Maruti Suzuki Alto : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread

Gansan · 29th November 2009, 10:45

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Originally Posted by abhi3284

My Alto is currently running on the Stock JK Ultima 145/80 R12 Tyres. Actually, i am also in a dilemma whether to change only tyres now and alloys a couple months later or do both later. Am still undecided. Lets see.

Then you better change the tyres at the time of fitting alloys. The exchange value of your current tyres may not differ much between now and a few months down the line.

abhi3284 · 29th November 2009, 12:11

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Originally Posted by wildsdi5530

Why do you want to change your tires at 11K? I'm running my Alto Lxi well past 30K on stock and going good.

The Reason for change is that i feel that the Ride is Bumpy and makes a lot of Noise when it goes over Potholes. I guess it is because of the Tyre. Also, it is not that Stable at High Speeds and during Cornering.

kpzen · 29th November 2009, 18:04

Get 145/80-12 Turanza ER60. Perfect for Indian roads.

Avoid 165/60-12. For Alto its a wrong size.

CrackedHead · 29th November 2009, 19:09

What sizes does Yokohama have in R12? If 155/70 R12 is available in Yoko then that would be the tyre that I would try.

I currently use Michelin XM1+ in this same size on my 800. I'm satisfied with it (though the price is somewhat high).

ravibhat · 29th November 2009, 19:19

If you upgrade tyres go for Alloys, If you stick to stock size then only you can fit the tyres on stock RIMs provided they are in good condition. I changed my Alto tyres to Michelin just because stock tyres were bumpy beyond the limit. With Michelin ride is excellant and performance is decent(60-75kmph is safe speed).

My pick is Michelin or Turanza in stock size.

Ravi.

Nikhilb2008 · 29th November 2009, 20:26

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Originally Posted by Gansan

Then you better change the tyres at the time of fitting alloys. The exchange value of your current tyres may not differ much between now and a few months down the line.

Really? Would you rather buy a used tyre which has run 80 kms or 8,000 kms?

Quote:

Originally Posted by kpzen

Get 145/80-12 Turanza ER60. Perfect for Indian roads.

Avoid 165/60-12. For Alto its a wrong size.

Second that. On the size front. I'm a Michelin fan and hate Bridgestone! So, I say get the XM1+ in 145/80 R12. Brilliant tyre for Indian roads.

Gansan · 29th November 2009, 21:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by abhi3284

This Shopkeeper is also exchanging my current Tyres which have run 11000 Kms for 800 a Piece.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

Really? Would you rather buy a used tyre which has run 80 kms or 8,000 kms?

I will never buy a used tyre!

But his tyres have already done 11000 KM, and a couple of more months may at the most add a couple of thousand more KM.
Will it make a big difference in the buy back rates?

kingofmyworld · 29th November 2009, 21:45

In michelin india website , For alto and 800 The max size is given as 165/60 r12 so that should not make a difference.

kpzen · 29th November 2009, 22:06

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Originally Posted by kingofmyworld

In michelin india website , For alto and 800 The max size is given as 165/60 r12 so that should not make a difference.

Non Precise info !
Stock size of Alto & M800 are different.

M800 - 145/70-12
Alto - 145/80-12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

Really? Would you rather buy a used tyre which has run 80 kms or 8,000 kms?

Of course 80 kms!

But, in this case the tires have done more than 10k kms. I guess u would also agree that once the tires have done that much kms the buy back value becomes almost equivalent to fully worn out tires.

kingofmyworld · 29th November 2009, 22:17

My bad, Bridgestone potenza G3's thing says 165/60 r12 goes in for both m800 and alto, I drive an m800 and im driving on 165/60 r13.
Follow the link for more info
Passenger Car Tyres & Automobile Tyres India I Potenza tires, Turanza tires, Dueler tires, Donut tyres | Bias, Radial, Tubeless tires

dr.faramroze · 30th November 2009, 17:38

@ kingofmyworld

Do you drive your m800 and alto on 13 inch rims? This means that 13 inchers can be used for a M800? oh thats wonderful because we dont get a large variety of tyre makes for 12 inchers.

Nikhilb2008 · 30th November 2009, 18:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gansan

I will never buy a used tyre!

But his tyres have already done 11000 KM, and a couple of more months may at the most add a couple of thousand more KM.
Will it make a big difference in the buy back rates?

Oh sorry!

My bad!

I assumed his was a new car. That is why I said he should exchange it immediately.

If it's already done 11k kms, then a few more months will definitely not matter!

kingofmyworld · 30th November 2009, 21:07

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Originally Posted by dr.faramroze

@ kingofmyworld

Do you drive your m800 and alto on 13 inch rims? This means that 13 inchers can be used for a M800? oh thats wonderful because we dont get a large variety of tyre makes for 12 inchers.

I run on 13" and for that i had to pull my suspension up by an inch, We hardly have any choice in 12" (both rubber and wheels) so i was forced to go for 13" . After shifting to 13" the ride quality and comfort levels came up beautifully. Even the look of the car changed a lot.

dr.faramroze · 30th November 2009, 23:37

what do we need to increase the height? spacers? please explain and guide as I am about to modify my M800 tyres. what about its pcd? which car rim fits M800? does the steering feel heavy after 165s?

Thanks in advance.

abhi3284 · 2nd December 2009, 09:22

I have nearly made up my mind to go for the Michelin XM1+ 145/80 R12 for my Alto.

However, i have some Concerns :

1) I have heard lots of Good things about XM1+. The only thing i am worried about is the Tread Depth of the Tire and i fear it might wear out very soon as it is not deep compared to the other Tires. Is this a long lasting Tire? I don't want to change them again after 20000 - 30000 Kms.

2) Is it Ok if i run the XM1+ on Stock Rims now and upgrade to Alloys after a couple of Months, which i am planning to as i am falling short of funds now. Any Drawbacks?Or is it advisable to upgrade both at the same time, say after a couple of months.

And finally,

3) Should i consider upgrading to 13" for my Alto or stick to 12". That would mean upgrading both at a later point of time. Is the Performance Improvement substancial on 13 inchers ?

29th November 2009, 18:04	#243
kpzen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Faridabad Posts: 5,610 Thanked: 1,876 Times View My Garage	Get 145/80-12 Turanza ER60. Perfect for Indian roads. Avoid 165/60-12. For Alto its a wrong size.
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29th November 2009, 19:09	#244
CrackedHead BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Seattle Posts: 585 Thanked: 81 Times	What sizes does Yokohama have in R12? If 155/70 R12 is available in Yoko then that would be the tyre that I would try. I currently use Michelin XM1+ in this same size on my 800. I'm satisfied with it (though the price is somewhat high).
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29th November 2009, 19:19	#245
ravibhat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,256 Thanked: 37 Times View My Garage	If you upgrade tyres go for Alloys, If you stick to stock size then only you can fit the tyres on stock RIMs provided they are in good condition. I changed my Alto tyres to Michelin just because stock tyres were bumpy beyond the limit. With Michelin ride is excellant and performance is decent(60-75kmph is safe speed). My pick is Michelin or Turanza in stock size. Ravi.
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29th November 2009, 21:45	#248
kingofmyworld BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Hyderabad / pensylvania. Posts: 816 Thanked: 536 Times View My Garage	In michelin india website , For alto and 800 The max size is given as 165/60 r12 so that should not make a difference.
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29th November 2009, 22:17	#250
kingofmyworld BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Hyderabad / pensylvania. Posts: 816 Thanked: 536 Times View My Garage	My bad, Bridgestone potenza G3's thing says 165/60 r12 goes in for both m800 and alto, I drive an m800 and im driving on 165/60 r13. Follow the link for more info Passenger Car Tyres & Automobile Tyres India I Potenza tires, Turanza tires, Dueler tires, Donut tyres \| Bias, Radial, Tubeless tires
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30th November 2009, 17:38	#251
dr.faramroze BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Valsad/Mumbai Posts: 157 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	@ kingofmyworld Do you drive your m800 and alto on 13 inch rims? This means that 13 inchers can be used for a M800? oh thats wonderful because we dont get a large variety of tyre makes for 12 inchers.
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30th November 2009, 23:37	#254
dr.faramroze BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Valsad/Mumbai Posts: 157 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	what do we need to increase the height? spacers? please explain and guide as I am about to modify my M800 tyres. what about its pcd? which car rim fits M800? does the steering feel heavy after 165s? Thanks in advance.
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2nd December 2009, 09:22	#255
abhi3284 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pune Posts: 279 Thanked: 438 Times	I have nearly made up my mind to go for the Michelin XM1+ 145/80 R12 for my Alto. However, i have some Concerns : 1) I have heard lots of Good things about XM1+. The only thing i am worried about is the Tread Depth of the Tire and i fear it might wear out very soon as it is not deep compared to the other Tires. Is this a long lasting Tire? I don't want to change them again after 20000 - 30000 Kms. 2) Is it Ok if i run the XM1+ on Stock Rims now and upgrade to Alloys after a couple of Months, which i am planning to as i am falling short of funds now. Any Drawbacks?Or is it advisable to upgrade both at the same time, say after a couple of months. And finally, 3) Should i consider upgrading to 13" for my Alto or stick to 12". That would mean upgrading both at a later point of time. Is the Performance Improvement substancial on 13 inchers ?
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