The home / office air-conditioner thread

Akshay1234 · 22nd April 2009, 20:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by joy_swift

I dont think you have 5 star rated 2 ton split AC.Can anyone throw some light on this?

i think general does have one. all generals are 5 star rated.

Spitfire · 22nd April 2009, 21:55

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Originally Posted by kb100

Are you sure??

Yes. They were in the original packing of the compressor. I opened the box myself and checked the stuff inside before the installation folks came in.

Was the packing opened before you took delivery?

aadix · 22nd April 2009, 21:57

hey guys,

a few doubts:

what are the advantages of a split ac over a regular window ac?

for example:

a 3 star lg window ac:

LG Air Conditioners- Room AC, Window AC, Mini Multi Split & Floor Standing ACs | LG Electronics India

a 3 star samsung window ac:

comfort is a short breeze away with SAMSUNG bio sleeplus air conditioners AW18WSB - Window Air Conditioners - Air Conditioner | SAMSUNG

the cheapest 3 star lg split ac :

LG Air Conditioners- Room AC, Window AC, Mini Multi Split & Floor Standing ACs | LG Electronics India

the cheapest 3 star samsung split ac :

comfort is a short breeze away with SAMSUNG bio sleeplus air conditioners AS18ULA - Split Air Conditioners - Air Conditioner | SAMSUNG

well from what i could see above apart from the star rating being similar and the window ac having just a few lesser features than the split ac, what are the other benefits for the split ac?

the price diff is considerable,plus from my experience window ac's are much easier to clean.

and wouldnt window ac's be less messier to install (provided the room has the provision for it)?

the reason am asking is, planning to pick up a few new ac's for home and the price margin is a lot, for the price of 3 splits i could easily get 4 window variants of the same BEE rating

my current airconditoners are 2 ton and 1.5 ton general window airconditoners, and am very very happy with them. what are the BEE ratings for the current general airconditoners?

also another small doubt:

why does fujistu general itself refer to the general acs as o-general?

check out the link below:

shows the india website as: ogeneralindia.com (under construction)

Contact(India) - FUJITSU GENERAL GLOBAL

PatienceWins · 22nd April 2009, 22:09

I would say Hitachi is worth the price in terms of features, cooling, noise and low electricity bill.

I have a hitachi window AC which I cannot use as my new apartment does not have provision for window AC. Anyone interested, let me know.

kb100 · 22nd April 2009, 23:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spitfire

Yes. They were in the original packing of the compressor. I opened the box myself and checked the stuff inside before the installation folks came in.

Was the packing opened before you took delivery?

Hell No!

They distracted my attention - sent me out for a 15 amp plug.. and when I got back they had taken the compressor for installation!! The box is still with me - that had nothing in it but for packing material!

I will have to take this up with Onida People!

ashu_DL8SAL2859 · 23rd April 2009, 09:56

Hey Guys, thanks for all the posts. This forum was nice work on AC's. I finally picked up the Hitachi 1.5ton window for 25K+2K for stabiliser.

Thanks all.

Cheers,
Ashutosh

PatienceWins · 23rd April 2009, 11:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashu_DL8SAL2859

Hey Guys, thanks for all the posts. This forum was nice work on AC's. I finally picked up the Hitachi 1.5ton window for 25K+2K for stabiliser.

Thanks all.

Cheers,
Ashutosh

That is a great choice. I am sure you would love it.

Prowler · 23rd April 2009, 13:47

aadix

Quote:

what are the advantages of a split ac over a regular window ac?

A split AC is easy to maintain. It is very quiet and doesn't take up space or window compared with a window unit. From security point of view, Windows AC can be 'kicked in' and a thief can easily enter through the hole if you live in the ground floor. Modern window units have a metal clamp to block the unit from being pushed from outside.

Another major advantage of a split unit is the uniform distribution of cool air around the room. A window unit may leave you with hot pockets somewhere in the room and have a "freeze" zone just before the grill.

Power consumption is the same for both units as they use the same compressors. Window unit may have one less fan but the fan of the window unit consumes a bit more making it even.

Thad E Ginathom · 23rd April 2009, 15:39

The compressor is the noisy component, with a window unit, it is pretty-much in your room.

I suspect that the outdoor units make less noise anyway; they are more sturdy in construction, and should be mounted on rubber pads which helps prevent vibration from passing to the building. However, don't mount one too close to your window!

esteem_lover · 23rd April 2009, 15:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by kb100

Are you sure??

I did not get one when I bought my Onida - DESPITE asking for it!

What is the escalation matrix?

Yeah, me too. Had to pay 750 for the brackets.

bblost · 23rd April 2009, 15:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spitfire

Brackets are given along with the compressor. Not required to pay separately. I got them for a Onida and a LG AC.

Have purchased two Samsung Splits till now.
A one Ton last year and a 1.5 last week.

Both times had to buy the brackets.
Paid 600 bucks to the installer.

It was packaged separately and not inside the AC boxes.
Even had its own brand name. I cannot remember it.

Spitfire: was the bracket inside the compressor carton?

Spitfire · 23rd April 2009, 23:40

For LG and Onida both in the compressor box. This is in Jan 2008.

emkay456 · 24th April 2009, 14:09

Yesterday finally the LG service guy turned up to inspect my brand new LG 1.5 AC ( aleady posted here regarding cooling and thermostat problem ). Firstly it was a change to see a neatly dressed (with tie) person attending the unit after the shabby outsourced guys of Reliance Digital who are supposed to be providing support.

The official said that gas is not sufficient in the Unit and he will return on Saturday to fill it up. He mentioned that AC has to cutt off in 12 -13 mts on running once its operating in a cooled room condition. So waiting to see if the gas refill will help me.

NK@Hyd · 24th April 2009, 14:58

Guys,

Just trying to match up some of the prices quoted by Next and Reliance Digital respectively in Secunderabad:

NEXT (Installation-Rs. 500 for Window and Rs.1500 for Split; Stabilizer: Rs.2000):

LG-LWA5EW... Window 1.5T: Rs.15,500
Samsung AW18ZKA Window 1.5T: Rs.17,000
Kenstar KT18GN Split 1.5T: Rs. 16,990

Should be able to negotiate and get atleast Rs.500-1000 written off.

RELIANCE DIGITAL

Godrej Window 1.5T (2 star rating): Rs. 19,980 (inclusive of inst. and stab.)
Godrej GSC18FA Split 1.5T (2 star rating): Rs. 23,589 (inclusive of instl. and stab.)

Again, should be able to negotiate further. Reliance has an in-house repair and maintenance team. Don't know whether its good for customers or not.

Prowler · 24th April 2009, 16:21

One thing I can tell you about LG. They need more service than other brands. I have a windows unit about 2 years old. It has very narrow fins which get clogged with dirt and the unit requires water washing every 6 months. They did it about 4 times in 2 years. I have Samsung, National, O General and Voltas ACs(window/Split) in our office where there is no such problem.

22nd April 2009, 21:57	#423
aadix Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: hyderabad Posts: 1,597 Thanked: 14 Times	hey guys, a few doubts: what are the advantages of a split ac over a regular window ac? for example: a 3 star lg window ac: LG Air Conditioners- Room AC, Window AC, Mini Multi Split & Floor Standing ACs \| LG Electronics India a 3 star samsung window ac: comfort is a short breeze away with SAMSUNG bio sleeplus air conditioners AW18WSB - Window Air Conditioners - Air Conditioner \| SAMSUNG the cheapest 3 star lg split ac : LG Air Conditioners- Room AC, Window AC, Mini Multi Split & Floor Standing ACs \| LG Electronics India the cheapest 3 star samsung split ac : comfort is a short breeze away with SAMSUNG bio sleeplus air conditioners AS18ULA - Split Air Conditioners - Air Conditioner \| SAMSUNG well from what i could see above apart from the star rating being similar and the window ac having just a few lesser features than the split ac, what are the other benefits for the split ac? the price diff is considerable,plus from my experience window ac's are much easier to clean. and wouldnt window ac's be less messier to install (provided the room has the provision for it)? the reason am asking is, planning to pick up a few new ac's for home and the price margin is a lot, for the price of 3 splits i could easily get 4 window variants of the same BEE rating my current airconditoners are 2 ton and 1.5 ton general window airconditoners, and am very very happy with them. what are the BEE ratings for the current general airconditoners? also another small doubt: why does fujistu general itself refer to the general acs as o-general? check out the link below: shows the india website as: ogeneralindia.com (under construction) Contact(India) - FUJITSU GENERAL GLOBAL Last edited by aadix : 22nd April 2009 at 22:14.
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PatienceWins Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,416 Thanked: 807 Times View My Garage	I would say Hitachi is worth the price in terms of features, cooling, noise and low electricity bill. I have a hitachi window AC which I cannot use as my new apartment does not have provision for window AC. Anyone interested, let me know. Last edited by PatienceWins : 22nd April 2009 at 22:11.
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ashu_DL8SAL2859 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6 Thanked: 2 Times	Hey Guys, thanks for all the posts. This forum was nice work on AC's. I finally picked up the Hitachi 1.5ton window for 25K+2K for stabiliser. Thanks all. Cheers, Ashutosh
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Thad E Ginathom Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 11,004 Thanked: 26,433 Times	The compressor is the noisy component, with a window unit, it is pretty-much in your room. I suspect that the outdoor units make less noise anyway; they are more sturdy in construction, and should be mounted on rubber pads which helps prevent vibration from passing to the building. However, don't mount one too close to your window!
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Spitfire BANNED Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Panaji - Goa/Bangalore - Karnataka Posts: 3,312 Thanked: 774 Times	For LG and Onida both in the compressor box. This is in Jan 2008.
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24th April 2009, 14:09	#433
emkay456 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 388 Thanked: 7 Times	Yesterday finally the LG service guy turned up to inspect my brand new LG 1.5 AC ( aleady posted here regarding cooling and thermostat problem ). Firstly it was a change to see a neatly dressed (with tie) person attending the unit after the shabby outsourced guys of Reliance Digital who are supposed to be providing support. The official said that gas is not sufficient in the Unit and he will return on Saturday to fill it up. He mentioned that AC has to cutt off in 12 -13 mts on running once its operating in a cooled room condition. So waiting to see if the gas refill will help me.
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24th April 2009, 14:58	#434
NK@Hyd BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 52 Thanked: 3 Times	Guys, Just trying to match up some of the prices quoted by Next and Reliance Digital respectively in Secunderabad: NEXT (Installation-Rs. 500 for Window and Rs.1500 for Split; Stabilizer: Rs.2000): LG-LWA5EW... Window 1.5T: Rs.15,500 Samsung AW18ZKA Window 1.5T: Rs.17,000 Kenstar KT18GN Split 1.5T: Rs. 16,990 Should be able to negotiate and get atleast Rs.500-1000 written off. RELIANCE DIGITAL Godrej Window 1.5T (2 star rating): Rs. 19,980 (inclusive of inst. and stab.) Godrej GSC18FA Split 1.5T (2 star rating): Rs. 23,589 (inclusive of instl. and stab.) Again, should be able to negotiate further. Reliance has an in-house repair and maintenance team. Don't know whether its good for customers or not.
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24th April 2009, 16:21	#435
Prowler BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Madras Posts: 774 Thanked: 1,324 Times	One thing I can tell you about LG. They need more service than other brands. I have a windows unit about 2 years old. It has very narrow fins which get clogged with dirt and the unit requires water washing every 6 months. They did it about 4 times in 2 years. I have Samsung, National, O General and Voltas ACs(window/Split) in our office where there is no such problem.
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