Mahindra CJ340 joins Team-BHP family

headers · 6th July 2008, 11:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaggu

i wouldnt agree on the above by headers (lol gotzuk overtook me and posted my exact thoughts), (

Quote:

Originally Posted by gotzuk

i concur with you here, headers..
no point putting in expensive grease since the frequency of regreasing
is high. use correct specification grease, buy it in a bulk pack (it works
out slightly cheaper that ways) and carry it to the workshop where it is
to be greased. that ways you are assured that what goes inside the
joints is fresh, correct grease and not recycled crap, which in my opinion
can cause more harm than good.
another point to note is that high pressure hydraulic grease guns should
not be used to grease the universal joints as it can cause damage. manual
lever type grease guns are best for that job.
cheers

@ Jaggu: I dont understand, should that be you agree with my POV or not?

gotzuk and i seem to have a similar opinion and your statement dazzles me

Jaggu · 6th July 2008, 11:24

Header, let me make it clear.

Use good quality grease! Instead of road side, (referred as recycled by gotzuk) stuff.
Using good quality does make a diff in a jeep, truck, car or even a bicycle.
Good quality does not mean expensive/exotic!

Clear?

tsk1979 · 6th July 2008, 11:27

Good quality grease costs 30rs for a tube(castrol). I don't think thats expensive!

headers · 6th July 2008, 11:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaggu

Header, let me make it clear.

Use good quality grease! Instead of road side, (referred as recycled by gotzuk) stuff.
Using good quality does make a diff in a jeep, truck, car or even a bicycle.
Good quality does not mean expensive/exotic!

Clear?

Yes, am clear, thank you very much!

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsk1979

Good quality grease costs 30rs for a tube(castrol). I don't think thats expensive!

Well, by high quality, i meant greases that cost Rs.1000 /- per 100ml tube! That is definitely expensive..

But they last atleast 5 years in extreme temperatures [>80 deg C]

Samurai · 7th July 2008, 12:43

Yesterday MM440 (previous owner) informed me that the current one is a 15 plate 80AH battery with one year warranty.

BTW, I am supposed to carry Engine oil/ Differential Oil/ Brake Fluid during the next OTR. Can I just go with what they sell in petrol bunks? Is there some specific thing to look out for?

headers · 7th July 2008, 12:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samurai

BTW, I am supposed to carry Engine oil/ Differential Oil/ Brake Fluid during the next OTR. Can I just go with what they sell in petrol bunks? Is there some specific thing to look out for?

I generally buy the standard brake fluid and servo / bp / castrol engine oil for the jeep from petrol pumps. Am not too sure about the differential oil - will buy today for my 540 and tell you! BTW, are you in for the coorg otr?

nitrous · 7th July 2008, 12:57

Usually, crown oil and GB oil are universal.
I've used the same EP90 oil in my sumo, ikon and the 407s.

Samurai · 7th July 2008, 13:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by headers

BTW, are you in for the coorg otr?

Yes, that's the one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrous

Usually, crown oil and GB oil are universal.
I've used the same EP90 oil in my sumo, ikon and the 407s.

What is a crown oil? BTW, are engine oil and diff oil different for the Jeep?

Blue Thunder · 7th July 2008, 13:15

^^^ crown oil == differential oil (since differential housing contains crown-wheel-pinnion gears)

BaCkSeAtDrIVeR · 7th July 2008, 14:10

Oils - whether it is engine or crown, are specified by the grade (the SAE XX) thingie in the spec sheet posted above. Engine oils are usually 30/40 and what goes into differential / gearbox, etc are more thicker.

headers · 8th July 2008, 12:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by BaCkSeAtDrIVeR

Oils - whether it is engine or crown, are specified by the grade (the SAE XX) thingie in the spec sheet posted above. Engine oils are usually 30/40 and what goes into differential / gearbox, etc are more thicker.

Hence the differential oil is not to be used in the gearbox right?

Spitfire · 8th July 2008, 12:46

For Transmission, TransferCase and Differential(Front & Rear): SAE 90EP

For Engine: Multigrade 30W40

BaCkSeAtDrIVeR · 8th July 2008, 21:48

Please have look at Castrol Classic Oils

JIT SINGH CHANDOK ,Automobile Lubricants Goa - India

I am not recommending either brand.

From the specification sheet (and as per Guru Google Search), SAE 90 and SAE 90EP are different. "SAE", IIRC is "Society of Automobile ENgineers). There ought to be equivalent MIL and IS specifications.

dinar · 8th July 2008, 22:16

for brake fluid get a DOT3 or DOT 4 grade, nothing else, castrol is good for this, My experience with castrol oil for the jeep is, there is a little higher consumption of oil from castrol, HP or bharat or shell or mobil 20W40 grand oil if these are available on the petrol pump ,pick up a bran easily available , as the engine need top ups. [ do not go in for synthetic oil ], till you overhaul the engine, the oil consumption drills a hole in the pocket. as for transmission oil, get the recommended grad from HP or Bharat petroleum, they are good.

Sankar · 8th July 2008, 22:48

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Originally Posted by BaCkSeAtDrIVeR

Oils - whether it is engine or crown, are specified by the grade (the SAE XX) thingie in the spec sheet posted above. Engine oils are usually 30/40 and what goes into differential / gearbox, etc are more thicker.

Engine oils and gear/transmission oils use different SAE rating system and they're not directly comparable. 90W gear oil is only as viscous as a 40Wto50W engine oil.

6th July 2008, 11:24	#302
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,907 Times	Header, let me make it clear. Use good quality grease! Instead of road side, (referred as recycled by gotzuk) stuff. Using good quality does make a diff in a jeep, truck, car or even a bicycle. Good quality does not mean expensive/exotic! Clear?
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6th July 2008, 11:27	#303
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	Good quality grease costs 30rs for a tube(castrol). I don't think thats expensive!
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7th July 2008, 12:43	#305
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 25,828 Thanked: 45,557 Times View My Garage	Yesterday MM440 (previous owner) informed me that the current one is a 15 plate 80AH battery with one year warranty. BTW, I am supposed to carry Engine oil/ Differential Oil/ Brake Fluid during the next OTR. Can I just go with what they sell in petrol bunks? Is there some specific thing to look out for?
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7th July 2008, 12:57	#307
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	Usually, crown oil and GB oil are universal. I've used the same EP90 oil in my sumo, ikon and the 407s.
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7th July 2008, 13:15	#309
Blue Thunder Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Right here . Posts: 1,657 Thanked: 386 Times View My Garage	^^^ crown oil == differential oil (since differential housing contains crown-wheel-pinnion gears)
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7th July 2008, 14:10	#310
BaCkSeAtDrIVeR BANNED Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Kochi Posts: 2,522 Thanked: 752 Times	Oils - whether it is engine or crown, are specified by the grade (the SAE XX) thingie in the spec sheet posted above. Engine oils are usually 30/40 and what goes into differential / gearbox, etc are more thicker.
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8th July 2008, 12:46	#312
Spitfire BANNED Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Panaji - Goa/Bangalore - Karnataka Posts: 3,312 Thanked: 774 Times	For Transmission, TransferCase and Differential(Front & Rear): SAE 90EP For Engine: Multigrade 30W40
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8th July 2008, 21:48	#313
BaCkSeAtDrIVeR BANNED Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Kochi Posts: 2,522 Thanked: 752 Times	Please have look at Castrol Classic Oils JIT SINGH CHANDOK ,Automobile Lubricants Goa - India I am not recommending either brand. From the specification sheet (and as per Guru Google Search), SAE 90 and SAE 90EP are different. "SAE", IIRC is "Society of Automobile ENgineers). There ought to be equivalent MIL and IS specifications.
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8th July 2008, 22:16	#314
dinar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: goa Posts: 1,066 Thanked: 57 Times	for brake fluid get a DOT3 or DOT 4 grade, nothing else, castrol is good for this, My experience with castrol oil for the jeep is, there is a little higher consumption of oil from castrol, HP or bharat or shell or mobil 20W40 grand oil if these are available on the petrol pump ,pick up a bran easily available , as the engine need top ups. [ do not go in for synthetic oil ], till you overhaul the engine, the oil consumption drills a hole in the pocket. as for transmission oil, get the recommended grad from HP or Bharat petroleum, they are good.
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