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23rd October 2011, 04:49 | #211 | ||
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Hyundai cars are known for their bouncy ride including their best seller, the i10. Speaking about Etios, I would be pleasantly surprised if the ride quality is better than the Vento as you just said. Haven't been in an Etios yet. Quote:
Could you specify what exactly did your friends not like about the interiors? The look and feel? The quality of the material? The ergonomics? The comfort features? I'm asking this since your friends must have definitely seen the car and in all possibility test driven it as well before buying. So just curious to know what made them change their opinion about the interiors later on after owning the car. Last edited by jayded : 23rd October 2011 at 04:51. | ||
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23rd October 2011, 06:24 | #212 | |||
Distinguished - BHPian | Re: Frustrated Etios owner places Ad with complaints Quite the early birds, both of us, aren't we! Quote:
But please note, overall ride quality is far better in the Vento; be it at low speeds or high. But the Etios takes the cake when it comes to handling potholes, especially the moon-crater sized ones of Mumbai roads. Quote:
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- Hideous Central console (I agree - even the Vista has a center console, but far better looking!) - Poor plastics moulds (I disagree - they look a tad dull, but the quality is decent) - Plain vanilla look (Neutral - depends on what variant we are talking about) As I said earlier, I really don't give much concern to such feedbacks - I did ask them if they had any other issues other than interiors & mileage - I got blank looks & just arbit replies. Last edited by ninjatalli : 23rd October 2011 at 06:46. | |||
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http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/intern...models-us.html http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...ls-recall.html The fanboyism in some of the posts are more than sufficient evidence on how biased are the people towards the brand. Quote:
As I wrote earlier, at 8.5L on-road, it does not come cheap. And for that price, it is a costly compromise. Suspension, power etc does not alone make a car. If water enters the cabin during rains, what is the use of a superb engine or super space? | ||||
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23rd October 2011, 09:25 | #214 | |
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1.the initial issue was that while fixing after market speakers, the Service personals did not put the rubber beading back properly. 2.when the news spread, people started interpreting the wet areas of door trims as leaks which was not the case. It was by design, because the rubber gaskets are fitted on the inner part of door trims and not on the outer part of doors. Now, even if there's indeed a bug, this is not a critical one and can be fixed very easily. But, if the bug was with the engine or gearbox, I would never have taken this risk. | |
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23rd October 2011, 10:15 | #215 | |
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To make it more clear, I asked myself the following questions. 1.can I extend the rear leg space of swift after I buy it. No 2.can I improve the brakes after buying it. Too costly and too risky. 3. Can I improve the driving position ergonomics on swift? No, thanks to the waterfall dash design. 4.can I improve the visibility of the swift? No 5. Can I improve the cargo like ambience on the rear seat of swift? No 6. Can I improve the after sales service of fiat and tata? No 7. Can I fix the leak bug on etios ( if it so exist )? From owners whom I know, this is more of a misinterpretation of a design combined with bad modifications done on the rubber beading by accessories shops. Even if, it does have this leak bug, I'm confident that I can get it corrected. 8. Am I worried about the interior looks? Not at all, as long a it is durable, functional and practical. Last edited by amalji : 23rd October 2011 at 10:20. | |
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| Re: Frustrated Etios owner places Ad with complaints The complaint ad made an interesting reading. The owner mentions about water seepage. Considering the fact the Etios has a ground clearance of 170mm, if the water were to seep in, the surface on which the owner was driving the car must have such levels of water. The question, is this the right usage pattern to ride a car of such as class on a surface? I think not. The mileage being 10km/liter seems quite practical. We need to analyze the quality of fuel, tire pressures, driving methods of the owner to arrive at a better conclusion. As for the engine noise, this may be expected for a car of such a class owing to less damping. Engine strain at higher rpms may also be noted. Again if the owner tries to revv the car at second /third gear to say 100kph, you can expect alot of engine noise. Just my thoughts... |
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23rd October 2011, 11:25 | #217 |
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While I cannot disagree on this, at least Tata Motors sells genuine spares otc and you can choose to get your vehicle serviced at your trusted independent mechanic (if you have one). Further the Etios (as per Team-BHP official review) does not come with extended warranty, not sure if this has changed. So you win some, you lose some. But yeah, some shortcomings can be fixed, some can be overlooked and but some cannot and this eventually determines the choice you make. BTW, can you improve interior appeal (possibly but not entirely) and can you improve mileage for the petrol version (not easily without impacting your driving style). Last edited by sachinayak : 23rd October 2011 at 11:28. |
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23rd October 2011, 11:46 | #219 | ||
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With regards to mileage, it's not applicable for me since I've opted for the diesel. But still, I would like to comment on it. 10 to 12kmpl mileage is decent for 1.5l petrol engine with 132nm of torque! If you want to get better mileage, drive the car like a 110nm torque car and you will get better mileage. But once you are used to the huge torque in the etios, you always want to use that power and that will obviously hit your mileage figures. Etios petrol is a real fun to drive peppy car. If not for the petrol price, I would have opted for it for sure. Last edited by amalji : 23rd October 2011 at 11:48. | ||
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Personally, I would take Manza over Etios most of the time, except for the concern on its quality and A$$. It's much better furnished, but not necessarily better engineered in my view and so very spacious too. Regarding DZire, I'd take Etios anyday for its space, ride quality, negligible turbo lag. Quote:
You can actually improve upon the interior aesthetics to a good extent by putting good seat covers. It really helps. | ||||||||
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23rd October 2011, 19:38 | #222 | |||
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Thanks for visiting the site. This is the platform for myself and the people like me who feel that they have some issues with their Toyota ETIOS. Before I answer I need to clarify that I am talking about a personal car which I have bought and I have spent 7.5L for my Toyota ETIOS V Model and I had trusted the engineering of a great automobile manufacturer-Toyota. Please I will again reiterate that I have purchased a personal car and not STATE TRANSPORT BUS that I can accept the poor performance of the vehicle which includes low Fuel Economy, vibrations and noise inside the passenger cabin, road noise inside the passenger cabin. Low pickup etc. As you have not gone through the pain of having a bad experience with your automobile you can defend Toyota ETIOS or may be for some other reasons as well but I have a cause with me. Toyota dealer very clearly told me that it is a cheap product, it was his foolishness to compare it with Altis. Even the Nano has the weather gaskets which is the most economical car in India. Cost of 5 Nanos is equal to Toyota ETIOS. Santro, i10, i20,Indica, Zen, WagonR, Swift, Swift Dezire they are all sold close to 2L vehicles as compared to only 2500 units of Toyota ETIOS but still the people buying those vehicles are happy and mostly satisfied but in ETIOS they are unhappy. ETIOS is performing only on the internet reviews which is written by biased or professional writers. I think the weather gaskets which are very essential in the car are also absent from ETIOS this is because of poor design engineering from Toyota. These gaskets act as dampers for sound and vibrations and Toyota has done a very big mistake by ignoring it for cost cutting. If there is no problem with ETIOS then why is company giving away free insurance and low interest rates on loan and heavy discounts. Toyota cars are good but only those which are manufactured multi-nationally and have been launched and tested in all the parts of the world like Innova, Corolla, Camry, Altis, etc Quote:
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I already have the following done immediately after the purchase. But these did not affect the performance of ETIOS Under body anti rust coating Teflon coating on the paint surface. OEM rubber mats with locks OEM cloth mats with locks OEM floor mat for boot space. I had very enthusiastically bought my ETIOS and did not compromise on any treatment or accessories apart from OEM. The back ache is because of the excessive vibrations in side the passenger cabin. The doors, window glass also vibrate at idle condition. It will be difficult to explain but very painful to experience. Note from the Team-BHP Support Team: Please use the "edit" button if posting within 30 minutes of the first post, instead of creating another back-to-back post. Also use "Multi Quote" option for quoting Multiple posts. Last edited by Rudra Sen : 24th October 2011 at 08:16. | |||
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I used to love the care I get from MSM ( Maruti Service Masters ) and MASS ( Maruti Authorized Service Centers ). So, was a bit skeptical about switching brands, since I've seen how bad Tata and FIAT are on that front. Quote:
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The only thing, that I find real bad on the Etios is the center console, the small trip meter and the needle behind the fonts of the speedo. ( even though, I like the setup during night when the backlit is on. ). But, I can live with it for sure when I get a lot of other good options. Last edited by Amartya : 24th October 2011 at 00:17. Reason: Minor edit, removed a smiley. Cheers. | ||||||
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No its just because of increasing cost of petrol, people are shifting towards diesel cars. Last edited by Amartya : 24th October 2011 at 11:45. Reason: Edited out the stray "quote" tags. Cheers. | ||||||
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24th October 2011, 16:58 | #225 | |
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Jokes apart, Which all needs are fulfilled in a better way (apart from the boot space) when you compare Etios with the new Swift? Just asking because I am curious to know in what all aspects Etios really 'wow's one and in what all aspects new Swift needs improvement. Last edited by clevermax : 24th October 2011 at 17:13. | |
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