Re: Fiat's India strategy revealed. Abarth, Jeep, new Linea & Punto coming. More insi Quote:
Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR Better space managed cabin, better FE, better power, better driveability and a supposed to be better brand.
For someone looking at a Punto 90HP, Amaze strikes off every advantage of the Punto, except for looks and build quality. I know I'd be confused if i were in the market for a sub-4m powerful diesel. |
The same advantages you listed down for Amaze almost holds good for i20 as well. When you bought the Punto, you had the i20 as an option as well, but why did you chose the Punto?
It's nice to thrive to be objective, but not at the cost of self's integrity. It makes the discussion meaningless. Quote:
Thats the question FIAT needs to answer, and fast.
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For us humans life is short, but companies and conglomerates are expected to run for at least hundreds of years. Please understand Fiat is not a small entity, it's built by several thousand people and exists for over several decades. Quote:
If they want to cater to the enthusiasts (24% of whatever as they claim) -
1. They should bring in T-Jet as the main engine for Linea petrol (Atleast on mid and top variants)- Check (almost).
2. Bring in Abarth for brand buildin. - Check (almost),
3. Bring in performance + visual upgrade kits for existing owners to go gaga about - Cross. (Dont think company is thinking along these lines).
4. Bring in the newer models - Check (But only by 2014).
5. Bring in T-Jet powered Punto. (Performance hatchbacks are back, and while Abarth will rule this segment on paper, its too exclusive to make an impact) - Cross. (Dont think company will go ahead with this!)
6. Make sure there is a dealer base to support all this - Check (Atleast they are trying!).
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A redundant read! Quote:
Originally Posted by vb-san I do like Fiat cars, and I do think that these steps of going solo and bringing in more products will put them on the right path.
But this kind of extreme reactions is what normally ignites the Fiat v/s all other brand debates |
It will be nice to list out the facts before claiming something. Claiming something to be extreme without reasoning out why, doesn't sound right. Quote:
What exactly is Fiat’s USP now? For me, the Linea is a well rounded car in its segment, but sadly it lacks an USP to bring in more buyers. For me, the USP was the T-Jet engine, and it is indeed good news that they are bringing it back.
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For you, the USP of Fiat may be just the T-Jet engine. For many of us it is a lot more - The solid build, the sheer Ride, the Handling, the sense of safety, the looks that could put cars above many segments to shame, the dynamics, the nifty safety features such as the metal sheet running behind the back seat, etc etc. Quote:
Its new to the market, and cannot really comment on what we will get from the Amaze. But from the look of it, it’s a well-engineered car with all the positives you mentioned.
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Nothing against the Amaze, but is just a look enough to understand the depth of engineering? Quote:
And those parameters like efficiency and space management are important too. One big complaint I have about the Linea is on space management. Big car from outside, but not so usable space inside (compared to the competition). It’s something which Fiat needs to address. From what I have experienced, it’s the same case with even with Punto Evo.
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One of the reasons for relatively lesser space in the cabin is - The long protruding bonnet which in turn gives a bigger crumple zone.
What do you want? A little more space in the cabin or a cabin that is a little more safer? Quote:
They don’t need be mass-market, but it is important for them to garner respectable numbers to justify their presence in a huge market like India. And don’t dismiss those parameters as mass-market.
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They are not sitting idle. Quote:
Jeep Cherokee is indeed a good addition to our market, but it may not do much for Fiat as a brand. It’s like saying the launch of new Skoda Octavia will boost the Volkswagen brand.
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You are looking to buy a flat. Whom would you choose? A builder who is just starting his first construction or a builder who has proven establishments under him?
You may ask did Hyundai do that?
Fiat made a mistake and looking for amends. Yamaha failed and they brought in the streeght fighter FZ, I was bowled over by the bike, likewise many youngsters would have and that started the Yamaha's resurrection story. Fiat don't have exciting products under their portfolio for India at the moment. So they are bringing in products from some of their other stables which don't you think makes sense?
Last edited by CliffHanger : 4th April 2013 at 15:54.
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