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Old 16th July 2021, 14:24   #6091
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Hello All.

This is my first post on cycling, though I have been following this thread regularly.

Buying a comfortable and decent bicycle was on my agenda since last 2 years now. One as a fitness regime and second as leisure. I'm 45 years now and had consicous efforts to keep healthy. The last time I rode bicycle was when I was in 12th Std. It was a simple Atlas cycle, this was the time when we had only heard about cycles that came with gear not even seen one.

There were plenty of cycles and shops around and add to that internet info. I tried so many cycles with so many brands, but I couldn't find a single bicycle with a comfortable fit. Maybe my expectations on "cycle ergonomics" were not right. Whatever, spent days, months. Then time came to upgrade my daughter's bicycle as her height had increased. We bought a Fantom 24 inches cycle for her and during that purchase my eyes fell on one slender looking bike. The salesman informed this is a very good hybrid and I should try it. I sat on cycle and was like - this is it. Extremely comfortable fit and very light weight. This was Fantom - Zip Ryder Plus model. So that evening we got two bikes home, one for daughter and one for me. This was in January 21 this year.

Since then in last 6 months, we regularly go for rides on weekends with our small cycling group for rides with range of 25-30 kms. I have done two rides exceeding 50kms. One was to Panshet dam (55 kms) and one to Temghar dam (70 kms). The bike has been very comfortable and very light weight. With my daughter (11 yrs) and her friends + dads group, we have done trips of 28-30kms.

Cycling has been an immensely satisfying exercise/hobby and in current weather with clouds and slight rain its awesome. Last month I took another bike for my wife. So now we all three go on rides. I dint mind spending on cycles as I see this as an investment in health.


It took time for me to adjust. First thing was the damn saddle. Was just so hard that in just 2-3 kms by bum used to be sore. Couldnt imagine how can I cycle further. In school days the good old cycle seat used to be so comfortable. Then with some research, got shorts from Decathlon with padding. Also, replaced the saddle with a different softer one. This made a huge difference. This has enabled me to ride comfortably and easily ride 50-70 kms without any discomfort. It was a learning experience though.

Then I have purchased the usual must have accessories like light, safety reflectors, helmet, tool kit, portable handpump and spare tube.

I also spent some time with neighbourhood cycle repair guy - learnt to fix punctures and basic maintainence.

So this has been by cycling journey till now and the learning continues everyday.
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Old 16th July 2021, 14:59   #6092
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Is it fixable on the go?
No, it isn't. If the spokes from drive side are broken on rear wheel, you need specialized tools to remove cassette and then only you can change the spokes. You can't carry the tools in the saddle bag. If it is non drive side, you might be able to do it, but you'll have carry spoke key and spokes.

If a spoke breaks mid ride, I rarely realize it there and then. I have ridden frequently with broken spoke since I didn't know. Once in a while when I try to see if the wheel is rolling freely, that is the time I find out, or when it starts rubbing against brake pads.
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Can the experts here confirm here if its OK to ride a cycle with tires that have not been "in use" for some time ? I will inflate the tires to the standard ~50PSI and hope there wont be any tube/tyre cracking damage due to lack of usage?!?
If they are of good quality (Kenda/Maxxis/Bontrager or Indian with nylon cords at least), they should be fine. If old-skool desi cotton-corded, then beware - I had three spectacularly blow out in a single day last year, ripping the casings wide open and losing the tubes in the process. Nearby witnesses must have jumped, thinking a gun was being fired - they were LOUD explosions!!! (Ralco) seems to be making some ok "modern" stuff now with their Explorer series, but their older standard lines were frightfully bad when old - if I see even light cracking in the sidewall, I dispose them.

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You also seem to have a very pretty garden around you
I only wish it were mine!!!
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Durga Tekdi, Old Bombay Poona Highway.

That's the Bypass - Dehu Road junction up ahead, where the road goes on straight to Kamshet, Lonavala, Khopoli, Panvel, and Mumbai.

Great weather. But hope the Sunday ride has some rain.

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Loads of cyclists. Especially the pro road bike riders (services and Maharashtra state boys ... the paceline just ahead in the second photo).

Got wedged in the middle of one paceline as the lead guys passed me at nashik Phata, and just for fun I tagged along. They of course we're warmup spinning, early into their training ride, but we're really amused with the uncle on the blue Hercules inside their pack. Lol

Gassed out and lost them at the climbs on the big flyover finally at Bhakti Shakti Chowk, 10 km later, and some thumbs-up's later they were gone and disappeared into the distance.

Pretty chuffed at being able to hold their pace for that distance, which is an uphill drag. Even gor a PR at 27 kmph. Happy puppy me is.

Cheers, Doc

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Got Rockrider ST30 home yesterday. Perfect for my light usage. Did a small morning ride of 9 kms. All good except that sometimes I can hear a kat-kat noise from the rear chain side when I shift to higher gears. Noise goes away when I shift to lower gear and come to the same gear again. Any idea what could be the issue?

Didn't opt for any accessories as it was getting late. Things I have decided upon:

1. Helmet
2. Water bottle cage
3. Portable Air pump
4. Derailleur guard - if it fits (doesn't come out of factory in this model)
5. Stand (not particularly interested in getting one as I like clean and minimalistic look, but at the same time don't want that my bike takes a fall, especially at home. But will decide on it later).
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Got Rockrider ST30 home yesterday. Perfect for my light usage. Did a small morning ride of 9 kms. All good except that sometimes I can hear a kat-kat noise from the rear chain side when I shift to higher gears. Noise goes away when I shift to lower gear and come to the same gear again. Any idea what could be the issue?

Didn't opt for any accessories as it was getting late. Things I have decided upon:

1. Helmet
2. Water bottle cage
3. Portable Air pump
4. Derailleur guard - if it fits (doesn't come out of factory in this model)
5. Stand (not particularly interested in getting one as I like clean and minimalistic look, but at the same time don't want that my bike takes a fall, especially at home. But will decide on it later).
Celeste Blue! Love it. Bianchi will NOT be happy. Lol

Congratulations. Enjoy your new bike!

Decathlon have outdone themselves with this one really. A quality frame and gears in under 10,000 bucks.

Cheers, Doc
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Celeste Blue! Love it. Bianchi will NOT be happy. Lol

Congratulations. Enjoy your new bike!

Cheers, Doc
Thanks! The bike is really a looker! Looks even better in flesh. If I ever upgrade to a better bike or stop riding this then surely I am gonna hang it on a wall in my room

The idea is to change the fat tyres to some hybrid tires and the grip shifter to thumb shifters. But that's for later once I get bored of the current setup.

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Thanks! The bike is really a looker! Looks even better in flesh. If I ever upgrade to a better bike or stop riding this then surely I am gonna hang it on a wall in my room

The idea is to change the fat tyres to some hybrid tires and the grip shifter to thumb shifters. But that's for later once I get bored of the current setup.
On the tyres, I tried the same on my Hercules Top Gear MTB. To get more speed.

Speed did not really change much. But the ride quality went down. And the bike looked (looks) funny.

Like a muscle guy with noodle legs.

I changed from 2.25 to 1.95 and then to the current 1.75.

1.95 was best. With a smooth road tread replacing the original knobbies.

But use these lovely tyres first. Trust me, only undiluted crap is available in the market currently in the tyre space.

Tyres are gold.

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But use these lovely tyres first. Trust me, only undiluted crap is available in the market currently in the tyre space.

Tyres are gold.
Thanks for that valuable advice Doc . I am gonna use the current setup for a year at least. Will come to you for suggestions when I ever change the tyres.
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Some updates from today's ride. Guess pictures will do the yakking. Thousand apologies for the instagram hype

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I have some bad niggling pain in only my left knee. Its kind of IT band pain. If not for this, i think even a 100k today would have been alright. I am doing exercises to strengthen my knees through the week. Lets see how tomorrows rest day goes. No pain anywhere else with god's grace
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A weird day yesterday.

Had some free time so called the guys to get the medium size bike ready so I could come in and take a ride.

“It’s been sold”.

Yikes.

Okay, when will a new one be back in stock? They can’t say, because they can’t choose the sizes they’re being handed by the brands.

Nevermind.

Called the other store, in noida. They didn’t have it either. Hmm.

Get a call from the first, MGR store telling me that the noida store has the bike, and I should go there for a test.

“I just spoke to that guy in Noida not 5 minutes ago”.
Noida guy online: yes sir we have it.
“Okay, I’m leaving now, please have it ready in 30 mins. I wish to ride.”

Noida guy calls back 5 mins later, tells me to wait, as he wants to be sure it’s there. Wait, what? It’s a full bike, not a small bell. How do you not know if it’s there? I started smelling something fishy.

Calls me in another 5 mins, confirms it’s there, and so I leave. I’m thinking if this works I’ll pick it up and am already speaking to someone on the phone while on the way for a Sunday ride. LOL.

Anyway, reached, saw the bike, and it seemed fairly new but not “taken out of the box” new. The only wrapping was on the handlebars.

The guy gets on with setting up the bike. I’m keenly watching everything because I want to learn. And I spot a few oddities. The left brake lever is too loose, and dangly. The rear tyre has a wobble, and it is off-center, towards the right. The chain ring set at the rear is not the same colour as the front set.

“Don’t worry sir, we’ll set everything.”
To his credit, he did get rid of the wobble by adjusting the spokes, center-d the wheel by opening the quick-release and re-closing it by holding the wheel in position, and adjusted the lever to good enough but not perfect, like the right one.

Did some basic seat and handlebar positioning, set the gear and the brake system and asked me to take a ride.
Sure. I’ve been waiting. I’m excited. Is this it?

And I ride.

And it feels… normal. Not great like the first time.
Not like how I felt the first time. Was it just initial euphoria then? Was it rose coloured glasses? Can’t be. I hopped on and off that bike multiple times for multiple minutes and every time I felt that magic. Not feeling it here. Also the brakes were shit.

Plus this medium feels big. My arms are a bit stretched.

I tell them this. Fortunately they have a large that I’d tried a few days ago. That one gives a similar (magic) pedal feeling to the first one, except the size and fit. So it’s the “new” medium that’s the issue.
I inspect the rear chainring more closely. It doesn’t say Shimano anywhere. The one on the large does, and it’s black. The one on the medium is chrome. Hmm. Weird.

We take a closer look and the one on M says “suntour”. Wait, what? That’s not right.

“Don’t worry sir, we’ll swap it out with the large in one minute. You try that.”

And we do this a few times, swapping the tyres back and forth. But the magic is just not there. Plus the medium feels big.

I ask the noida store guy to call the MGR store where I tried the small. Based on which I asked for the medium.
Turns out, I was misinformed, and the bike I tried was actually XS.

“So I need the small”.
“No stock.”
“When do you think you’ll get it?”
No idea sir.

And there went my Friday evening.

I’m going to try the XS again today, the one that I originally tried and loved, to make sure the magic is real.

But how did the suntour thing happen? Were they trying to chepo me a ghapla bike? If that is the case, wonder what else was replaced.

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Great progress!

If you're doing IF, then black coffee is definitely allowed. Even if you don't have the coconut oiled bullet coffee version.

You might be grinding very tall gears. A common newbie mistake in the mistaken machismo of no pain no gain.

Try spinning with a lower torque load through your legs.
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Great progress!

If you're doing IF, then black coffee is definitely allowed. Even if you don't have the coconut oiled bullet coffee version.

You might be grinding very tall gears. A common newbie mistake in the mistaken machismo of no pain no gain.

Try spinning with a lower torque load through your legs.
Oh, i have other reasons to get off the black coffee in the morning. More to do with Cortisol production in the body. Wrong thread to go into this...but if you wanna know more maybe the IF thread? But will carry some black with me along with some snacks next time. Totally forgot to carry them this time.

No man, i was going quite easy. On the return trip, i went taller to get home sooner lol. I actually have recurring knee issues, thank god this time the pain is only in one knee though. Hope these exercises work.

How do you shift smoothly? I saw something about not loading the bike as you pedal to shift smooth. I need to get this down.
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Called the other store, in noida. They didn’t have it either. Hmm.

Get a call from the first, MGR store telling me that the noida store has the bike, and I should go there for a test.

“I just spoke to that guy in Noida not 5 minutes ago”.
Noida guy online: yes sir we have it.
“Okay, I’m leaving now, please have it ready in 30 mins. I wish to ride.”

Noida guy calls back 5 mins later, tells me to wait, as he wants to be sure it’s there.
If I may ask, which or where is the store in Noida?
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