[boniver]

Originally Posted by saket77

People are disappointed with 12Mini's battery life but I still need to charge it once in 2 days- don't know how & why

I had the 13 Mini (loved the size) but needed to charge it atleast twice a day. Sold it in 6 months and moved back to Android. My current S20 also needs to be charged twice a day but I atleast don't feel guilty about having spent so much money on an iPhone and still having to charge it as often as I charge a 4 y/o Samsung.

[ashish2135]

My Iphone 14 pro which is almost 2 years has already reached 84% Battery health. My work requires constant use of phone calls and Whatsapp messages. The battery percentage reaches as low as 30% on most days by 2:30 pm. It is a big let down. I upgraded from an Iphone 11 which was facing similar issue in its 3rd year. Apparently Iphone 11 and 14 Pro have both 3200mAh battery capacity. T

I wonder if my next phone should be a Google Pixel but then I am completely engrossed in the Apple ecosystem and nothing can beat the use of the Iphone.

[AJ56]

Originally Posted by poloman

This battery health percentage is a big scam pulled by Apple to make the customers insecure about the battery life and go for battery replacement even if it is not warranted.
Battery replacement with 80% health? What is the meaning of this? You can only use battery for 20% of its health and then replace it? This is exactly what apple want.

I’m all for not stressing about battery health on a mobile device as you simply carry a power bank every time you leave home, in addition to having power available in your car, it’s a non issue.

But I fail to see how it’s a scam. Lithium batteries degrade, it’s an undisputed scientific fact. Be it a phone, an EV, laptop, anything with a battery.

You would rather Apple keep us in the dark and not mention the battery health? I’m all for more info, not less. Battery health, cycle count, nominal and max battery capacity should be shown in all iPhones I feel.

(Battery health dipping below 80% doesn’t mean any performance degradation, just run a Geekbench CPU and graphics test to verify what I’m saying, you can keep using the phone well past 80%.)

[somersault]

My battery health is 100% for a 1 year old Iphone 15 pro max. My wife's phone is 14 plus and its health is at 90%. The difference is, I keep the max charging limit at 80% for office days. When I am out, I make it to 100%. Such a feature is not available in 14 series or before. I believe this has maintained my battery life.

[sumathindra]

Originally Posted by somersault

My battery health is 100% for a 1 year old Iphone 15 pro max. My wife's phone is 14 plus and its health is at 90%. The difference is, I keep the max charging limit at 80% for office days. When I am out, I make it to 100%. Such a feature is not available in 14 series or before. I believe this has maintained my battery life.

I just got the iPhone 15 last month. Read a few posts on the concept of keeping the limit at 80%, however was not really sure if should adopt it. After reading your post, decided to give it a try and made it at 80%. Lets see how it goes and does it really hold at a good 100% after a year! On second thoughts in case of need, do you charge in between or its one charge a day?

[poloman]

Originally Posted by AJ56

But I fail to see how it’s a scam. Lithium batteries degrade, it’s an undisputed scientific fact. Be it a phone, an EV, laptop, anything with a battery.



(Battery health dipping below 80% doesn’t mean any performance degradation, just run a Geekbench CPU and graphics test to verify what I’m saying, you can keep using the phone well past 80%.)

Scam is when you see this. 90% of iPhone users are not technically savvy and they will run to replace the battery.

I just got the iPhone 15 last month. Read a few posts on the concept of keeping the limit at 80%, however was not really sure if should adopt it. After reading your post, decided to give it a try and made it at 80%. Lets see how it goes and does it really hold at a good 100% after a year! On second thoughts in case of need, do you charge in between or its one charge a day?

So you are essentially running with 80% peak capacity for saving the battery in the future which may any way be 80% after 2-3 years. After which you may anyway sell or replace the phone. For the whole life of the phone you end up using 80% of its battery and the person who got it when you upgrade got lucky.

[sumathindra]

Originally Posted by poloman

Scam is when you see this. 90% of iPhone users are not technically savvy and they will run to replace the battery.
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So you are essentially running with 80% peak capacity for saving the battery in the future which may any way be 80% after 2-3 years. After which you may anyway sell or replace the phone. For the whole life of the phone you end up using 80% of its battery and the person who got it when you upgrade got lucky.

Well all my iphones are used for more than 4 years minimum. I still have my iphone 7 and the battery is at 75%. My previous 2 iphones are used by my son and wife and the battery is 90%. The point is simple ROI.

Yes there are rich folks who change iphones frequently where the new buyer gets lucky as you mentioned. However for me I would prefer to be the beneficiery of the additional juice the battery gives till such time I decide to part ways with it.

On a lighter note, my car is 14 years and still smells and functions like new and so is my 94 RX100 ;-) I am old school when it comes to brand loyalty. Cant help it, old habits die hard!

[Go1Gamer]

My battery health on my iPhone 14 which is nearing a year of ownership is 96% percent, on a daily I do not give it a heavy load. I only charge it while driving as my commute is pretty long and that should be enough to charge the phone.





My older 2016 SE is at 83% with it's second battery (replacement purchased through apple official service center nearly two years back).





I used to swear by the charging limit upto 80-90% and in fact i had setup an automation to ring whenever the phone reached that charge level. I insisted my family members to do the same. But what i noticed was their phones just drained a lot more. (I concluded that this 80% battery thing was redundant and just a waste of my time)
The 12 mini my mom uses has taken the largest hit and is already nearing 85% in two years whereas the XR which has been used since 2019 is still at 85%.

Things i have noticed that affect battery life:

1. The apps , (some apps that run in the background for a long time really put a huge strain on the battery , these apps have to be either deleted or you have to manually close them (forest app as an example always runs in the background and drains the battery) always look out for this.
2. The cell service , the place where i live and work both have terrible cell reception, iPhones just don't know when to stop looking for a better signal and it keeps draining the battery trying its best to improve the signal. In my opinion if you can keep it in airplane mode it is best or at least turn on wifi calling if its not enabled yet. Poor Cell service drains the battery horribly especially on older iPhones.
3. Heat , it is a fact that heat is bad for battery longevity, older and smaller iPhones cant dissipate this heat well and i have noticed it really kills the battery life (my suggestion is to not use the phone for heavy tasks while charging or switch to a charger with a lower wattage which does slow down the charging but makes the phone heat up a lot lesser) wireless charging also tends to heat up phones a lot more and overall is not necessary unless its extremely convenient for you. My old SE used to heat up like there's no tomorrow. And I place the 14 near the AC vent in the car when charging so that it doesn't get hot under the direct sunlight.
4. Others, applications that unnecessarily use location services also heat up the phone (my experience with booking autos in the sunny Bangalore afternoons has been extremely horrible ). you can disable unnecessary location services under (settings -> privacy and security ->location services ).Find my also drains the battery quite a bit but its a necessary evil so I would suggest keeping that on, you never know if you might need it.

Overall I would say, for those who were paranoid like me about the battery health learn to stop checking those figures as what will happen will happen with the batteries, batteries are batteries and they degrade eventually (calibration of the battery also plays a big part in accurate battery health representation). For those who are looking to preserve their iPhone battery health for a bit longer hopefully my message helped you a bit

[LeoSam]

My 2019 Xs Max is still with 84% Battery life. I use 2 Wireless chargers one at home and one at office with 7.5W charger. Charging is set at optimised level. In my opinion the main reason for getting a good battery life is to have only apps which we need on a regular basis and also I restart the phone every night before going to bed and kill all back ground apps. I also switch off mobile data, wifi and bluetooth in the night. Sharing my few cents to get better battery life.

[NiInJa]

My iphone's 13's battery (Jul 2022) is now at 88% and I can feel the pinch especially when taking it outdoors. The fact that Iphones have relatively low battery capacity doesn't help either. The sad reality is, we have to carry an additional battery bank and you cannot afford to forget it. In India, it works well because we travel in cars usually and the phone is charging continuously, but try doing the same in other countries where you travel mostly by public transport and getting a charging port is not guaranteed.

I did a lot of tours this summer and used the phone for everything from clicking photos to navigation to web browsing for purchasing tickets, translating French/German to english. I did a similar trip when I got the phone in August 2022 (that was the main reason of getting an Iphone = Photography)

Compared to 2022 to 2024, I can say for sure that the phone clearly drains faster when doing photography. I could take more photos in 2022 and there would still be enough juice to post it on Instagram on a train back home/hotel, or have some music played. I just could'nt do that now, as the phone barely had 5 to 8% left and I needed to keep it alive for tapping in and out at train stations till a charger was within reach.

I don't think it is an iphone specific problem though, all phones have similar issues, but what makes it worse (especially in case of normal iphones, not the pro and max versions) is the battery capacity itself is smaller to start with, add degradation on top of it and you have a phone that will barely make it to the end of the day.

On the contrary, I am still rocking an Samsung M31 that had about 6000 mAh of battery. I takes bad photos, the speakers are gone, has become slow and has some degradation in battery life, but it is not as pronounced as the iphone because it has a big battery to start with. It still works great for navigation, app browsing, music throughout the day.

[NiInJa]

Originally Posted by LeoSam

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I restart the phone every night before going to bed and kill all back ground apps. I also switch off mobile data, wifi and bluetooth in the night. Sharing my few cents to get better battery life.

Sorry, but isn't it too much manual work for a phone that is supposedly touted as ' it just works'

Yes, I forgot to mention, my iphone 13 now drains more battery in the night. If the charge is say 75% while sleeping, it is around 67-68% when I wake up. Sometimes its even more, but I don't bother much. I found the reason for it, the Garmin connect app that requires weather and location data needs to be running in the background for accurate weather and 'find-my-phone' function. Unfortunately, that is a trade-off I have made peace with. I never had this issue when I was using an Apple watch (surrendered it as I felt it was not adding much style and value to my way of living)

[SmartCat]

For those who:

- own an iphone and also an android phone
- love the 'battery health' feature of an iphone

you can get the same feature on your android phone using the ACCUBATTERY app:

[LeoSam]

Originally Posted by NiInJa

Sorry, but isn't it too much manual work for a phone that is supposedly touted as ' it just works'

Yes, I forgot to mention, my iphone 13 now drains more battery in the night. If the charge is say 75% while sleeping, it is around 67-68% when I wake up. Sometimes its even more, but I don't bother much. I found the reason for it, the Garmin connect app that requires weather and location data needs to be running in the background for accurate weather and 'find-my-phone' function. Unfortunately, that is a trade-off I have made peace with. I never had this issue when I was using an Apple watch (surrendered it as I felt it was not adding much style and value to my way of living)

You are right. It takes some time to do this excercise every night. But when you buy a phone for 1.25L and want to hold it for atleast 5 years, this becomes a necassity

[NitNac]

Originally Posted by sumathindra

Well all my iphones are used for more than 4 years minimum. I still have my iphone 7 and the battery is at 75%. My previous 2 iphones are used by my son and wife and the battery is 90%. The point is simple ROI.

Yes there are rich folks who change iphones frequently where the new buyer gets lucky as you mentioned. However for me I would prefer to be the beneficiery of the additional juice the battery gives till such time I decide to part ways with it.

On a lighter note, my car is 14 years and still smells and functions like new and so is my 94 RX100 ;-) I am old school when it comes to brand loyalty. Cant help it, old habits die hard!

Good to know that it works. I did read this long back but use this feature on my laptops. Just found out from your post that it's available on smartphones too.

Thank you

[Cresterk]

Originally Posted by saket77

People are disappointed with 12Mini's battery life but I still need to charge it once in 2 days- don't know how & why
It is still running iOS16.XX. I did upgrade to iOS 17 when it rolled out but battery life took a huge hit needing me to charge the phone every day. Also the contacts card was so ugly that I couldn't stand it. Thankfully Apple was still signing the last versions of iOS16 hence I rolled back to it.
I am still there and sitting on fence if I should upgrade to iOS18.

A lot depends on the distance from the cell tower and band being used.

You will notice this especially if you have a habit of travelling and staying in different locations. When I’m in a rural area, I get only about 5-6 hours before I have to plug my 15 pro in.
When I’m in the city, I can easily get 12 hours and still have 30-40% left.