Fiat Palio : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread

reignofchaos · 9th February 2008, 12:40

LOL tyre upsize never leads to loss of warranty. That guy is talking rubbish.

razor4077 · 9th February 2008, 12:52

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Originally Posted by Rahulkool

i talked to the showroom people yesterday and he said there won't be any problem ..... so what do u guys suggest ?? should i go ahead with new tires ??

There shouldn't be a problem. I haven't heard of anyone's warranty becoming void due to a tyre oversize.
In any case, unless it's a monster of an oversize (which is not the case with you) 8 out of 10 workshops won't even notice it. And since the showroom people have said there isn't a problem, you have nothing to worry about

Go for it. The 1.6 deserves better footwear! And let us know what tyre you finally opt for.

iraghava · 9th February 2008, 13:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahulkool

i talked to the showroom people yesterday and he said there won't be any problem ..... so what do u guys suggest ?? should i go ahead with new tires ??

Yes, shouldn't be a problem at all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by reignofchaos

LOL tyre upsize never leads to loss of warranty. That guy is talking rubbish.

Most of then do ROC, most of them do!

Rahulkool · 9th February 2008, 15:11

yup will let u guys updated

one last query

how is goodyear eagle F1 GSD2 tires ?? and how much approximately they will cost i mean 195/60 R14 . here is a link to the product page GSD2

iraghava · 9th February 2008, 16:25

They are pure junk. Stay away.

kpzen · 9th February 2008, 19:10

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Originally Posted by iraghava

They are pure junk. Stay away.

x 10.

Please stay away from Goodyears.

In 195/60-14 u have so many tyre options other than Goodyears.

Rahulkool · 14th February 2008, 14:55

here are some pricing guys .....

Michelin PP 4100/- (not PP2)
XM1+ 4050/-

Yokohama ES100 3510

yoko S-drive not available ATM ..... i saw the thread patterns in yoko ES100 and michelin PP and altho both are same size 195/60 14 but ES100 contact patch is less than PP

so i am thinking about getting the ES100
how both tyres compared in noise ??

also for old tyres he said 1900 for goodyear/ 2050 for MRF / Bridgestone 2200 ..... 1.6 comes mostly with goodyear

kpzen · 14th February 2008, 15:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahulkool

here are some pricing guys .....

Michelin PP 4100/- (not PP2)
XM1+ 4050/-

Yokohama ES100 3510

The price u have quoted are for which size.??
I had bought 195/60-14 Michelin Energy XM1 for 3.4k 5 months back.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahulkool

yoko S-drive not available ATM ..... i saw the thread patterns in yoko ES100 and michelin PP and altho both are same size 195/60 14 but ES100 contact patch is less than PP

so i am thinking about getting the ES100
how both tyres compared in noise ??

You won't get S drives in 195/60-14
PP will have less road noise in comparison to ES100.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahulkool

also for old tyres he said 1900 for goodyear/ 2050 for MRF / Bridgestone 2200 ..... 1.6 comes mostly with goodyear

The dealer is right.

Rahulkool · 14th February 2008, 17:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by kpzen

The price u have quoted are for which size.??
I had bought 195/60-14 Michelin Energy XM1 for 3.4k 5 months back.

You won't get S drives in 195/60-14
PP will have less road noise in comparison to ES100.

The dealer is right.

thanks bro for detailed reply

the prices are for 195/60 14 .... he was quoting 3800 for XM1 and 4050 XM1+ .... so i think i can bargain a little more in michelins, wat bout ES100 price ? is it ok ?

how is performance of ES100 compared to PP ? i think rolling resistance of ES100 will be less than PP

kpzen · 14th February 2008, 21:59

1. I think ES100 should be around 3300.
2. PP is better than ES100 if u consider all the parameters. Thats my personal experience.

iraghava · 15th February 2008, 04:25

Difference in rolling resistance of PP & ES100 in the same size would be negligible at best. I don't think that should be an issue in your decision making process especially since we can't quantify the difference.

Rahulkool · 15th February 2008, 17:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by iraghava

Difference in rolling resistance of PP & ES100 in the same size would be negligible at best. I don't think that should be an issue in your decision making process especially since we can't quantify the difference.

hmmmm .... but when i looked both tyres at the dealer, michelin looked quit wider than the yoko

Quote:

Originally Posted by kpzen

1. I think ES100 should be around 3300.
2. PP is better than ES100 if u consider all the parameters. Thats my personal experience.

lets see how much i can bargain, if there is not much difference between ES100 and PP i will go with PP ....

kpzen · 15th February 2008, 20:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahulkool

hmmmm .... but when i looked both tyres at the dealer, michelin looked quit wider than the yoko

How can u quantify the rolling resistance of two tyres(same size) just by looking??

moralfibre · 15th February 2008, 22:16

Guys, is 185/60/R14 a right upsize for the Palio?

adityamunshi · 15th February 2008, 22:28

185/65/R14 would be the right size.

Read this http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...tml#post497430

9th February 2008, 12:40	#196
reignofchaos Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,542 Thanked: 2,450 Times View My Garage	LOL tyre upsize never leads to loss of warranty. That guy is talking rubbish.
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9th February 2008, 15:11	#199
Rahulkool Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,386 Thanked: 1,416 Times View My Garage	yup will let u guys updated one last query how is goodyear eagle F1 GSD2 tires ?? and how much approximately they will cost i mean 195/60 R14 . here is a link to the product page GSD2
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9th February 2008, 16:25	#200
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 8,033 Thanked: 265 Times View My Garage	They are pure junk. Stay away.
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14th February 2008, 14:55	#202
Rahulkool Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,386 Thanked: 1,416 Times View My Garage	here are some pricing guys ..... Michelin PP 4100/- (not PP2) XM1+ 4050/- Yokohama ES100 3510 yoko S-drive not available ATM ..... i saw the thread patterns in yoko ES100 and michelin PP and altho both are same size 195/60 14 but ES100 contact patch is less than PP so i am thinking about getting the ES100 how both tyres compared in noise ?? also for old tyres he said 1900 for goodyear/ 2050 for MRF / Bridgestone 2200 ..... 1.6 comes mostly with goodyear Last edited by Rahulkool : 14th February 2008 at 14:57.
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14th February 2008, 21:59	#205
kpzen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Faridabad Posts: 5,610 Thanked: 1,876 Times View My Garage	1. I think ES100 should be around 3300. 2. PP is better than ES100 if u consider all the parameters. Thats my personal experience.
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15th February 2008, 04:25	#206
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 8,033 Thanked: 265 Times View My Garage	Difference in rolling resistance of PP & ES100 in the same size would be negligible at best. I don't think that should be an issue in your decision making process especially since we can't quantify the difference.
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15th February 2008, 22:16	#209
moralfibre Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MH-12 Posts: 8,451 Thanked: 13,973 Times	Guys, is 185/60/R14 a right upsize for the Palio?
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15th February 2008, 22:28	#210
adityamunshi BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Baroda Posts: 771 Thanked: 6 Times	185/65/R14 would be the right size. Read this http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...tml#post497430
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