[fifthwheel]

Originally Posted by Trapezio

Comparing the trailers the lower half of the cabs (fog lamps, central wedges, mid-air scoops) are quite similar IMO.

Exactly. Add that to the side profile esp. the fenders & wheel arches.

[Ashley2]

Originally Posted by fifthwheel

Your SWIFTy's 1/2 3/4 view is really good. Of course the 2523 looks really massive with the NEWGEN cab &the high lifted H/Ls. Nice photos

Thanks a lot buddy.

[fifthwheel]

Originally Posted by fx45

That army truck looks more or less like the civilian version of that vehicle itself except the front bumper..

I feel the bumper is used in the 3516 tractors.

A I could not spot any of the services regn. no on the side of the cab (but for the half visible thing on the front.

[smashnerd]

@ fifthwheel - I found it in the Naval Base, so it's most probably an unmodified civilian truck. It was driven by the contracted workers there and not by defence personnel.

[kadri007]

Originally Posted by Ashley2

This seems to be direct lift from the civilian version painted it in Military green.
Also this should be a model some where in 2002 or earlier as this has a twin spilt windscreen.

It is definitely a Military truck and not a civilian truck.

If you look at the number plate the UP arrow mark indicates its a military vehicle and the next two letters indicates the year in which it was commissioned into the army.

So its a 2004 Tata Military truck.

It would have bought some equipment from some army base. Some of these trailers are used to transport bulldozers and other road making equipments also.

[Ashley2]

Originally Posted by kadri007

It is definitely a Military truck and not a civilian truck.

If you look at the number plate the UP arrow mark indicates its a military vehicle and the next two letters indicates the year in which it was commissioned into the army.

So its a 2004 Tata Military truck.

I told 2002 as those models were availble since then.. but later the same cab was changed to singel windshield.
Further I told civilian as the vehicle construction wise it did not have any special features and it resembled civilian version

[conjon]

Originally Posted by Trapezio

Comparing the trailers the lower half of the cabs (fog lamps, central wedges, mid-air scoops) are quite similar IMO.

Originally Posted by fifthwheel

Exactly. Add that to the side profile esp. the fenders & wheel arches.

Well if u look care fully at the tilt cab (side profile of newgen not the lower fixed parts such as the bumper),there seems to be a striking resemblance to iveco cargo cabs IMO.
Even I recognized this after i was reading about newgen cab on Biglorryblog.com.

Front contouring seems to be entirely different for newgen tilt cab.(check the pic).Exclude the grill.

GINAF trucks and Kamaz (for a short period in mid 90's) used DAF cabs.(pictured)
GINAF uses DAF CF cabs and Kamaz used DAF 95 series cab.

Another fact is that British leyland was taken over by DAF and now both are owned by Paccar inc the the owner of Kenworth and Peterbilt trucks.

I think AL would have taken some design ideas from DAF for the cab.I'm definitely positive that DAF is the older cab.

[Trapezio]

@@conjon

The cab from DAF is definitely older than AL. That cab is heavily used across the DAF range. I mentioned the CF explicitly because size wise thats the closest to Newgen cabs.

[Ashley2]

Any idea how much is the GVW of the Ginaf 10x4 truck?

[conjon]

GVW for GINAF 10x4 is 55.2tonnes and payload capability is 42.5 tonnes.

[Ashley2]

Is there any formulation behind GVW of 55.2T as I dont understand the logic.
Here in India
FA(6)+RA(10)=16T (4X2)
FA(6)+RA1(10)+RA2(9)=25T(6X4)
FA1(6)+FA2(6)+RA1(10)+RA2(9)=31(8x2)
With this logic for this truck(10X4) it cannot be more than 37T.
Can you help me in understanding better

[conjon]

Originally Posted by Ashley2

Is there any formulation behind GVW of 55.2T as I dont understand the logic.
Here in India
FA(6)+RA(10)=16T (4X2)
FA(6)+RA1(10)+RA2(9)=25T(6X4)
FA1(6)+FA2(6)+RA1(10)+RA2(9)=31(8x2)
With this logic for this truck(10X4) it cannot be more than 37T.
Can you help me in understanding better

I think that would be:
FA1(9)+FA2(9)+SA(10)+RA1(13)+RA2(14.3)=55.3(10x4)
FA1(steered)+FA2(steered)+SA(sensing axle)+RA1(driven)+RA2(tandem)
Please check : Error!
Look for tandem and sensaxle.

Here is a 12x10

[conjon]

RA2 mentioned in the above mentioned post is driven as well.

[Ashley2]

Originally Posted by conjon

I think that would be:
FA1(9)+FA2(9)+SA(10)+RA1(13)+RA2(14.3)=55.3(10x4)
FA1(steered)+FA2(steered)+SA(sensing axle)+RA1(driven)+RA2(tandem)
Please check : Error!
Look for tandem and sensaxle.

Here is a 12x10

Is that a correct logic or a mere addition.

[conjon]

Originally Posted by Ashley2

Is that a correct logic or a mere addition.

please, check the website.