ICE for my Linea

pradster · 7th July 2009, 14:12

Alrighty, time for me to step into the ring now that I have joined the Linea club as well

@prnvaa : any luck with the aux in/USB cable install? I have most of my music on my zune and I am in no mood of having to burn CD's One route for me is to install the aux in cable the other being to order the microsoft zune car pack.

What say fellas?

neotraveller · 14th July 2009, 16:55

@pradster,
If you connect the zune to the USB, does it not detect it as a storage device?
Has anybody connected a zen/iPod etc in thsi way successfully?

It seems a new Blue and me update is released. maybe this has better support for zune/iPod/zen etc.

DerAlte · 14th July 2009, 21:28

What is the connection between 'Blue and me' and Zune etc. connectivity?

pranava999 · 14th July 2009, 22:03

The jl audio cleansweep cl441dsp has arrived

. Now the wait's on for the amp.

Blue&Me : Where can the B&M updates for the Linea be downloaded from?

neotraveller · 14th July 2009, 23:35

Lineas with Blue&me system have a USB slot.

BTW I tried out 3 MP3 players by connecting to the Linea's USB slot.
ipod nano 2gb - worked
creative zen 8gb - Didn't work
Dell DJ 15gb - Didn't work

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Originally Posted by DerAlte

What is the connection between 'Blue and me' and Zune etc. connectivity?

The new update to Blue&me is here in international Fiat forums:
http://www.fiatforum.com/blue-me/200...or-review.html

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Originally Posted by pranava999

Blue&Me : Where can the B&M updates for the Linea be downloaded from?

VahanPujari · 15th July 2009, 00:02

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Originally Posted by pranava999

Blue&Me : Where can the B&M updates for the Linea be downloaded from?

check this out for B&M tech info- Blue & Me - Tech Info and questions and answers - The FIAT Forum

pranava999 · 15th July 2009, 00:12

@Vahan , Neo - Have either of you updated your Blue & Me?

EDIT: Was reading up on calibrating the JL audio cleansweep.Wondering if the calibration will work even on the USB source? Did not think about this earlier..

ghost_rider · 15th July 2009, 10:03

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Originally Posted by pranava999

The jl audio cleansweep cl441dsp has arrived

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Hey! So u went and splurged on the cleansweep.How much did it cost ?
I assume u'r going for a front stage sound set up ??

pranava999 · 15th July 2009, 10:53

Yes I finally did. Was not in town when it was dropped off by my cousin, so have to find out.Once the amp is here, I'm pretty sure my pay cheque for this month will be exhausted. God help me...

Options are wide open on the setup. Have options for either a 2.1 setup or a 4.1 setup.

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Originally Posted by ghost_rider

Hey! So u went and splurged on the cleansweep.How much did it cost ?
I assume u'r going for a front stage sound set up ??

ghost_rider · 15th July 2009, 12:50

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Originally Posted by pranava999

Options are wide open on the setup. Have options for either a 2.1 setup or a 4.1 setup.

How are you going to do a 4.1 setup? The cleansweep has 4 output channels, according to this image .

ghost_rider · 15th July 2009, 13:01

Also, what happens when you try and change the EQ settings on the HU ? Will cleansweep flatten that as well? If so, then the in built 7 band EQ in factory fitted HU will become redundant. What about bass and trebel settings? Will they be rendered useless too?

pradster · 15th July 2009, 14:50

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Originally Posted by DerAlte

What is the connection between 'Blue and me' and Zune etc. connectivity?

While blue & me seems to have built in support for iPods it lacks zune connectivity. This is partly because the zune cannot be accessed as a storage drive and partly because of MS oversight. You cant beat the irony that a MS product will work super with an Apple product but not another MS product!

The blue and Me issue is unfortunate as the zune does with the SYNC system that MS produces for ford ( I checked)

pranava999 · 15th July 2009, 16:20

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Originally Posted by ghost_rider

How are you going to do a 4.1 setup? The cleansweep has 4 output channels, according to this image .

Thanks for bringing that up. Will have to figure out a way. From what I understand the front and rear outputs go into the inputs of the amp.

What I have understood so far is that the cleansweep will basically produce a flat freq response for all four channels.If this is fed into the amp inputs wouldn't the high and low pass filters on the amp then come into play ?

ghost_rider · 15th July 2009, 18:08

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Originally Posted by pranava999

Thanks for bringing that up. Will have to figure out a way. From what I understand the front and rear outputs go into the inputs of the amp.

That's correct, but u will choose between powering
1)the front speakers and the sub
2)the front speakers and the rear speakers
3)the rear speakers and the sub.

I think you have already the 6.5 inch illusion EL6.1 component for the front and EL52 coaxials for the rear, so options1 and 3 not valid in your case. Even if you decide to add a sub later, where is the signal to power it ? I don't think you'll be interested in splitting rear channel signal and feeding another mono amp to power the sub(considering you took the "cleansweep" route rather than LOC).

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Originally Posted by pranava999

What I have understood so far is that the cleansweep will basically produce a flat freq response for all four channels.If this is fed into the amp inputs wouldn't the high and low pass filters on the amp then come into play ?

The X-overs in the amp will just filter the sound frequency(read cutoff and not enhance or suppress), so that the correct frequencies are sent to the speakers. The X-overs with your front speakers will take care of this. I've disabled the X-over in the amp in my car and use only the X-over that came with my front components. You have coaxials for the rear and here again, do you really need a X-over since u want to be playing out all the frequencies?

pranava999 · 15th July 2009, 18:37

Now I am seriously confused and lost

. I intend to use a 5 channel amp. I don't think the stock HU speaker level outputs have a dedicated sub level output.

So basically, wouldn't the cleansweep also function as an LOC as it can accept speaker level inputs and then digitally re-eq the stock system output to return a flat signal range across the spectrum to all four channels? Any help would be appreciated.
Gurus

BTW did you get the Linea ICEd, and if you did what did you do?

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Originally Posted by ghost_rider

That's correct, but u will choose between powering
1)the front speakers and the sub
2)the front speakers and the rear speakers
3)the rear speakers and the sub.

I think you have already the 6.5 inch illusion EL6.1 component for the front and EL52 coaxials for the rear, so options1 and 3 not valid in your case. Even if you decide to add a sub later, where is the signal to power it ? I don't think you'll be interested in splitting rear channel signal and feeding another mono amp to power the sub(considering you took the "cleansweep" route rather than LOC).

The X-overs in the amp will just filter the sound frequency(read cutoff and not enhance or suppress), so that the correct frequencies are sent to the speakers. The X-overs with your front speakers will take care of this. I've disabled the X-over in the amp in my car and use only the X-over that came with my front components. You have coaxials for the rear and here again, do you really need a X-over since u want to be playing out all the frequencies?

7th July 2009, 14:12	#136
pradster BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Delhi Posts: 292 Thanked: 16 Times	Alrighty, time for me to step into the ring now that I have joined the Linea club as well @prnvaa : any luck with the aux in/USB cable install? I have most of my music on my zune and I am in no mood of having to burn CD's One route for me is to install the aux in cable the other being to order the microsoft zune car pack. What say fellas?
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neotraveller BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 739 Thanked: 0 Times	@pradster, If you connect the zune to the USB, does it not detect it as a storage device? Has anybody connected a zen/iPod etc in thsi way successfully? It seems a new Blue and me update is released. maybe this has better support for zune/iPod/zen etc.
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DerAlte Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 8,035 Thanked: 2,920 Times	What is the connection between 'Blue and me' and Zune etc. connectivity?
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pranava999 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: BANGALORE Posts: 845 Thanked: 23 Times View My Garage	Update The jl audio cleansweep cl441dsp has arrived . Now the wait's on for the amp. Blue&Me : Where can the B&M updates for the Linea be downloaded from?
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pranava999 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: BANGALORE Posts: 845 Thanked: 23 Times View My Garage	@Vahan , Neo - Have either of you updated your Blue & Me? EDIT: Was reading up on calibrating the JL audio cleansweep.Wondering if the calibration will work even on the USB source? Did not think about this earlier.. Last edited by pranava999 : 15th July 2009 at 00:16.
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ghost_rider BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NEW DELHI Posts: 148 Thanked: 2 Times	Also, what happens when you try and change the EQ settings on the HU ? Will cleansweep flatten that as well? If so, then the in built 7 band EQ in factory fitted HU will become redundant. What about bass and trebel settings? Will they be rendered useless too?
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