tank. When it reached arount 30 litres a sound came from the filling pump "Errrr..rrr" but still it continued till 33 liters and I have to inform the person at the petrol pump to cut off. By the time it has filled almost 34 litres of LPG.

Biju, you have been misled. Next time, just ask for 28 litres and not full tank. The torodial tank's safety capacity is 28L. Although it may be able to fill more, just fill 28L.

esteem_lover · 24th July 2007, 13:34

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Originally Posted by biju

Regarding the filling of LPG.

Mine is Corrodial tank having capacity of 35 Ltrs. Normally I fill about 28 Ltrs.

Whether it will auto cut-off if you not set the capacity ?

Once I tried to fill it full tank. When it reached arount 30 litres a sound came from the filling pump "Errrr..rrr" but still it continued till 33 liters and I have to inform the person at the petrol pump to cut off. By the time it has filled almost 34 litres of LPG.

What are the consequences of having that much LPG on car.? What are the precautions that I have to take care if the same thing happened.?

Thank you for all your previous advices

BIJU

I think you have been taken for a ride. after the initial cut off, the drrrrrr sound comes for another 100-200 ml only, if it has continued, that means your bunk wallah was simply making the sound & not filling anything. Like ajo said, fill only 20 or 25 ltrs at a time.

shapath · 25th July 2007, 18:24

since there are views "against" LOVOTO i enquired about lovoto in their ANNA NAGAR dealership ,Chennai. the technician says( was ready to explain)

Lovoto is very easy to maintain even roadside mechanic can also adjust in case of NEED.
BRC cannot be done like this and he says BRC is good as long as there is no issues cropping up BUT if get any issues it is not easy to attend and also difficult to open the vapourizer and do tweaking LIKE lovoto ( because in lovoto the vaporizer can be easily fixed.) he showed how lovoto vapourizer is built.
reg zavoli LPG ..it is really good and sort of better than BRC but it needs an expert attention to INSTALL and cannot be tweaked/tuned buy other guys as even for simple tuning one has to adjust 3 things which are inter related. spareparts are also not easily available unlike LOVOTO .

When i told him there are complaint reg lovoto he said there is ONE ISSUE in lovoto which is accumulation of OIL in the vapourizer ..but this can be easily dried/removed in just few minutes. only thing is the customer after filling LPG about say 5-10 times in their cylinder HAS to dry/remove this OIL so that LOVOTO will run trouble free..it has to be maintained so that it will be really good & he said santro would get 10 KM per litre (LPG) in city and can expect 12-13 in highway driving.

By the way their pricing for santro MPFI is 16000 for cylinder type and 17000 for toroidal type 35 litre ( add 1500 for RTO Endorsement.)

any view/counter view are much appreciated .

23rd July 2007, 16:52	#107
biju BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cochin Posts: 25 Thanked: 0 Times	LPG Indicator I am having some doubt regarding the LPG Indicator. I am getting a mileage of average 16 Km per liter of Gas on my M800 MPFI 1996 model car. On running, the indicator light varies from High End to Low End. Though I have fully loaded my tank, on running the red light sometime glows for 10 seconds or so and after change that to normal mode. On normal mode also it sometime varies from 1 to 4. Can I get some suggestions with regard to this. Last edited by biju : 23rd July 2007 at 16:59.
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23rd July 2007, 23:08	#111
drpullockaran BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ERNAKULAM Posts: 961 Thanked: 388 Times	Lpg is liquid in the tank. Dear Nitrous, The measure is done by the float method just like in petrol as LPG is liquid whilst in the tank. The dispensation from the pump too is in liquid state at high pressure and is measured in liters. Bye and wear your seat belts.
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23rd July 2007, 23:19	#112
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,964 Thanked: 333 Times View My Garage	Thanks for answering,doctor!
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23rd July 2007, 23:32	#113
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,556 Thanked: 513 Times View My Garage	Best method to check FE in LPG is to empty your tank & fill in 10 ltrs or 20 ltrs LPG & run it till the LPG is totally empty & your car stalls, not the best of situations, but this is the right way to get the right FE. My car returns 9 Kmpl in start stop city driving with more emphatic driving in 2nd gear, i guess it should return better FE with a little careful driving.
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24th July 2007, 00:03	#115
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,556 Thanked: 513 Times View My Garage	On petrol it gives me just 6kmpl, so i guess i just cannot relate that to LPG. I have a problem with my carb which needs to be looked into. But I am happy with 9kmpl on lpg with the required power & some spirited driving, just what i want.
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24th July 2007, 10:36	#116
biju BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cochin Posts: 25 Thanked: 0 Times	Sorry Nitrous.. It's 2006 model ..not 1996 model..What a big mistake..he.hee.hee.. Sorry.!!
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24th July 2007, 10:59	#117
biju BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cochin Posts: 25 Thanked: 0 Times	Regarding the filling of LPG. Mine is Corrodial tank having capacity of 35 Ltrs. Normally I fill about 28 Ltrs. Whether it will auto cut-off if you not set the capacity ? Once I tried to fill it full tank. When it reached arount 30 litres a sound came from the filling pump "Errrr..rrr" but still it continued till 33 liters and I have to inform the person at the petrol pump to cut off. By the time it has filled almost 34 litres of LPG. What are the consequences of having that much LPG on car.? What are the precautions that I have to take care if the same thing happened.? Thank you for all your previous advices BIJU
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25th July 2007, 18:24	#120
shapath BANNED Join Date: May 2007 Location: CHENNAI Posts: 171 Thanked: 2 Times	about LOVOTO from their dealer...feedback appreciated since there are views "against" LOVOTO i enquired about lovoto in their ANNA NAGAR dealership ,Chennai. the technician says( was ready to explain) Lovoto is very easy to maintain even roadside mechanic can also adjust in case of NEED. BRC cannot be done like this and he says BRC is good as long as there is no issues cropping up BUT if get any issues it is not easy to attend and also difficult to open the vapourizer and do tweaking LIKE lovoto ( because in lovoto the vaporizer can be easily fixed.) he showed how lovoto vapourizer is built. reg zavoli LPG ..it is really good and sort of better than BRC but it needs an expert attention to INSTALL and cannot be tweaked/tuned buy other guys as even for simple tuning one has to adjust 3 things which are inter related. spareparts are also not easily available unlike LOVOTO . When i told him there are complaint reg lovoto he said there is ONE ISSUE in lovoto which is accumulation of OIL in the vapourizer ..but this can be easily dried/removed in just few minutes. only thing is the customer after filling LPG about say 5-10 times in their cylinder HAS to dry/remove this OIL so that LOVOTO will run trouble free..it has to be maintained so that it will be really good & he said santro would get 10 KM per litre (LPG) in city and can expect 12-13 in highway driving. By the way their pricing for santro MPFI is 16000 for cylinder type and 17000 for toroidal type 35 litre ( add 1500 for RTO Endorsement.) any view/counter view are much appreciated .
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