[unknown]

Hows the yokohame Earth 1 ? & between c drives & 550s which is better ?

[spadix]

Originally Posted by unknown

Hows the yokohame Earth 1 ? & between c drives & 550s which is better ?

I've driven only the V550s, so I can't compare. In absolute terms the V550s are *good*. A TBHPian who uses 3STs on his Cruze was complimenting the silence of the V550s on a drive yesterday. Of course, the comparison point was only the silence.

The tyre positioning map on the Yoko website is a good starting point in terms of wrapping one's head around the various products. The Yokos are especially bad when it comes to this as many if the products seem similar in what they offer. :(

Regards,
spadix

[spadix]

Originally Posted by spadix

Finally changed my stock Goodyear Eagle NCT5s. Three of them ran for 37787 km. One had gone completely bald by around the 32500 km mark, so the stepney tyre did "mains" duty for the last 5k kms. Now it's back as the stepney, and the other four have been replaced by Yoko AVS dB v550s in 195/65 R15 size.

I've had the tyres for exactly 20 days now. Did 1726 kms on them so far.

With the older NCT5s, I noticed that tyre pressure never dropped in 2 or 3 weeks even, so I'd stopped checking once a week like I used to in the very early days after buying the car. Instead I used to combine tyre pressure monitoring with refueling visits, which typically happen once in 3-4 weeks (on average if I'm mostly driving in-city) for me.

Continuing in that vein I topped up air for the first time today after the Yokos were installed and found the pressure (cold) to be around 23-24 psi in all four tyres! I use the same pump I always visit.

When the tyres were mounted 31 psi was pumped into them and valve caps were also installed.

So I should now monitor pressure once a week (which is a good practice anyway) as these tyres seem to demand that compared to the NCT5s. Or at least I should make it a point to definitely monitor on every refueling visit (had 4 of those in the 1726 kms) without getting out off due to either laziness or by the line at the air pump.

Regards,
spadix

[revvhed]

This is such a hard decision .. sigh !

From my Civic tyres I want (like most of us) ;

1. A soft ride
2. Silence
3. Grip

Here's my dilemma.

I believe that up-sizing to 205/65 R 15 will give a better ride due to the (slightly) increased sidewall height. Is this true ? Are there any other foreseeable problems ? Any chance of the ABS sensor accuracy being affected by the (very small) increase in the diameter ?

Could all members who have upsized to this size please provide their personal feedback. Is it worth upsizing or should i stick to the stock size ?

Secondly,

I wanted to initially go for the Yokohama C Drives, but they are very difficult to obtain and some tyre dealers have mentioned that they are going to be discontinued. Obviously then, i would want to avoid them, as if i (God forbid) need a replacement in the future i won't be able to get the same pattern.

The AVS db V550 also have been replaced in Thailand and other similar markets by the Advan db V551. That would lead me to infer that the AVS db V550 would also be gradually phased out if the Advan db is introduced here.

Nikhil / Irags .. and all other tyre experts, are the Advan db going to be introduced here in the near future ?

I was also suggested the Pirelli Cinturato P1 by a dealer here who said that it would provide a soft ride. Any inputs on the Pirellis ? Why aren't they popular in our market ?

and

The Michelin Primacy 3 ST are only available in 195/65 R 15.
However if these are so good that they will give the same dynamics without an up-size i don't mind this option either.


What do you guys advise ?

Heeelllllllllpppppppp !!

[Nikhilb2008]

Originally Posted by revvhed

This is such a hard decision .. sigh !

From my Civic tyres I want (like most of us) ;

1. A soft ride
2. Silence
3. Grip

Here's my dilemma.

I believe that up-sizing to 205/65 R 15 will give a better ride due to the (slightly) increased sidewall height. Is this true ? Are there any other foreseeable problems ? Any chance of the ABS sensor accuracy being affected by the (very small) increase in the diameter ?

Could all members who have upsized to this size please provide their personal feedback. Is it worth upsizing or should i stick to the stock size ?

Secondly,

I wanted to initially go for the Yokohama C Drives, but they are very difficult to obtain and some tyre dealers have mentioned that they are going to be discontinued. Obviously then, i would want to avoid them, as if i (God forbid) need a replacement in the future i won't be able to get the same pattern.

The AVS db V550 also have been replaced in Thailand and other similar markets by the Advan db V551. That would lead me to infer that the AVS db V550 would also be gradually phased out if the Advan db is introduced here.

Nikhil / Irags .. and all other tyre experts, are the Advan db going to be introduced here in the near future ?

I was also suggested the Pirelli Cinturato P1 by a dealer here who said that it would provide a soft ride. Any inputs on the Pirellis ? Why aren't they popular in our market ?

and

The Michelin Primacy 3 ST are only available in 195/65 R 15.
However if these are so good that they will give the same dynamics without an up-size i don't mind this option either.


What do you guys advise ?

Heeelllllllllpppppppp !!

There is no chance of Advan being made in India anywhere in the near future. A best case could be where Yokohama at least brings it to India.

[ramanak]

Originally Posted by revvhed

This is such a hard decision .. sigh !

From my Civic tyres I want (like most of us) ;

1. A soft ride
2. Silence
3. Grip

Here's my dilemma.

I believe that up-sizing to 205/65 R 15 will give a better ride due to the (slightly) increased sidewall height. Is this true ? Are there any other foreseeable problems ? Any chance of the ABS sensor accuracy being affected by the (very small) increase in the diameter ?

I went for 205/65/15 Michelin XM2 for my Civic.No problems whatsoever due to upsize even with 5 people + full boot load . Ride will be lot better due to up-size you can get rid of common problems like under body scraping on speed breakers etc. You will enjoy increased stability in high speed cornering as well. Did not notice any impact on ABS.

Cheers.

[spadix]

Originally Posted by revvhed

The Michelin Primacy 3 ST are only available in 195/65 R 15. However if these are so good that they will give the same dynamics without an up-size i don't mind this option either. What do you guys advise?

3ST is available in 205/60 R16 etc. but at around 9300-9600 per tyre. So if you really want a 205 cross-section you could upgrade to 16" alloys and get this.

The manual mentions 205/65 R15 as well, so I assume it's within design spec ABS/suspension/etc.-wise.

Regards,
spadix

[revvhed]

Thanks for the replies guys.

@ Spadix - I see that you have not upsized and retained the stock 195s. May i know the reason for this decision please ?

@ Nikhil - What is your feedback on the Pirelli's ?

[spadix]

Originally Posted by revvhed

@ Spadix - I see that you have not upsized and retained the stock 195s. May i know the reason for this decision please ?

Many reasons. I was happy with stock tyre width and profile. I didn't want the added steering weight, lower fuel efficiency and higher cost of a wider section tyre. And at that this stage of my life, with a little kid in tow, I definitely won't be carving corners. Not that that would have mattered, because I could never ever get even the pathetic stock Goodyear Eagle NCT5s to squeal. So 195 section on any new tyre that's better than stock is already more than sufficient in terms of cornering grip.

Regards,
spadix

[rohan.xj]

Same old question friends, does upsizing have any major cons? i am planning to change my stock tyres and am confused between 195 65 R15 and 205 65 R15s. Have spoken to at least 5 different dealers and have received varied responses from all. Changemytyre.com confidently suggests that a shift from 195 to 205 will not create any problem.

Also, all dealers have unanimously recommended Bridgestones (Turanza Er 300) irrespective of 195 or 205. Are these really the best? Or should i try the Michelins/Yokos/any other brand?

I am looking for minimum road noise and uncompromised road handling (especially at high speeds on highways). I do not mind if the FE takes a minor hit. However, I do not want any additional scraping issues due to the upsized tyres. Changing the rim is not option.

[Nikhilb2008]

Originally Posted by rohan.xj

Same old question friends, does upsizing have any major cons? i am planning to change my stock tyres and am confused between 195 65 R15 and 205 65 R15s. Have spoken to at least 5 different dealers and have received varied responses from all. Changemytyre.com confidently suggests that a shift from 195 to 205 will not create any problem.

Also, all dealers have unanimously recommended Bridgestones (Turanza Er 300) irrespective of 195 or 205. Are these really the best? Or should i try the Michelins/Yokos/any other brand?

I am looking for minimum road noise and uncompromised road handling (especially at high speeds on highways). I do not mind if the FE takes a minor hit. However, I do not want any additional scraping issues due to the upsized tyres. Changing the rim is not option.

For a Civic, 205/65-15 is the perfect upsize. You will not have any issues with the car. I myself am running 205/65-15 Michelin Primacy LCs on my car and am very happy with the increased ground clearance and better ride comfort.

In 205/65-15, you can go for the Yoko A drives, C Drives, Michelin XM2, and lot of other options.

[revvhed]

Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

In 205/65-15, you can go for the Yoko A drives, C Drives, Michelin XM2, and lot of other options.

Hey Nikhil,

What's your feedback on the Pirelli Cinturato P1 ?

[dinu2506]

I ran my Civic on 205 65 R15 Bridgestone Turanza ER60 for 3 years before I sold the car. Absolutely fantastic tyres and no complaints.

[rohan.xj]

Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

For a Civic, 205/65-15 is the perfect upsize. You will not have any issues with the car. I myself am running 205/65-15 Michelin Primacy LCs on my car and am very happy with the increased ground clearance and better ride comfort.

In 205/65-15, you can go for the Yoko A drives, C Drives, Michelin XM2, and lot of other options.

Thanks Nikhil, getting the new tyres fitted asap!

Originally Posted by dinu2506

I ran my Civic on 205 65 R15 Bridgestone Turanza ER60 for 3 years before I sold the car. Absolutely fantastic tyres and no complaints.

Thanks for the advice on Bridgestones Dinu, i will scout the market for Michelins, else Bridgestone Turanza ER 300 it is!

[dinu2506]

Originally Posted by rohan.xj

Thanks for the advice on Bridgestones Dinu, i will scout the market for Michelins, else Bridgestone Turanza ER 300 it is!

Mine was not ER300, it was ER60. I run the same on my Verna as well. Have had absolutely no complaints. Slightly pricier compared to the A Drives.