Know about LPG Conversion....

drpullockaran · 26th July 2007, 23:13

I had the LPG verification by the RTO at Cochin and the total cost worked out to Rs100 for verification.
I had to go there two times and the first time had to be in queue for about 25minutes but saved 900Rupees three years ago because thats what the tout was asking for saving me the pain of standing 25 minutes in queue.
Bye and wear your seat belts.

mail4ajo · 27th July 2007, 00:48

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Originally Posted by drpullockaran

I had the LPG verification by the RTO at

What is covered in this verification? How is it done?

moni123 · 27th July 2007, 10:32

whether automatic cars does fit good for LPG

nitrous · 27th July 2007, 11:40

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Originally Posted by moni

whether automatic cars does fit good for LPG

Logically, there shouldn't be a difference.

28th July 2007, 07:32

Has anybody have experience with Longas kit for Maruti 800 to share here? Which one is good for Maruti 800 STD 2001 Carb model ie. Zavoli, Lovoto or Longas? Is there any chances of serious problems of Engine/Pickup running 796cc,37bhp M800 2001 model on LPG? plz advise.

biju · 28th July 2007, 11:06

I have fitted with Longas-Italy kit around 3months back by Saban LPG Convertion Centre, Cochin. Mine is MPFI model Maruti 800 - 2006 model car. I am fully satisfied with their installation and the service they are giving. They are having very good technicians for proper tuninig.

The total cost for all these they charged me Rs. 20,000 for the torrodial tank and I am getting 16 Kms/ litre of LPG. After 1000 Kms they had done a Air filter cleaning also.

According to me if you are planning to install LPG kit, don't go for any local vendor, better get it done from some reputed firms. You can get more details from their website at Welcome to our website - Saban Autos.

BIJU

dashoin · 28th July 2007, 14:09

Help !!!

Has anyone converted an Ikon 1.6 to LPG ? I was trying to get it converted to CNG but the dealer told me that there is a loss of power on CNG due to which the ECM goes into the "Limp" mode. I was earlier thinking of converting on to CNG but am thoroughly confused now.

Mails to Ford India result in standard replies that Ford does not recommend this - a big no- no from them.

Any help guys?

esteem_lover · 28th July 2007, 14:31

AFAIK, it is not a very successful operation, i don't know why, maybe nitrous can explain.

nitrous · 28th July 2007, 14:52

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Originally Posted by dashoin

Has anyone converted an Ikon 1.6 to LPG ? I was trying to get it converted to CNG but the dealer told me that there is a loss of power on CNG due to which the ECM goes into the "Limp" mode. I was earlier thinking of converting on to CNG but am thoroughly confused now.

From what i gather, Ford engines aren't LPG/CNG friendly.
And all who've converted their Fords to LPG/CNG have had major engine problems and the tuners accept that too. Nobody knows why.
And so, im running my Ford ikon on Petrol.

condor · 28th July 2007, 15:19

Car is a M800, carb version. Auto-LPG kit installed recently.

My cousin says that at speeds above 70-80, there is a noise that comes in waves - like the engine speed increasing, then decreasing, and then increasing again. When he switches to petrol, this reduces to a large extent. On switching back to LPG after this, the noise continues at a reduced level, like with petrol.

Any ideas ?

mail4ajo · 28th July 2007, 21:25

One of my friends in Kerala wants to remove the LPG kit from his 2004 Santro and sell the car to his uncle who doesnt run too much and doesnt have a LPG bunk nearby.

My question is whether we can remove LPG endorsement and transfer ownership? He plans to go for a Diesel Logan shortly. Please let me know expert feedback.

premdiv · 28th July 2007, 23:45

hello guys heard from my friends that the fluctuatio in fe is far more when we travel at speeds in excess of 80. Is this true???

wolfinstein · 28th July 2007, 23:49

Why not let the Kit remain just disable the connections, or remove it- Ideally if the ownership changes to Uncle, The RC will need to be changed for the New owner so it will become easier to remove the LPG Endorsement.

drpullockaran · 29th July 2007, 00:06

At the RTO office they ask you to fill up a form and pay Rs 100 then later in the day they ask you to come for inspection of the LPG kit usually at about 4pm by the Assistant RTO officer who verifies that all is well with the safety valve of the kit and that the LPG tank is in sound condition and approved by the government of India. Total cost for a new Registration plastic certificate with the kit being endorsed in the certificate is only Rs 100; at least its so in Cochin RTO.

And its true that the FORD ECU and engine do not take kindly to conversion to gas. All other engines manufactured in India for less than13lakhs accepts LPG well. I am not sure about CNG though as I hear its a far drier gas( I do not know what that means"the gas being drier should keep the oil cleaner")

Bye and wear your seat belts

nitrous · 29th July 2007, 02:43

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Originally Posted by drpullockaran

I am not sure about CNG though as I hear its a far drier gas( I do not know what that means"the gas being drier should keep the oil cleaner")

Simple. The drier the gas,the higher the friction which translates to premature engine head wear. Moreso, if the car is revved hard often!

26th July 2007, 23:13	#121
drpullockaran BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ERNAKULAM Posts: 962 Thanked: 385 Times	Do not be taken for a ride. I had the LPG verification by the RTO at Cochin and the total cost worked out to Rs100 for verification. I had to go there two times and the first time had to be in queue for about 25minutes but saved 900Rupees three years ago because thats what the tout was asking for saving me the pain of standing 25 minutes in queue. Bye and wear your seat belts.
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27th July 2007, 10:32	#123
moni123 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5 Thanked: 3 Times	whether automatic cars does fit good for LPG
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28th July 2007, 07:32	#125
vinfriend Posts: n/a	Has anybody have experience with Longas kit for Maruti 800 to share here? Which one is good for Maruti 800 STD 2001 Carb model ie. Zavoli, Lovoto or Longas? Is there any chances of serious problems of Engine/Pickup running 796cc,37bhp M800 2001 model on LPG? plz advise.
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28th July 2007, 11:06	#126
biju BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cochin Posts: 25 Thanked: 0 Times	I have fitted with Longas-Italy kit around 3months back by Saban LPG Convertion Centre, Cochin. Mine is MPFI model Maruti 800 - 2006 model car. I am fully satisfied with their installation and the service they are giving. They are having very good technicians for proper tuninig. The total cost for all these they charged me Rs. 20,000 for the torrodial tank and I am getting 16 Kms/ litre of LPG. After 1000 Kms they had done a Air filter cleaning also. According to me if you are planning to install LPG kit, don't go for any local vendor, better get it done from some reputed firms. You can get more details from their website at Welcome to our website - Saban Autos. BIJU
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28th July 2007, 14:09	#127
dashoin BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MH12 Posts: 85 Thanked: 17 Times	Help !!! Has anyone converted an Ikon 1.6 to LPG ? I was trying to get it converted to CNG but the dealer told me that there is a loss of power on CNG due to which the ECM goes into the "Limp" mode. I was earlier thinking of converting on to CNG but am thoroughly confused now. Mails to Ford India result in standard replies that Ford does not recommend this - a big no- no from them. Any help guys?
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28th July 2007, 14:31	#128
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,556 Thanked: 502 Times View My Garage	AFAIK, it is not a very successful operation, i don't know why, maybe nitrous can explain.
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28th July 2007, 15:19	#130
condor Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Speed-brkr City Posts: 15,867 Thanked: 16,020 Times View My Garage	Engine Noise with LPG usage - M800 Car is a M800, carb version. Auto-LPG kit installed recently. My cousin says that at speeds above 70-80, there is a noise that comes in waves - like the engine speed increasing, then decreasing, and then increasing again. When he switches to petrol, this reduces to a large extent. On switching back to LPG after this, the noise continues at a reduced level, like with petrol. Any ideas ?
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28th July 2007, 21:25	#131
mail4ajo Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 1,957 Thanked: 331 Times View My Garage	One of my friends in Kerala wants to remove the LPG kit from his 2004 Santro and sell the car to his uncle who doesnt run too much and doesnt have a LPG bunk nearby. My question is whether we can remove LPG endorsement and transfer ownership? He plans to go for a Diesel Logan shortly. Please let me know expert feedback.
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28th July 2007, 23:45	#132
premdiv BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 164 Thanked: Once	hello guys heard from my friends that the fluctuatio in fe is far more when we travel at speeds in excess of 80. Is this true???
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28th July 2007, 23:49	#133
wolfinstein BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 994 Thanked: 20 Times	Why not let the Kit remain just disable the connections, or remove it- Ideally if the ownership changes to Uncle, The RC will need to be changed for the New owner so it will become easier to remove the LPG Endorsement.
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29th July 2007, 00:06	#134
drpullockaran BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ERNAKULAM Posts: 962 Thanked: 385 Times	At the RTO office they ask you to fill up a form and pay Rs 100 then later in the day they ask you to come for inspection of the LPG kit usually at about 4pm by the Assistant RTO officer who verifies that all is well with the safety valve of the kit and that the LPG tank is in sound condition and approved by the government of India. Total cost for a new Registration plastic certificate with the kit being endorsed in the certificate is only Rs 100; at least its so in Cochin RTO. And its true that the FORD ECU and engine do not take kindly to conversion to gas. All other engines manufactured in India for less than13lakhs accepts LPG well. I am not sure about CNG though as I hear its a far drier gas( I do not know what that means"the gas being drier should keep the oil cleaner") Bye and wear your seat belts
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