The Heavy Trucks thread

directinjection · 31st March 2010, 14:23

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Originally Posted by Finject

Got me wondering where do the other companies, AMW, MAN or TATA have their plants

Tata: Jamshedpur, Pune, Lucknow, Goa (ACGL), Dharwar (Marcopolo JV), Pantnagar
AMW: Bhuj
MAN FORCE: Pithampur
Ashok Leyland: Chennai, Alwar, Pantnagar

Ashley2 · 31st March 2010, 23:49

For ALL - Ennore(1), Hosur(3), Bhandara(1), Alwar(1), Pantnagar(1).

Ashley2 · 13th April 2010, 18:49

A brand new AL - 4019 32Cu.M bulker with a NewGen Cab, making its maiden trip.

im_srini · 13th April 2010, 20:02

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Originally Posted by Ashley2

A brand new AL - 4019 32Cu.M bulker with a NewGen Cab, making its maiden trip.

Hi Ashley, since you seem to be 'in the know', with reference to your pic of the 'bulker' above, what is the significance of the rather odd design of the container (on the trailer) ? Is it meant for easy extraction (of what is contained within) or something ? Thanks...

DWind · 13th April 2010, 23:46

The truck next to AL (Nandan Roadlines?) has a really long overhang. Does it come from the factory or it was added by the Truck body-maker. If it is not part of the original chassis wonder it would be able to handle the stress. I know it is meant to carry a car which might weigh much still such a large overhang is trouble for stability and manoeuvrability of the vehicle.

regarding the odd shape of the AL bulker, is it to lower the CG of the load and add stability during cornering?

Ashley2 · 13th April 2010, 23:51

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Originally Posted by im_srini

Hi Ashley, since you seem to be 'in the know', with reference to your pic of the 'bulker' above, what is the significance of the rather odd design of the container (on the trailer) ? Is it meant for easy extraction (of what is contained within) or something ? Thanks...

This is to carry loose fly ash.The bulker is designed in such a way that it facilitates easy discharge while unloading.

smashnerd · 14th April 2010, 05:12

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Originally Posted by DWind

The truck next to AL (Nandan Roadlines?) has a really long overhang. Does it come from the factory or it was added by the Truck body-maker. If it is not part of the original chassis wonder it would be able to handle the stress. I know it is meant to carry a car which might weigh much still such a large overhang is trouble for stability and manoeuvrability of the vehicle.

That is exactly the kind of giant overhangs I was talking about earlier. I've seen DGFC, Varuna and Aggarwal trucks sporting those giant overhangs. It's acceptable when the truck's got twin rear axles but with a single rear axle, it looks to be quite dangerous.

Miyer · 14th April 2010, 07:57

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Originally Posted by Ashley2

This is to carry loose fly ash.The bulker is designed in such a way that it facilitates easy discharge while unloading.

Most bulkers we see running in the city carry bulk cement for the ready mix plants. The profile of the tank is such that every single grain of cement can be pushed out using compressed air (loading & unloading).Thus having any other profile for the tank will not empty the tanks contents fully.
cheers,
Miyer

Ashley2 · 14th April 2010, 23:01

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Originally Posted by Miyer

Most bulkers we see running in the city carry bulk cement for the ready mix plants.

One way it carries the fly ash from thermal power plants to cement factory and the other way it takes loose cement from cement factory to ready mix concrete plant

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Originally Posted by DWind

The truck next to AL (Nandan Roadlines?) has a really long overhang. Does it come from the factory or it was added by the Truck body-maker. If it is not part of the original chassis wonder it would be able to handle the stress. I know it is meant to carry a car which might weigh much still such a large overhang is trouble for stability and manoeuvrability of the vehicle.

The normal thumb rule is the FOH or ROH should not be greater than 60% of your wheel base. Here the vehicle seen is a 12m chassis whose base will be 6.2m. with this we get around 3.6m of ROH. In this case the chassy length is incresed by body builder with an extra flitch and cross member. Additional springs are also added in the rear axle to counter the weigth. Of course this will affect the vehicle performancec but still its done for the sake of running business.

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Originally Posted by DWind

regarding the odd shape of the AL bulker, is it to lower the CG of the load and add stability during cornering?

Defenitely no its only a functional charecter for ease in discharge of the material - fly ash/loose cement

kadri007 · 16th April 2010, 10:21

Yesterday I saw a Hino Motors tipper in Bangalore. The cabin has a AC. The truck just looks like the MAN truck, but a bit smaller.

There was a sticker of Cavery Hino - Dealership of Bangalore.

Transsenger · 22nd April 2010, 20:32

An AL "Artik4921" (6x4) tractor with cement bulker. The cabin is factory fitted one and with ecomet doors!

Mpower · 22nd April 2010, 21:26

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Originally Posted by Ashley2

Aggregates of AMW:
Cab - FAW
Engines - Cummins
Axles - Meritor
Gear box - ZF.
Wheels - AMW wheels.

Is the engine it similar to TML's version or anything different.

Ashley2 · 24th April 2010, 18:41

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Originally Posted by Mpower

Is the engine it similar to TML's version or anything different.

They are sourced from the same plant. There will be some minor differances which may not be that audible.

Ashley2 · 24th April 2010, 18:58

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Originally Posted by Transsenger

An AL "Artik4921" (6x4) tractor with cement bulker. The cabin is factory fitted one and with ecomet doors!

This is not a factory fitted cab but its from a ALL approved body builder. In this case I believe its from ACCL.
The doors, body side outers and even the rear panels are lifted from Cargo cabs. This is cleverly merged with the existing FES.

Ashley2 · 24th April 2010, 19:44

A newly launched Prima range of tippers - 3138.
Application: Deep mining operations.
Engine : 380 HP,BS3 complaint .
wheels : 12-24".
RR axle : Heavy duty boggie suspension.

Surprisingly they were not driven and been carried in a trailor(seems to be a common sight now a days).
I believe if it was driven it would have escaped from that minor accident.

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13th April 2010, 18:49	#183
Ashley2 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NH7 Posts: 2,115 Thanked: 1,524 Times View My Garage	AshokLeyland - 4019 with NewGen Cab A brand new AL - 4019 32Cu.M bulker with a NewGen Cab, making its maiden trip. Last edited by Ashley2 : 13th April 2010 at 19:03.
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DWind BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Singara Chennai Posts: 804 Thanked: 238 Times View My Garage	The truck next to AL (Nandan Roadlines?) has a really long overhang. Does it come from the factory or it was added by the Truck body-maker. If it is not part of the original chassis wonder it would be able to handle the stress. I know it is meant to carry a car which might weigh much still such a large overhang is trouble for stability and manoeuvrability of the vehicle. regarding the odd shape of the AL bulker, is it to lower the CG of the load and add stability during cornering? Last edited by DWind : 13th April 2010 at 23:49. Reason: additional comment
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16th April 2010, 10:21	#190
kadri007 BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bangalore/Mangalore Posts: 433 Thanked: 7 Times	Yesterday I saw a Hino Motors tipper in Bangalore. The cabin has a AC. The truck just looks like the MAN truck, but a bit smaller. There was a sticker of Cavery Hino - Dealership of Bangalore.
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Transsenger BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: KOCHI Posts: 368 Thanked: 96 Times	Artik 4921 An AL "Artik4921" (6x4) tractor with cement bulker. The cabin is factory fitted one and with ecomet doors! Attached Thumbnails
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24th April 2010, 19:44	#195
Ashley2 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NH7 Posts: 2,115 Thanked: 1,524 Times View My Garage	Prima 3138 - 8X4 Tipper A newly launched Prima range of tippers - 3138. Application: Deep mining operations. Engine : 380 HP,BS3 complaint . wheels : 12-24". RR axle : Heavy duty boggie suspension. Surprisingly they were not driven and been carried in a trailor(seems to be a common sight now a days). I believe if it was driven it would have escaped from that minor accident.
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