Spy Pics : The new Telcoline

sgmuser · 18th June 2007, 05:07

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Originally Posted by SUV

I beleive its being redesigned by TRU, Thailand and Not TATA .......

Whats this TRU? Are they too good in Auto Engineering? Better than TATA? Never heard...till today i thought Thailand is a low cost manufacturing place with some cute women around ;-) and nothing else!

ananthkamath · 18th June 2007, 07:43

If they give it the Borg warner transfer case I might consider buying it for my "hypothetical" farmhouse in rural Mangalore.

lurker · 18th June 2007, 18:55

Is the New TL Sprint going to be launched in India this year ??

ranc · 18th June 2007, 19:00

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Originally Posted by lurker

Is the New TL Sprint going to be launched in India this year ??

Yes this very month, and its going to be called Tata Xenon.

Mayavi · 23rd June 2007, 03:00

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Originally Posted by Trapezio

You should try asking a Thai what he think of India!

Who cares what a Thai thinks of India?

On topic:
How is the pick-up market in Inida? Does urban crowd buy them like they do in US?

sabret00the · 23rd June 2007, 07:41

since I first saw the Tatamobile 207 some 14-15 years back when it launched and instantly fell in love with the vehicle..as a matter of fact all the 3 vehicles from that range were fabulous and well yes I'm referring to the Estate,the Sierra and the mobile207...however the cars I believe were either well ahead of their times in India or had some reliability issues hence didnt see too much success in the Indian Market.
The Estate (I feel that it was based on the Mercedes Benz 300TD) was my personal favourite..I always wanted to own that car.Anyways coming back to the topic Tata was never really concerned in investing a huge chunk on money in keeping the Tatamobile project development ticking as India was a risky market for this kind of a vehicle untill recently.Anyways personally I used to the 1st version of the 207 twin cab TATA had launced..That vehicle had the old TATA insignia and used to look very rugged..only thing that would have completed the equation was the addition of 30"-35" wheels and enhanced independant link suspensions system...
Further,I feel the current interest that TATA is showing in the
Telcoline Range is a good sign...

BaCkSeAtDrIVeR · 23rd June 2007, 22:05

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Originally Posted by Mayavi

How is the pick-up market in Inida? Does urban crowd buy them like they do in US?

In Kerala, pickups are a great hit with the Liquor dealers - 207s, Maxxs, all are lapped up by this class for their good pickup and good speed. They need to outrun the chugging M340s of the excise/police department!!!

BaCkSeAtDrIVeR · 23rd June 2007, 22:10

After doing some research on Tata's passenger vehicles, I am nowadays beginning to suspect that they are using the foreign market to develop vehicles for India; unline most other vehicle makers, who bring outdated models here. I may be wrong; but dont think so.
Just look at so many of their models - this particular model, Indica DICOR, all first sold elsewhere and only then in India.

SUV · 23rd June 2007, 23:25

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Originally Posted by ranc

Yes this very month, and its going to be called Tata Xenon.

In all probability it will be launched as a 207 DI upgrade - Which Means the it will still retain the engine & Gearbox from the older version ....

sabret00the · 24th June 2007, 00:21

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Originally Posted by BaCkSeAtDrIVeR

After doing some research on Tata's passenger vehicles, I am nowadays beginning to suspect that they are using the foreign market to develop vehicles for India; unline most other vehicle makers, who bring outdated models here. I may be wrong; but dont think so.
Just look at so many of their models - this particular model, Indica DICOR, all first sold elsewhere and only then in India.

very well observed indeed...I feel this strategy of their's is working rather well...India is a speculative and sensitive market to actually develop an entire product specifically.
Instead if they launched a product in various markets in different markets and kept collecting feedback from markets and finally they shud have a product ready for India...in the process they shall break even in terms of investment on R&D on the vehicles as they wud simultaneously be selling the vehicles in these markets making the final price for India a lot more attractive

v1p3r · 24th June 2007, 02:50

When is it out? What engine? Anyone have any inside info on this one?

Monster_BHP · 25th June 2007, 02:26

Anyone know who does the TATA car designs these days!!! They are coming out with some really good looking cars. Is DC involved in the TATA design team?

sabret00the · 25th June 2007, 05:38

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Originally Posted by Monster_BHP

Anyone know who does the TATA car designs these days!!! They are coming out with some really good looking cars. Is DC involved in the TATA design team?

As far as I know they used to work extensively with IDea and ItalDesign to develop light vehicles in the past (like safari,sumo,709 and indica to name a few)..
As far as the design company for new Telcoline range is concerned I'm not sure which company is engaged.
None of the Indian cars till date have been styled (designed) in India so I dont think DC Design is involved..
If they need a designer with a huge portfolio then I'm free to help

SUV · 25th June 2007, 14:53

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

When is it out? What engine? Anyone have any inside info on this one?

Not out yet ... will be in aug - oct time frame with the 3.0 L DICOR, 2.2 L not confirmed yet.

tsk1979 · 25th June 2007, 14:55

So if safari comes out with a 2.2L engine 140BHP at around 7.5L this will have the older engine and will be priced a lakh lower?
But it would have been better to use the same engine in all MUVs as economies of scale push down costs.
Thats said 3.0L 115BHP Sumo Taxi is a scary thought.

18th June 2007, 07:43	#107
ananthkamath Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mangalore Posts: 1,209 Thanked: 81 Times View My Garage	If they give it the Borg warner transfer case I might consider buying it for my "hypothetical" farmhouse in rural Mangalore.
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18th June 2007, 18:55	#108
lurker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tura Posts: 1,600 Thanked: 1,438 Times	Is the New TL Sprint going to be launched in India this year ??
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23rd June 2007, 07:41	#111
sabret00the BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: YYC \| BLR \| CCU Posts: 692 Thanked: 55 Times View My Garage	since I first saw the Tatamobile 207 some 14-15 years back when it launched and instantly fell in love with the vehicle..as a matter of fact all the 3 vehicles from that range were fabulous and well yes I'm referring to the Estate,the Sierra and the mobile207...however the cars I believe were either well ahead of their times in India or had some reliability issues hence didnt see too much success in the Indian Market. The Estate (I feel that it was based on the Mercedes Benz 300TD) was my personal favourite..I always wanted to own that car.Anyways coming back to the topic Tata was never really concerned in investing a huge chunk on money in keeping the Tatamobile project development ticking as India was a risky market for this kind of a vehicle untill recently.Anyways personally I used to the 1st version of the 207 twin cab TATA had launced..That vehicle had the old TATA insignia and used to look very rugged..only thing that would have completed the equation was the addition of 30"-35" wheels and enhanced independant link suspensions system... Further,I feel the current interest that TATA is showing in the Telcoline Range is a good sign... Last edited by sabret00the : 23rd June 2007 at 07:46.
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23rd June 2007, 22:10	#113
BaCkSeAtDrIVeR Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Kochi Posts: 2,541 Thanked: 755 Times	After doing some research on Tata's passenger vehicles, I am nowadays beginning to suspect that they are using the foreign market to develop vehicles for India; unline most other vehicle makers, who bring outdated models here. I may be wrong; but dont think so. Just look at so many of their models - this particular model, Indica DICOR, all first sold elsewhere and only then in India.
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24th June 2007, 02:50	#116
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,353 Thanked: 7,091 Times View My Garage	When is it out? What engine? Anyone have any inside info on this one? Last edited by tsk1979 : 24th June 2007 at 15:43. Reason: Not needed now
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25th June 2007, 02:26	#117
Monster_BHP BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: chennai Posts: 190 Thanked: 30 Times View My Garage	Anyone know who does the TATA car designs these days!!! They are coming out with some really good looking cars. Is DC involved in the TATA design team?
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25th June 2007, 14:55	#120
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,726 Thanked: 23,058 Times View My Garage	So if safari comes out with a 2.2L engine 140BHP at around 7.5L this will have the older engine and will be priced a lakh lower? But it would have been better to use the same engine in all MUVs as economies of scale push down costs. Thats said 3.0L 115BHP Sumo Taxi is a scary thought.
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