Maruti Suzuki Swift : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread

anshurao · 20th October 2008, 18:36

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Originally Posted by SOUM

Hi Guys,
I am a new member and have been keenly following the fabulous articles on tyre & rims. I have booked my Swift Vdi white and is expecting delivery early next month.
I am interested in upgrading my tyres to 195/60/R15 with Yokohama Es100 tyres. Can the experts confirm as to whether I am on the right track track or not? The exchange price against the stock tyres is around 33K (4 rims & tyres). Is the price Ok?

I am no expert, tyre size is perfect but the ES100 is a pretty old model so you may want to look for something else. And before you pick your wheels make sure you have the correct offset, +38 is the correct offset for the swift, you could play around with plus or minus 3mm.

SOUM · 20th October 2008, 19:21

Thanks ANSHURAO
To be honest I am still in the learning phase and do not have much of an idea on "Offset". Would you mind educating me on this please?
How do I ensure that the offset is +38.

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Originally Posted by anshurao

I am no expert, tyre size is perfect but the ES100 is a pretty old model so you may want to look for something else. And before you pick your wheels make sure you have the correct offset, +38 is the correct offset for the swift, you could play around with plus or minus 3mm.

SOUM · 20th October 2008, 19:52

Hi anshurao,
Lessons learnt

. Searched the net and now I am marginally aware of what offset is all about. Thanks for pushing me. I believe I should be finding it engraved on the rims.

Comming to the other points, in case ES100 is old, what make and model would you suggest? For rims, I have made an initial selection of a LEAGUE make mag which I found on the Scoda superb as a standard fitment in of the Cars & Bikes magazine. How about the net exchange price of 33K for a set of 4 against the factory fitted tyres and rims?

Cheers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by anshurao

I am no expert, tyre size is perfect but the ES100 is a pretty old model so you may want to look for something else. And before you pick your wheels make sure you have the correct offset, +38 is the correct offset for the swift, you could play around with plus or minus 3mm.

blinkjona · 20th October 2008, 21:58

upsizing my new swift vxi - pls help choose 195/60R15 or 185 70 14 or 195 65 14?
dont want to compromise on FE and performance!
considering G3 or yoko, any other suggestions? further more pls share reference/best prices with stock exchange (new) in bangalore
thanks

adi99 · 21st October 2008, 01:00

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Originally Posted by blinkjona

upsizing my new swift vxi - pls help choose 195/60R15 or 185 70 14 or 195 65 14?
dont want to compromise on FE and performance!
considering G3 or yoko, any other suggestions? further more pls share reference/best prices with stock exchange (new) in bangalore
thanks

195/60 R15 - Better performance and handling than stock.
185/70 R14 - Comes with Swift ZXi. So I dont think there is any compromise on FE and Performance.

If not G3 or Yoko, go for Michelins.

And I am still waiting for gurus to answer my questions in the above post # 396

iraghava · 21st October 2008, 01:03

SOUM - I think the price is a bit high. 4 15" rims should be about 16k while 4 ES100's in 195/60 should cost you about 12-13k after exchange. Ask the dealer to reduce the prices by about 3-5k.

Other tyre options you can look at are: Yokohama A.Drive, Michelin MXV8, BF Goodrich G-Force Sport etc.

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Originally Posted by blinkjona

upsizing my new swift vxi - pls help choose 195/60R15 or 185 70 14 or 195 65 14?
dont want to compromise on FE and performance!
considering G3 or yoko, any other suggestions? further more pls share reference/best prices with stock exchange (new) in bangalore
thanks

Stick to 185/70 R14 if your primary requirement is good FE.

blinkjona · 21st October 2008, 09:25

Thanks iraghava and adi!
so the 195/60 R15 does effect FE???

adi99 · 21st October 2008, 11:24

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Originally Posted by blinkjona

Thanks iraghava and adi!
so the 195/60 R15 does effect FE???

After reading reviews and talking to many swift owners with 195/60 R15, FE may drop by 0.5 km-1 km max but the handling will be excellent since this is the right upsize for 15" inch. Looks good as well!

If you want to continue with the existing 14" inch, go for 185/70 as Iraghava said. No issues with FE.

blinkjona · 21st October 2008, 12:18

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Originally Posted by adi99

After reading reviews and talking to many swift owners with 195/60 R15, FE may drop by 0.5 km-1 km max but the handling will be excellent since this is the right upsize for 15" inch. Looks good as well!

If you want to continue with the existing 14" inch, go for 185/70 as Iraghava said. No issues with FE.

cant agree more, 195/60 R15 does look awesome! tough choice tho',
FE Vs performance

anshurao · 21st October 2008, 13:36

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Originally Posted by SOUM

Hi anshurao,

Comming to the other points, in case ES100 is old, what make and model would you suggest? For rims, I have made an initial selection of a LEAGUE make mag which I found on the Scoda superb as a standard fitment in of the Cars & Bikes magazine. How about the net exchange price of 33K for a set of 4 against the factory fitted tyres and rims?

Cheers.

I guess Ishan has answered these, some of the best suggestions come from him

blinkjona · 21st October 2008, 20:22

guys pls help choose 195/60/15 - yoko es100 or A drive for swift vxi.
got the quote from Super Tech Tyre, B'lore - Rs.3500- es100, A Drive -Rs.3400 with stock buyback of Rs.900 each. just want to double check with BHpians here.
thanks!!!

iraghava · 22nd October 2008, 03:33

What are you looking for? Comfort, Performance or Looks? Based on that we can help you better.

P.S. Thanks for the kind words Anshu!

iraghava · 22nd October 2008, 03:43

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Originally Posted by adi99

Guys, I know 205/55 R15 is the right upsize for Swift but what difference does it make if I go for 205/50 R15 or 205/50 R16?

205/50 R15 - Wrong upsize?
205/50 R16 - Too much for a swift?

I like the 50 profile! What are the disadvantages? or any advantages?

205/55 is best. 205/50 will give you incorrect OD, harsher ride (compared to 55) and increased chances (marginally) of sidewall failure in our conditions.

If you really want 50 profile, go in for 205/50 R16, it's a decent compromise.

blinkjona · 22nd October 2008, 12:02

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Originally Posted by iraghava

What are you looking for? Comfort, Performance or Looks? Based on that we can help you better.

P.S. Thanks for the kind words Anshu!

I am all for performance and looks and wouldn't want to compromise on FE.
I read ppl claiming ES100 to be old and that A drive maybe a better option.
I am inclined to 195/60/15 a drive?

adi99 · 22nd October 2008, 15:31

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Originally Posted by iraghava

205/55 is best. 205/50 will give you incorrect OD, harsher ride (compared to 55) and increased chances (marginally) of sidewall failure in our conditions.

If you really want 50 profile, go in for 205/50 R16, it's a decent compromise.

Thank you, Ishan! This is exactly what I wanted to know. Now I have kept myself two options:

205/55 R15
205/50 R16

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blinkjona BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: bangalore Posts: 43 Thanked: 0 Times	guys pls help choose 195/60/15 - yoko es100 or A drive for swift vxi. got the quote from Super Tech Tyre, B'lore - Rs.3500- es100, A Drive -Rs.3400 with stock buyback of Rs.900 each. just want to double check with BHpians here. thanks!!!
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