Fiat Palio : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread

finneyp · 19th June 2007, 13:02

Palio & Petra owners: In Aura range of Alloys, if you need a 98 PCD 14" Alloys, they have only one design C1455 shown below, price is Rs.17,450 for a set of 5 pcs.

typeOnegative · 19th June 2007, 13:53

Thanks a tonne Finney. That seems a reasonable price as well.

binz · 19th June 2007, 20:07

Why dont you just pick up a set of palio alloys,..the ones that come on the GTX,..they are 14" i think/..

typeOnegative · 19th June 2007, 20:49

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Originally Posted by binz

Why dont you just pick up a set of palio alloys,..the ones that come on the GTX,..they are 14" i think/..

I think it is very tough to get those. Somebody, I forget who, also mentioned that Fiat is not willing to supply those. The alloys that do duty on the Stile.

finneyp · 20th June 2007, 10:29

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Originally Posted by typeOnegative

I think it is very tough to get those. Somebody, I forget who, also mentioned that Fiat is not willing to supply those. The alloys that do duty on the Stile.

TypeO, Just called up Manipal Motors (Tata Fiat dealer), to my surprise, Palio OEM 14" Alloys is available for sale, but it is priced at Rs.4425 per peice, whereas the Aura 14" 98 PCD Alloys is priced at Rs.3490 per peice. A whopping difference of Rs.1000 per peice.
Is it worth it?

moralfibre · 20th June 2007, 11:44

Yes it is worth it! Looks better than the Aura design you chose.

finneyp · 20th June 2007, 12:06

Thanks Moral, even I liked the design of OEM Alloys!

Will go for the OEM then!

moralfibre · 20th June 2007, 12:40

Ask them if they warranty this OEM alloy that you purchase. If they dont then rack their brains to give you a warranty

. I would do that if I bought them from Fiat. If you want to throw your stock rims throw them in my direction please alongwith your worn out tyres. A friend needs them here desperately and will pay you a good price too.

Thanks
Kiran

typeOnegative · 20th June 2007, 17:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by finneyp

TypeO, Just called up Manipal Motors (Tata Fiat dealer), to my surprise, Palio OEM 14" Alloys is available for sale, but it is priced at Rs.4425 per peice, whereas the Aura 14" 98 PCD Alloys is priced at Rs.3490 per peice. A whopping difference of Rs.1000 per peice.
Is it worth it?

Hmm that is good news Finney. I am going to go in for alloys a bit later. Will ping Fiat at that time. The difference is okay to me as the Fiat alloys look better than the Aura ones.

amitsingh08 · 12th August 2007, 09:09

Dear friends

Reading threads on tyres has taught me a lot. I'm exchanging my palio 1.6 stock tyres for Michelin Energy XM1. But size is confusing.

Question: Should I go for 185/60 as opposed to recommended 185/65?

14" diameter = 7" radius or 178mm (7*2.54*10) (I've rounded to nearest mm)

stock radius = 175*.65 + 178 = 113.75 + 178 = 292mm
circumferance = 2*22/7*292 = 1835mm

185/65 radius = 185*.65 + 178 = 120.25 + 178 = 298 mm
circumferance = 1873mm (+38mm)

185/60 radius = 185*.60 + 178 = 108 + 178 = 286mm
circumferance = 1873mm (+38mm) = 1798mm (-37mm from stock)

185/60 has advantage of shorter tyre wall, lesser deformation on curves, leading to better high speed cornering.
As you can see 185/60 is closer to stock than recommended 185/65.

Don't want 195/65 because of mild impact on FE. Palio 1.6 isn't known for fuel efficiency

Comprehensive recommendations here

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...tml#post497430

Experienced members - advise please. Thank you.

AmitNone [hide]

iraghava · 12th August 2007, 11:59

Amit - The possible options for upsizing in your car are:

185/60 R14
185/65 R14
195/60 R14

So yes, you can use the 185/60's since they'll give you a nice compromise between increased grip & also not have much effect on the FE. The difference in OD between 175/65 & 185/60 is -0.9% only so that is not an issue.

195/65 is not recommended since the OD difference is going to be 4.46% which is much above the permissible limits.

amitsingh08 · 12th August 2007, 14:05

Thanks iraghava, I've confirmed 185/60 with dealer

FerrariRulez · 1st October 2007, 17:37

Iam looking to upgrade the tyres on my Palio 1.6 Sport (from the stock 175/60 R14, alloys) to either 195/60 R14 or 205/60 R14.
couple of questions -
1. Which is better upsize option?
2. Which tyre is the best option - Bridgestone Potenza G3 or Michellin
3. R these tyres V-rated?

I'm willing to sacrifice a little bit of handling and grip for better ride comfort and tyre life.

WasavaTyres · 1st October 2007, 20:07

If you plan to retain your existing rims then I suggest you go in for 185/70/R13 tires. Will fit like a breeze.

greatDrive · 1st October 2007, 20:45

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Originally Posted by FerrariRulez

Iam looking to upgrade the tyres on my Palio 1.6 Sport (from the stock 175/60 R14, alloys) to either 195/60 R14 or 205/60 R14.
couple of questions -
1. Which is better upsize option?
2. Which tyre is the best option - Bridgestone Potenza G3 or Michellin
3. R these tyres V-rated?

I'm willing to sacrifice a little bit of handling and grip for better ride comfort and tyre life.

with 14 inches Alloys/Rims, Palio 1.6 has 2 best options
185/65/ R14 - Most of the people go in for this upgrade.
195/60/R14 - Some people in TBHP are using it for their palios/Petra.

Michellin XM1 is a better option if you get a good deal, Potenza GIII is also good tyres for upgrade if you are looking for better tyre life and are long lasting.
Michellin tyres claims to improve the Car efficiency by 10% and are silent than GIII on roads. GIII makes a lot of noise.

Cheers.

19th June 2007, 13:02	#136
finneyp Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,716 Thanked: 319 Times View My Garage	Palio & Petra owners: In Aura range of Alloys, if you need a 98 PCD 14" Alloys, they have only one design C1455 shown below, price is Rs.17,450 for a set of 5 pcs.
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19th June 2007, 13:53	#137
typeOnegative Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Vikhroli, Mumbai, India Posts: 1,503 Thanked: 27 Times	Thanks a tonne Finney. That seems a reasonable price as well.
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19th June 2007, 20:07	#138
binz Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,306 Thanked: 431 Times View My Garage	Why dont you just pick up a set of palio alloys,..the ones that come on the GTX,..they are 14" i think/..
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20th June 2007, 11:44	#141
moralfibre Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MH-12 Posts: 8,451 Thanked: 13,973 Times	Yes it is worth it! Looks better than the Aura design you chose.
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20th June 2007, 12:06	#142
finneyp Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,716 Thanked: 319 Times View My Garage	Thanks Moral, even I liked the design of OEM Alloys! Will go for the OEM then!
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20th June 2007, 12:40	#143
moralfibre Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MH-12 Posts: 8,451 Thanked: 13,973 Times	Ask them if they warranty this OEM alloy that you purchase. If they dont then rack their brains to give you a warranty . I would do that if I bought them from Fiat. If you want to throw your stock rims throw them in my direction please alongwith your worn out tyres. A friend needs them here desperately and will pay you a good price too. Thanks Kiran
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12th August 2007, 09:09	#145
amitsingh08 BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: mumbai Posts: 68 Thanked: 6 Times	Should I go for 185/60 as opposed to recommended 185/65 on 14" rims? Dear friends Reading threads on tyres has taught me a lot. I'm exchanging my palio 1.6 stock tyres for Michelin Energy XM1. But size is confusing. Question: Should I go for 185/60 as opposed to recommended 185/65? 14" diameter = 7" radius or 178mm (72.5410) (I've rounded to nearest mm) stock radius = 175.65 + 178 = 113.75 + 178 = 292mm circumferance = 222/7292 = 1835mm 185/65 radius = 185.65 + 178 = 120.25 + 178 = 298 mm circumferance = 1873mm (+38mm) 185/60 radius = 185*.60 + 178 = 108 + 178 = 286mm circumferance = 1873mm (+38mm) = 1798mm (-37mm from stock) 185/60 has advantage of shorter tyre wall, lesser deformation on curves, leading to better high speed cornering. As you can see 185/60 is closer to stock than recommended 185/65. Don't want 195/65 because of mild impact on FE. Palio 1.6 isn't known for fuel efficiency Comprehensive recommendations here http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...tml#post497430 Experienced members - advise please. Thank you. AmitNone [hide]
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12th August 2007, 11:59	#146
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 8,033 Thanked: 265 Times View My Garage	Amit - The possible options for upsizing in your car are: 185/60 R14 185/65 R14 195/60 R14 So yes, you can use the 185/60's since they'll give you a nice compromise between increased grip & also not have much effect on the FE. The difference in OD between 175/65 & 185/60 is -0.9% only so that is not an issue. 195/65 is not recommended since the OD difference is going to be 4.46% which is much above the permissible limits.
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12th August 2007, 14:05	#147
amitsingh08 BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: mumbai Posts: 68 Thanked: 6 Times	Thanks iraghava, I've confirmed 185/60 with dealer
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1st October 2007, 17:37	#148
FerrariRulez Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Cochin Posts: 1 Thanked: 0 Times	Upsize tyre size for my Fiat Palio 1.6 Sport Iam looking to upgrade the tyres on my Palio 1.6 Sport (from the stock 175/60 R14, alloys) to either 195/60 R14 or 205/60 R14. couple of questions - 1. Which is better upsize option? 2. Which tyre is the best option - Bridgestone Potenza G3 or Michellin 3. R these tyres V-rated? I'm willing to sacrifice a little bit of handling and grip for better ride comfort and tyre life.
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1st October 2007, 20:07	#149
WasavaTyres BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Indore Posts: 817 Thanked: 451 Times View My Garage	If you plan to retain your existing rims then I suggest you go in for 185/70/R13 tires. Will fit like a breeze.
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