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Old 3rd February 2014, 13:06   #181
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The interiors are looking, if must confess, Sporty! Kudos to TATA for getting lot of things right. But just why, can't they offer electrically controlled ORVMs? Going by the press shots.
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Wow what a work from Tata, a Bolt out of the blue with the Zest 'iness of a young dynamic brand. Now I say bring it on. Really love the design and the best part is the Infotainment system in collaboration with Harmon.
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The production version :
On the Tata Bolt Hatchback-0_0_860_httpi.haymarket.net.augalleries20140203061523_tata.jpg

Impressive Driver Orientation:
Still, notice some buttons missing on the right side of the steering wheel.

On the Tata Bolt Hatchback-0_0_860_httpi.haymarket.net.augalleries20140203062051_zestintreal.jpg

Edit : During the launch, they were also talking about music volume increasing with speed.

Q) What is "Advanced ABS"?, anyone knows if there is any specific advancement in ABS?

Pic Ctsy : Autocar

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Very very impressive, well done Tata Motors

I like the Zest in blue, looks very sporty. Bolt seems to be inspired by Figo and Beat, but the end result is very nice.

Interior is revolutionary for a TATA car.

Zest looks much better than Dzire and Amaze.

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Wow, I mean seriously WOW. Good work tata. Way to go. AMT diesel will be a game changer in the industry . Now a serious competition for the CKD overpriced germans. Wait, the pricing not revealed yet. But then tatas have always priced their cars economiclly. Hope the car proves itself niggle free.

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I am happy with both the vehicles. As mentioned by other members already, BOLT seems to be half way away from the Vista looks. From some angles, it looks absolutely same as Vista, but some angles are fantastic and first-time for a Tata vehicle.

Zest looks damn good from the pics. I just hope these cars drive as good as they look.

I noticed one thing about Bolt. The initial photos show that the ORVMs are manually controlled, whereas the last production photo shared by GrammarNazi shows that they are electrically controlled. Hope they are electrically controlled in the final on-road version.
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Bolt: 15" tyres Vs Vista : 14"
Bolt fuel tank: 44 ltrs Vs Vista : 37 ltrs

Zest: 16" tyres Vs Manza: 15"
Zest fuel tank: 44 ltrs Vs Manza: 37 ltrs
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Official update on Tata Motors website - Media Centre section. Though models and details not listed yet on the website.

http://mediacentre.tatamotors.com/Pr...4#.Uu9I9_vkwR0

DESIGNEXT:
  • All-new Design language
  • New signature Tata grill with the Humanity Line
  • New front identity, dynamic silhouette
  • Premium interiors and chrome embellishments sleek cockpit
  • Striking all-new colours
DRIVENEXT:
  • Launching F-Tronic Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) technology for feather-light, finger-shift, clutch-free driving for the Zest, first-in-class for compact sedan
  • Best-in-class REVOTRON with all-new MPFi-Turbocharged, 1.2T petrol engine
  • Segment first EPAS, with Active Return function, speed-sensitive power steering
  • New advanced ABS for improved braking efficiency, with cornering stability
CONNECTNEXT:
  • All-new, next-generation HARMAN Infotainment System
  • New MapmyIndia next generation navigation & location based services
  • State-of-the-art 5-inch touchscreen to access music, video and more
  • First-in-class integrated HVAC with enhanced HMI for controls and experience touchscreen access.
  • Advanced Bluetooth, voice recognition, text to speech and phone-enabled navigation
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Found this in Tata Motors site....
Attached Files
File Type: pdf press-03-feb-14-bolt.pdf (974.6 KB, 1024 views)
File Type: pdf press-03-feb-14-zest.pdf (857.9 KB, 783 views)
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Zest fuel tank: 44 ltrs Vs Manza: 37 ltrs
While the Vista has a 37 litre fuel tank, the Manza always had a 44 litre fuel tank. The Indigo CS has a 42 litre fuel tank.
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But just why, can't they offer electrically controlled ORVMs? Going by the press shots.
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I noticed one thing about Bolt. The initial photos show that the ORVMs are manually controlled, whereas the last production photo shared by GrammarNazi shows that they are electrically controlled. Hope they are electrically controlled in the final on-road version.
My guess is these are for different versions - Base, Middle, VFM, Top End.
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Welcome change from TATA! They have got 2 decent looking vehicles.

The doors from the images look solid while the interior is a refreshing change. It gives a personality to the vehicle. The overall design also is not extreme which means it will be easily accepted across various generations.


Now this is part 1 of the problems addressed. The other areas where hopefully tata improves are

1. Interior fit and finish quality with quality of plastics
2. Uneven panel gaps
3. Poor reliability
4. Taxi segment adopting these new models
5. Both pre and post sales service

Did i see a mention of a diesel automatic coming? Boy o Boy!

Edit: Any news about Airbags/ESP/ABS? I can't see that on the dashboard/horn area. Option of 6 airbags will really be a segment first

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Compared to the tacky facelifts associated with Indian companies this is a very very well executed job by Tata. What I feared will be a Vista with a new grille has turned out to be one of the sportiest looking hatchbacks in India!!

While Tata's R&D prowess has never been in doubt, I sincerely hope they get everything else right. Turbo-charging their tried and trusted powerplants, an auto box, those interiors etc..Tata have an excellent blue print, now its a matter of execution.

Lets hope history does not repeat itself and Tata has indeed turned a new leaf!!
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P.S. Did i see a mention of a diesel automatic coming? Boy o Boy!
Yes you have heard it correct, the F-Tronic AMT gearbox was mentioned to be included with the Diesel mill as well as the Revotron engine. If it really comes then it is surely a game changer as no car in the current price segment offer auto gearbox for a diesel mill.
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Very very impressed by this vehicle.
Now all that's left is Tata to fix its customer service end and make sure the parts are of quality, hoping its not a case of all style no substance.

Big thanks to the late Karl Slym for his contributions.
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