[Shreyans_Jain]

They haven’t priced this to sell. The base car is already 5 years old, is a relatively slow seller as compared to its peers and comes with a pretty dated cabin even by 2019 standards. The manufacturer has zero track record of mass market EVs and a reputation for all kinds of niggles with their new launches. It is also missing a lot of equipment as compared to the Nexon EV.

How the NiMH batteries hold up and perform in typical Indian conditions also remains to be seen. We’ve had early model Nexon EVs hitting 6 figures on the odometer and running well. Tata has had 3 years of real world EV experience that has seen plenty of refinement, changes and optimisation. That, and access to actual driving data from tens of thousands of customers. Mahindra will have to catch up on all this.

[fordday]

Originally Posted by RaghuVis

As per Autocar India, XUV prices are available! I am wondering why such a low-key price reveal. It also says that this holds good only for the first 5K bookings.

I remember there is a clause in FAME 2 subsidy that the ex showroom cost cannot exceed 15 lakh to be eligible for subsidy.

Is it not the case anymore? Or XUV400 is not seeking subsidy?

[sagsaw]

Originally Posted by RaghuVis

As per Autocar India, XUV prices are available! I am wondering why such a low-key price reveal. It also says that this holds good only for the first 5K bookings.

Prices stable for first 5k bookings per variant is what I have read .

[sri_tesla]

Originally Posted by Shreyans_Jain

They haven’t priced this to sell. The base car is already 5 years old, is a relatively slow seller as compared to its peers and comes with a pretty dated cabin even by 2019 standards. The manufacturer has zero track record of mass market EVs and a reputation for all kinds of niggles with their new launches. It is also missing a lot of equipment as compared to the Nexon EV.

How the NiMH batteries hold up and perform in typical Indian conditions also remains to be seen.

It doesn’t have NiMH batteries. It has NMC batteries which are being used in 90% of the EV models by European (VW, Škoda, Audi, Porsche, Stellantis, Jaguar, Mercedes, BMW, etc…)and US brands (Ford, GM, Rivian, Lucid, etc…)

While the interiors are dated, I don’t think it’s much different from Nexon’s. It definitely has advantages like performance, bigger space, better safety equipment over Nexon which will attract many buyers of Nexon EV. For the last few months, Nexon EV sales are stagnant despite the launch of Max with bigger battery. XUV400 will definitely affect Nexon sales to some extent. Competition is good for consumers in the end.

[sagsaw]

Originally Posted by Shreyans_Jain

They haven’t priced this to sell. The base car is already 5 years old, is a relatively slow seller as compared to its peers and comes with a pretty dated cabin even by 2019 standards. The manufacturer has zero track record of mass market EVs and a reputation for all kinds of niggles with their new launches. It is also missing a lot of equipment as compared to the Nexon EV.

3 years ago Tata was also new, some horror stories even today. EV is a new sector in auto industry and most will be new in that sector without any track record.

Most auto manufacturers have niggles with new launches one google search reveals it, although depending on which manufacturer has less or more clout and better PR agencies to take care of the negative publicity, results could vary.

For now its celebration time one more mainstream passenger auto maker launches an EV.

And Citroen also has revealed its eC3 today.

[Venkatesh]

Here's how the XUV400 stacks up against the Tata Nexon EV, MG ZS EV and Hyundai Kona Electric.

[HammerHead]

Originally Posted by sri_tesla

While the interiors are dated, I don’t think it’s much different from Nexon’s. It definitely has advantages like performance, bigger space, better safety equipment over Nexon which will attract many buyers of Nexon EV. For the last few months, Nexon EV sales are stagnant despite the launch of Max with bigger battery. XUV400 will definitely affect Nexon sales to some extent. Competition is good for consumers in the end.

Then the question is why the ICE version with similar 'strengths' over Nexon did not affect Nexon ICE's sales figures?

I feel M&M should have updated the interiors. Too dated for a car that's launched in 2023!!

Or they should have undercut the Nexon with considerable margin.

[XRoader_001]

Xuv400 Official Press release by Mahindra.

[Bajirao]

Who is finalizing variants at M&M?
At 16.49L, they aren't providing Alloy wheels, Infotainment system, A&A carplays, Cruise control, Keyless entry, Auto headlamp & wipers, Rear wipers.
Nexon suddenly feels more VFM !!

[Geta]

Originally Posted by HammerHead

Then the question is why the ICE version with similar 'strengths' over Nexon did not affect Nexon ICE's sales figures?

Very unnecessary statement. sri_tesla was just stating the facts. You are comparing Nexon ICE to XUV300. He was comparing XUV400 to Nexon EV, which is indeed more spacious (4200mm vs 4000 mm), faster ( 0-100 times of 8.3 sec vs 9.xx sec) and safer (5* safety, 6 airbags vs 2 airbags), and he was accurate.

Before you expect XUV400 to undercut Nexon, that too "with a considerable margin", I request you to have a look at the vehicle in person. Going by the numbers, XUV400 is supposed to be the size of Skoda Kushaq/MG Astor/VW Taigun and not the size of Nexon/Sonet/Venue. Except the price, nothing is similar between Nexon and XUV400. Hence I feel Mahindra doesn't really need to undercut Nexon EV here.

Personally I feel the top variant of XUV400 at Rs. 18.99 lacs is tremendous value for money over Nexon EV max and MG ZS EV.

Let us not allow passion to rule over reason.
Thanks.

[SKC-auto]

Good pricing, this car has the potential to take away atleast half of the buyers from Nexon EV. The top end version is less than a lakh compared to NEV, time for tata to either reduce the price by 1 -1.5 lakh or give 6 airbags to match XUV400.

Originally Posted by vinvin

Looks like there isn't cruise control as well!

Cruise control is present on the media test vehicle in the post #1 on this same thread, so I believe atleast the top end will get CC.

[srh]

Originally Posted by HammerHead

Then the question is why the ICE version with similar 'strengths' over Nexon did not affect Nexon ICE's sales figures?

XUV3OO sells lesser than Nexon petrol/ diesel mostly because of lack of boot space and somewhat higher pricing. Otherwise it is the better product amongst the two.

The XUV4OO remedies the boot space issue. Thus is a superior product to Nexon EV on multiple aspects - space, performance, safety (and maybe suspension)

[Asoon]

M&M should have gone to the fresh design board for XUV 400. Brand XUV is strong because of the predecessors [500 & 700] and the car carrying this badge should have the 'the XUV presence'. 300 was already a weak project which failed to attract buyers.

They were building literally a new car, structural changes for EV components, 3.9 to 4.2 meter extension but having a mediocre XUV300 wraparound is strange. They had opportunity to enter into Creta segment (launch fresh 400 EV then 400 ICE)

Play book of EV says that, build a car which feels out of the this world, launch it at exorbitant prices (make it aspirational) and make your EV brand aspirational and then enter mass market segment with a toned down avatar of "out of the world version". Nexon has the same issue, minor difference with regular Nexon.

I love what TATA is doing with Curvv and Sierra or what Mahindra showcased few months ago in form of XUV e8/9 and BE series or what OLA did with S1/ S1 Pro, but this XUV400 is a half hearted approach.

[DonHyd]

As the power and torque figures are same despite the difference in battery capacity, I guess there will not be any difference in the performance between the two variants.

I am not able to decide whether this is a good pricing or not.

[lapis_lazuli]

Originally Posted by shyampsunder

2. For buyers looking for a second car, the 34.5 kWh battery with 3.3 kW charger is a no-brainer. Apart from the price, given the smaller battery, overnight charging is sufficient. No need to approach EB for load increase given that most houses have 3-5 kW of load sanctioned. The higher load also comes with higher per-month fixed charges.

In summer, or with 2 ACs running, the 3-5kw EB connection will trip with the EV also plugged for overnight charging. Better to enhance EB connection capacity.