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Vid6639 · 30th October 2006, 19:41

Sam,
Just saw the ad in ACI mag about the JBL bass tube being available in 10". Could you let me know the price in bangalore.

Also i needed to know prices of a few more JBL stuff here as i think i'm getting a very high price here at sprocket. for e.g. he quoted Rs.8990 for CS60.4 amp.

Should i e-mail you the list?

And, how about the details of the CS series compos pls.?

OT: just read the ad and was amazed to see "Rtech: What me? Dandiya?" LOL.

rajg · 30th October 2006, 21:04

Hi Guys,

Hows u all,

SOrry but am running against time.... n what i need is simple and direct answer... (sorry, am not audio-tech guy like u).

Am purchasing Fiat Adventure 1.6, mid nov... am not in india at present... Am planning to pick up nice car audio system from duty free at airport. Iam not keen on installing box or stuff like that in my boot space...
What i need to know....
I guess..Adventure comes up with provision of installing 3+3 speakers/...(am not sure)..
Which will be the right product .... which i can ask at the shop?
My conditions/ requirements are...

1. Remote with option of attaching on steering..
2. USB ready port.. ..along with MP3, cd, vcd-dvd player...
3. Option...for vdo display.. incase i want to upgrade it later...For some reason i will install that screen later...if i feel comfortable... but like to keep option open..
4. Is it ok to install imported stuff in indian cars.... any servicing...or maintanance..probs!

cheers,
rajg

Sam Kapasi · 30th October 2006, 23:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by vid6639

Sam,
Just saw the ad in ACI mag about the JBL bass tube being available in 10". Could you let me know the price in bangalore.

i think i'm getting a very high price here at sprocket. for e.g. he quoted Rs.8990 for CS60.4 amp.

And, how about the details of the CS series compos pls.?

Hello bro,
10" bass tube will be sold at 4990/-

8990/- is the correct price for 60.4.

The CS components were launched 3 days ago. There is only one model, CS2165C. This is a 6.5" component set. It is actually a GTO 6 series product. We have learned a lot from Ferrari F1 lol. However it only has an inline crossover for the tweeter, no external crossover.

It is amazing VFM at 4990/-

Iyer · 31st October 2006, 01:38

Hi team

what would be the best ICE setup for Ford Fusion
Fornt: Components
Rear :CoAx
Amp :
Subwoofer :
HU :
Budget would be max 20 Grands.
I would like to focus on clarity of music at decent volume.
Awaiting feedback from the team experts

( I am still in double mind about HU since i want to play it from my Laptop using a FM transmitter /iam more inclined on CAPPC since i have it since last 1 Year on my Honda City 1.5 EX
Car PC config
LCD 8.4" ( VGA in/AV in)( No Trouch Screen)
Haveit Palm Sixe Full Winxp Keyboard
Centrino Mprocessor based Laptop ( Without LCD Screen :-))
FM Transmitter
GPS/GSM security via RS232
Linux FrontEnd ( Customised Skinning )
OBD Scanner
WiFI
Camera with wireless Transmitter & Receiver ( always Problematic)
Interface with Parking Sensor.
Relay Board
Dallas Key Reader & Fob

(MODS : Please place this post in proper forum if i have goofed up )

Regards
Iyer

Vid6639 · 31st October 2006, 12:35

Hey Sam,

There is a product CS2165 which is a 2 way. I'm confused between the 2.

Is this the one:

http://fxaudio.com/caraudio/jbl-speakers-cs2165.htm

This is a 2-way if I'm not mistaken.

do you have any pics Sam bhai.

Sam Kapasi · 31st October 2006, 12:54

CS2165C baba.....

You will be able to buy it across Bangalore from today. Most dealers don't know it yet, so don't be surprised by the blank stare.

jkdas · 31st October 2006, 18:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

CS2165C baba.....

You will be able to buy it across Bangalore from today. Most dealers don't know it yet, so don't be surprised by the blank stare.

3 way compos? Sam, details pls
edit: its a 2 way

Sam Kapasi · 31st October 2006, 18:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkdas

3 way compos? Sam, details pls

NO NO Not a 3 way component!!! Sorry the picture is a little misleading. No we have 3 way components ONLY in infinity.

This is a CS series entry level 2 way component set. 6.5" mid woofer and tweeter. It is actually a GTO6506C (GTO 6 series, 6.5" component set) but there is no external crossover box, it is an inline crossover and the set costs only Rs.4990/-

This is the full detail. Happy?

revtech · 1st November 2006, 13:05

i have got the earthquake DB-12 R sub woofer.i need some advice on what size box it should be kept in keeping in mind it has to be kept in a zen under the tray ??

should it be kept in a sealed box or a ported one ? and lastly which 2 channel amp would be able to power it decently.

Rev

Sam Kapasi · 1st November 2006, 14:16

Here.... this will sort you out for the box.

As far as amplifier, I recommend a nice powerful monoblock. There are a few options available.

revtech · 1st November 2006, 20:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

Here.... this will sort you out for the box.

As far as amplifier, I recommend a nice powerful monoblock. There are a few options available.

thanx sam but thats greek and latin to me ? how much would a monoblock come for and any recomendations ?

hydrashok · 2nd November 2006, 00:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by revtech

thanx sam but thats greek and latin to me ? how much would a monoblock come for and any recomendations ?

revtech, you'll need to plug in those figures into a subwoofer box calculator. Google it. You'll get a lot of results.

navin · 2nd November 2006, 11:58

Revtech, I have not had the time to boxplot these numbers but gut feel tells me a 1.5 cu. ft. sealed box would be a place to start. The Qts is already 0.6 and in a 40 liter box (1.5 cu ft = 40 liters) you will get a small hump which will sound nice in the car (it will compensate to some degree for road noise). I will try and make some more time when I am well.

Vid6639 · 2nd November 2006, 21:52

Gurus,

My ICE setup in my alto LXi is given below. This setup is nearly a year old that is to say it is unfortunately a pre T-BHP setup.

> Headunit : Pioneer DEHP-5750MP
> Pioneer TS-G1011R 10-cm (4") dual cone speakers front dash
> Front stage : Kenwood KFC-ST30 Tweeter
> Rear Fill : Pioneer D690R 6X9 coaxial 2-Way Speakers(yellow cone)
> Amplifier : Sony XM-502 2channel amp
> Wiring : By some company called Pyle audio(any info on this brand?)

I mainly listen to Trance, Hip-hop, R&B, rock.

Based on this i would like to know the ideal settings for the amp and HU settings to get the best output. How do i tune the amp and HU? Currently I've let my ears decide.

Currently it does sound ok but would like to get your feedback on this. I know it will be difficult advising without actually listening to the setup but i though why not give it a shot.

Amp is set to 0.7V input level and is connected to the rear Pio 690R's. There is no sound distortion till volume level 25 on the HU.

The HU settings are as follows with EQ-EX enabled:
Fader:0
EQ-LOW: +3 (varies from +6 to -6)
EQ-Mid: +4 (varies from +6 to -6)
EQ-High: +3 (varies from +6 to -6)
Bass: +3 (varies from +6 to -6)
Treble: +3 (+6 to -6)
Loud: MID (low, mid, high, off)
Sub W: OFF
HPF: OFF

frequency settings:
Low: 80Hz (40,80,100,160Hz)
Mid: 1KHz (200,500,1K,2KHz)
High: 10K (3k,8k,10k,12kHz)
all set to Q1W (2N,1N,1W,2W) for Q-factor settings.
Bass frequency: 100Hz (40,63,100,160Hz)
Treble frequency: 6KHz (2K,4k,6k,10KHz)

I have done a lot of fine tuning to get to this point but still thought the best was to get some experts opinions.

I have heard not good stories about the sony 502 amp as well as the pio rears but am trying to get the best with what i have.

Are the 502 amp and pio yellow cone speakers really that bad? What exactly is the drawback they have?

How is the wiring by a brand called Pyle audio?

Mugen_Power · 2nd November 2006, 22:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by revtech

should it be kept in a sealed box or a ported one ? and lastly which 2 channel amp would be able to power it decently.

Rev,

Go for sealed box, it will sound better.
You should have to go for Monoblock amp from Pioneer Or JBL.

Mugen.

30th October 2006, 19:41	#4591
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,730 Thanked: 43,486 Times View My Garage	Sam, Just saw the ad in ACI mag about the JBL bass tube being available in 10". Could you let me know the price in bangalore. Also i needed to know prices of a few more JBL stuff here as i think i'm getting a very high price here at sprocket. for e.g. he quoted Rs.8990 for CS60.4 amp. Should i e-mail you the list? And, how about the details of the CS series compos pls.? OT: just read the ad and was amazed to see "Rtech: What me? Dandiya?" LOL.
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30th October 2006, 21:04	#4592
rajg Newbie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pune Posts: 6 Thanked: 0 Times	Hi Guys, Hows u all, SOrry but am running against time.... n what i need is simple and direct answer... (sorry, am not audio-tech guy like u). Am purchasing Fiat Adventure 1.6, mid nov... am not in india at present... Am planning to pick up nice car audio system from duty free at airport. Iam not keen on installing box or stuff like that in my boot space... What i need to know.... I guess..Adventure comes up with provision of installing 3+3 speakers/...(am not sure).. Which will be the right product .... which i can ask at the shop? My conditions/ requirements are... 1. Remote with option of attaching on steering.. 2. USB ready port.. ..along with MP3, cd, vcd-dvd player... 3. Option...for vdo display.. incase i want to upgrade it later...For some reason i will install that screen later...if i feel comfortable... but like to keep option open.. 4. Is it ok to install imported stuff in indian cars.... any servicing...or maintanance..probs! cheers, rajg
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31st October 2006, 01:38	#4594
Iyer Newbie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 7 Thanked: 0 Times	ICE for Ford Hi team what would be the best ICE setup for Ford Fusion Fornt: Components Rear :CoAx Amp : Subwoofer : HU : Budget would be max 20 Grands. I would like to focus on clarity of music at decent volume. Awaiting feedback from the team experts ( I am still in double mind about HU since i want to play it from my Laptop using a FM transmitter /iam more inclined on CAPPC since i have it since last 1 Year on my Honda City 1.5 EX Car PC config LCD 8.4" ( VGA in/AV in)( No Trouch Screen) Haveit Palm Sixe Full Winxp Keyboard Centrino Mprocessor based Laptop ( Without LCD Screen :-)) FM Transmitter GPS/GSM security via RS232 Linux FrontEnd ( Customised Skinning ) OBD Scanner WiFI Camera with wireless Transmitter & Receiver ( always Problematic) Interface with Parking Sensor. Relay Board Dallas Key Reader & Fob (MODS : Please place this post in proper forum if i have goofed up ) Regards Iyer
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31st October 2006, 12:35	#4595
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,730 Thanked: 43,486 Times View My Garage	Hey Sam, There is a product CS2165 which is a 2 way. I'm confused between the 2. Is this the one: http://fxaudio.com/caraudio/jbl-speakers-cs2165.htm This is a 2-way if I'm not mistaken. do you have any pics Sam bhai.
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31st October 2006, 12:54	#4596
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 6,997 Thanked: 2,378 Times View My Garage	CS2165C baba..... You will be able to buy it across Bangalore from today. Most dealers don't know it yet, so don't be surprised by the blank stare.
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1st November 2006, 13:05	#4599
revtech Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,992 Thanked: 38 Times View My Garage	i have got the earthquake DB-12 R sub woofer.i need some advice on what size box it should be kept in keeping in mind it has to be kept in a zen under the tray ?? should it be kept in a sealed box or a ported one ? and lastly which 2 channel amp would be able to power it decently. Rev
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1st November 2006, 14:16	#4600
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 6,997 Thanked: 2,378 Times View My Garage	Here.... this will sort you out for the box. As far as amplifier, I recommend a nice powerful monoblock. There are a few options available.
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2nd November 2006, 11:58	#4603
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,199 Thanked: 9,309 Times	Revtech, I have not had the time to boxplot these numbers but gut feel tells me a 1.5 cu. ft. sealed box would be a place to start. The Qts is already 0.6 and in a 40 liter box (1.5 cu ft = 40 liters) you will get a small hump which will sound nice in the car (it will compensate to some degree for road noise). I will try and make some more time when I am well.
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2nd November 2006, 21:52	#4604
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,730 Thanked: 43,486 Times View My Garage	Gurus, My ICE setup in my alto LXi is given below. This setup is nearly a year old that is to say it is unfortunately a pre T-BHP setup. > Headunit : Pioneer DEHP-5750MP > Pioneer TS-G1011R 10-cm (4") dual cone speakers front dash > Front stage : Kenwood KFC-ST30 Tweeter > Rear Fill : Pioneer D690R 6X9 coaxial 2-Way Speakers(yellow cone) > Amplifier : Sony XM-502 2channel amp > Wiring : By some company called Pyle audio(any info on this brand?) I mainly listen to Trance, Hip-hop, R&B, rock. Based on this i would like to know the ideal settings for the amp and HU settings to get the best output. How do i tune the amp and HU? Currently I've let my ears decide. Currently it does sound ok but would like to get your feedback on this. I know it will be difficult advising without actually listening to the setup but i though why not give it a shot. Amp is set to 0.7V input level and is connected to the rear Pio 690R's. There is no sound distortion till volume level 25 on the HU. The HU settings are as follows with EQ-EX enabled: Fader:0 EQ-LOW: +3 (varies from +6 to -6) EQ-Mid: +4 (varies from +6 to -6) EQ-High: +3 (varies from +6 to -6) Bass: +3 (varies from +6 to -6) Treble: +3 (+6 to -6) Loud: MID (low, mid, high, off) Sub W: OFF HPF: OFF frequency settings: Low: 80Hz (40,80,100,160Hz) Mid: 1KHz (200,500,1K,2KHz) High: 10K (3k,8k,10k,12kHz) all set to Q1W (2N,1N,1W,2W) for Q-factor settings. Bass frequency: 100Hz (40,63,100,160Hz) Treble frequency: 6KHz (2K,4k,6k,10KHz) I have done a lot of fine tuning to get to this point but still thought the best was to get some experts opinions. I have heard not good stories about the sony 502 amp as well as the pio rears but am trying to get the best with what i have. Are the 502 amp and pio yellow cone speakers really that bad? What exactly is the drawback they have? How is the wiring by a brand called Pyle audio? Last edited by Vid6639 : 2nd November 2006 at 22:09.
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