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Old 26th July 2021, 11:45   #6241
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Ps: vb san, pls have these posts moved to a dedicated bike lube thread. I have reported this post.
Saw the reported post. There are many posts in this thread which talks about this topic. If there is a starting post which is buried in this thread (say from doc) and subsequent posts to move are provided, we can look to consolidate and move as a separate thread.
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Saw the reported post. There are many posts in this thread which talks about this topic. If there is a starting post which is buried in this thread (say from doc) and subsequent posts to move are provided, we can look to consolidate and move as a separate thread.
Yup. I had responded to a question on what lube I used. And the discussion evolved from there. Most if not all posts will have the word Squirt in them.

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Yup. I had responded to a question on what lube I used. And the discussion evolved from there. Most if not all posts will have the word Squirt in them.

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You will need to scroll back, click the report button for all such posts and the mods will do what is needed.

Else everything stays here and we continue as before!
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You will need to scroll back, click the report button for all such posts and the mods will do what is needed.

Else everything stays here and we continue as before!
Honestly do not have the bandwidth for that. Said as much at the outset. If there is a dedicated thread will move my furure posting to that accordingly. But going back one by one to each post and reporting them individually ....
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Honestly do not have the bandwidth for that. Said as much at the outset. If there is a dedicated thread will move my furure posting to that accordingly. But going back one by one to each post and reporting them individually ....
I agree. In which case I would think it is better to lock this thread for a while so all of us actively are forced to create new threads. Else this is just a fall back, and then oh, I didn't realise it until I wrote the post etc

There is no point in creating a sub forum if we don't actively encourage new threads there!
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Honestly do not have the bandwidth for that. Said as much at the outset. If there is a dedicated thread will move my furure posting to that accordingly. But going back one by one to each post and reporting them individually ....
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There is no point in creating a sub forum if we don't actively encourage new threads there!
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Saw the reported post. There are many posts in this thread which talks about this topic. If there is a starting post which is buried in this thread (say from doc) and subsequent posts to move are provided, we can look to consolidate and move as a separate thread.
It's not an easy fix at all, even if one considers only self-posts only. Till now, everyone with anything to discuss had just one thread to post.

I'd rather suggest some of the regulars (us ) create threads aligned to our strengths/areas of focus and requote past posts later (or take mods help to move the posts) to that particular thread.

Most important of all to the majority newbie cyclist members is a What cycle thread to post their "what cycle can I get in 10k/20k" or "How do I decide between MTB or hybrid" kind of queries. Or easier fix is to rephrase this thread accordingly; I'm sure >50% of the posts are of such queries and responses.


@vb-san, does it really matter that the posts have to be moved in the order they were created? As in say one of us creates a new thread (say for e.g. on cycle cleaning/maintenance) with a fresh post, can historical posts on that topic be moved to that thread? That way many of us active regulars can keep reporting relevant posts over time than one person expected to do the same.
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I agree. In which case I would think it is better to lock this thread for a while so all of us actively are forced to create new threads. Else this is just a fall back, and then oh, I didn't realise it until I wrote the post etc

There is no point in creating a sub forum if we don't actively encourage new threads there!
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It's not an easy fix at all, even if one considers only self-posts only. Till now, everyone with anything to discuss had just one thread to post.

I'd rather suggest some of the regulars (us ) create threads aligned to our strengths/areas of focus and requote past posts later (or take mods help to move the posts) to that particular thread.

Most important of all to the majority newbie cyclist members is a What cycle thread to post their "what cycle can I get in 10k/20k" or "How do I decide between MTB or hybrid" kind of queries. Or easier fix is to rephrase this thread accordingly; I'm sure >50% of the posts are of such queries and responses.


@vb-san, does it really matter that the posts have to be moved in the order they were created? As in say one of us creates a new thread (say for e.g. on cycle cleaning/maintenance) with a fresh post, can historical posts on that topic be moved to that thread? That way many of us active regulars can keep reporting relevant posts over time than one person expected to do the same.
I've started a new Drivetrain / Chain Care, Cleaning and Lubrication thread and given vb-san a list of all posts in chronological order. He has currently deactivated the thread to make the migration, seamlessly.

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Re: The Bicycles thread

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If there is a dedicated thread will move my furure posting to that accordingly.
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It's not an easy fix at all, even if one considers only self-posts only. Till now, everyone with anything to discuss had just one thread to post.

I'd rather suggest some of the regulars (us) create threads aligned to our strengths/areas of focus and requote past posts later (or take mods help to move the posts) to that particular thread.

Most important of all to the majority newbie cyclist members is a What cycle thread to post their "what cycle can I get in 10k/20k" or "How do I decide between MTB or hybrid" kind of queries. Or easier fix is to rephrase this thread accordingly; I'm sure >50% of the posts are of such queries and responses.
Agree with the above. Now that there is a sub-forum for bicycles, brand new threads of various topics will be ideal, and take the discussions forward in those threads. If there is a specific (extremely useful) information which was provided in the current generic thread, the member can always provide a link reference to that post. It will be much cleaner that way rather than revisiting old posts.

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@vb-san, does it really matter that the posts have to be moved in the order they were created? As in say one of us creates a new thread (say for e.g. on cycle cleaning/maintenance) with a fresh post, can historical posts on that topic be moved to that thread? That way many of us active regulars can keep reporting relevant posts over time than one person expected to do the same.
It will go by the date/timestamp and won’t be very clean

A thread on discussions on chain care, cleaning, lubrication etc. by Doc is in making. Thanks for providing the posts details.

Ownership threads, What Bike threads, Bike types, segments etc. can follow to make this is a repository of useful information.
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Re: The Bicycles thread

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Now that there is a sub-forum for bicycles, brand new threads of various topics will be ideal, and take the discussions forward in those threads. If there is a specific (extremely useful) information which was provided in the current generic thread, the member can always provide a link reference to that post. It will be much cleaner that way rather than revisiting old posts.
+1. In case people are looking for broad categories for thread titles that you want to create content for, here is a list to draw inspiration from: (courtesy Wayback Machine archives of bikeszone)

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Re: The Bicycles thread

Mod Note:

Please continue all the discussions on Drivetrain/chain care, related cleaning, lubrication etc. in the below thread. Related posts from this thread are also moved there.

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/bicyc...brication.html

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Mod Note:

Please continue all the discussions on Drivetrain/chain care, related cleaning, lubrication etc. in the below thread. Related posts from this thread are also moved there.

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/bicyc...brication.html
Very neatly spliced and done VB San. Kudos.

We have a neat addition to the Cycling sub forum. A very relevant one too coz even more than repairing punctures, this is one DIY skill every cyclist needs to learn quickly to have a smooth running bike for enjoyable rides.

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Does anyone know if riverside 120 is still available? I checked in 2 decathlons, it was not there. A friend said that it has been discontinued and he is having trouble getting parts also for his cycle.
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Update: Saturday morning I saw that the Whitefield store had stock of the ROCKRIDER ST 30 in Large size. Went down there but sadly they were not assembled and could not test ride them. They also did not have the RC 100 Drop bar available.

Test rode the following inside the store and TBH it did not help
1. ROCKRIDER ST 30 Medium size : small for me, did not have the stock saddle but the colour is still gorgeous.
2. Rockrider ST-50 Large: Being the first time riding a geared cycle, spent most of my time figuring those out. Seems like that if I seriously look at ST-30, this should also be revisited since its a model higher up.
3. Rockrider ST520, Large: Maybe it wasn't setup for me correctly, but did not enjoy this

Basically, made no progress so far. Will need to go for a longer test ride some other day.

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Does anyone know if riverside 120 is still available? I checked in 2 decathlons, it was not there. A friend said that it has been discontinued and he is having trouble getting parts also for his cycle.
Shows as available on the website - at least in one of the Bangalore stores. https://www.decathlon.in/p/8389398/m...8389398&type=p
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Well, the Altus/Acera rear derailleurs are definitely more rigid than the Tourney, so that's a good thing and may help alleviate the issue. Shifter itself may not be much different performance-wise, the integrated ones are considered pretty okay but I still prefer the non-integrated, and the conversion process is pretty painless, not much more time/hassle involved than changing a set of cables.

On that note might be worth a look at the cables, gear cable housing is supposed to be smaller diameter but sometimes mechanics put the bigger brake housing, and I suspect the extra slop in there can cause this issue. Basically if everything's not moving 100% freely and at the same time good and "tight" (devoid of slack/play), shifting gets compromised.

-Eric
Got my bike looked at yesterday as I discovered in the morning while getting it ready for the ride (air and water bottle) that it had suddenly literally overnight (after the previous night's 70 km ride in pretty heavy rain) developed a strange rhythmic knocking sound from the rear hub area. I thought my chain degreasing and rains and washing shenanigans had gotten water/degreaser into the bearings and created mayhem. Mech heard the sound and immediately told me it was the bearings of the freewheel.

Took the opportunity to ask him to look at the iffy shifting as well. And also align and tune both pairs of brake calipers.

This is what he found ...

The freewheel balls (40 grade) were replaced and the body cleaned and new grease packed in.

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The hub balls (40 grade) were replaced, and hub cleaned and new grease packed in This photos looks ghastly man (potty to peanut butter are the popular options) ... I had the rear hubs serviced barely a few months back.

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The balls are special grade and twice the price of the normal Phadke Haud quality balls. Should last much longer, and give better rolling.

Both brake cables inners and outers, as well as the rear shift cable inner and outer was replaced with Alhonga stainless steel cables. The inners in the photo are completely knackered ... lesson learned. I last had them replaced 4 years ago. Alligator. These are twice the price and much better.

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The dork disc was looking really dirty on a shiny bike so we cut it out (the rear wheel had already been fitted back).

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Narendra hard at work on my bike. I've known him for over 5 years now and his work is top drawer.

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The brakes were tuned. He feels I should replace these basic units (which are pretty worn and rusted now) with full alloy ones, because the adjusting screws on the sides of these go into a plastic body and beyond a point just keep turning and do not hold a setting for long. Also the spring of the right arm of the rear brake seems to be done, as it does not return properly, causing a bit of rub no matter how we adjust it. Shimano or Tektro would be around 800 bucks a pair.

But the braking now is unbelievable. Both the smoothness because of the brand new cables, and the stopping power, because of the tuning. I nearly went over the bars at Junna Bazaar chowk on my ride today morning when I dabbed them properly for the first time, squeezing as normal, not expecting the way they brought things to a halt!

The right shifter was opened and cleaned thoroughly and checked and the verdict was that it was in top shape. Which is a relief coz I'd like to keep this matched pair on my bike.

Finally the gears were indexed. He feels that the very slight delay in the upshifts from the biggest 34 cog down to 24 and then beyond, will become much shorter and quicker with the Altus rear derailleur. Other than that and the all=alloy brake calipers, of course the bike is due for a new crank, freewheel and chain.

Also discussed the possibility of getting a 36 hole free hub instead of the current threaded one, so that I can then move to better gearing options with 7 speed cassettes that unlike the freewheel have a top gear that's 12 (instead of 14) and both 32 and 34 lowest gear option combinations are possible. I know it all adds up but that (gearing) will be a big upgrade in terms of speed (right now with 14, its very common to spin out even on slight declines, leave alone a hill descent).

The verdict:

Today morning's ride was a revelation. The shifting is crisp and precise and never felt better in the 5 years I've owned Blue. Like the brakes, I shifted normally as usual initially and realized I was geting 3 clicks instead of one. Then modulated thumb input and got the click click slick shifting going thereafter! Brilliant. Got the double click max maybe 3 times in the entire 80 km ride, that too because i was sloppy (aggressive) in my shift.

Thanks a ton for your inputs Eric. In the end, as you got in bang on, it was the cables that made the biggest difference, everything else was hunky dory!

Cheers, Doc

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Saddle top to top of seat tube clamp:

ACT 110 - 23 cm

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CAAD8 - 19 cm

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Just in case I mess up the height or change saddles ... now I know where to look.

Cheers, Doc

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