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Hoping this is untrue! | |
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| ![]() If at all they are working for TML, then TML should find such rats and fire them. Such info will usually be known only to a person having a good position and this is just taking wrong advantage of that. Don't these guys have some sort of legal obligations to not disclose stuff outside ? |
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Scorpio is selling in good numbers even with those ratings. Quote:
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Best would be to post it but also put a disclaimer that this is a unsubstantiated info. Isn't this one of the the purpose of such forums? We can get the official statement from many other sources but inside scoops are valuable. But if something leans towards being just rumor/speculation, it should be removed by the mods. | |
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The caveat that it is unsubstantiated has been made clear. If it's untrue, Tata can easily prove it by letting GNCAP test the car. | |
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PS: I mean no offence to the OP, just felt the information could be provided out in a better way (as opposed to it being like a Whatsapp forward, for me) hence stating my opinion here. I don't work for Tata and neither do I have any vested interests in the company. I am just posting as a newly turned admirer of it's cars. | |
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He did credit the fiat 2.0 diesel to be amazing. But he repeated that the Varicor 2.2 is expected in the Omega Arc platform SUVs. | ||
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Even if TML had the slightest inkling of such an adaption, they would not have gone ahead to sign up power train deals with Fiat and Hyundai. | |
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| ![]() I would like to believe what has been shared. Tata has published Altroz's 5* safety results, anyone with minimum common sense can sense something amiss when their flagship product has not yet been crash tested. They have tested every single car except Harrier! They are speaking in future tense about safety of a vehicle which has been launched. Come on guys, don't be so naive. As much as admire Tata, one need to call a spade a spade. Harrier is not a safe vehicle untill otherwise proved, the onus is on Tata to do that. They can't give excuses for not testing it. |
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BHPian ![]() | ![]() This rumor seems inaccurate. It is highly unlikely that Fiat's 2.0 ltr diesel engine will just cave-in to the passenger space of a JLR designed platform car. Jeep Compass with the same engine has scored 5*s. If Tata's flagship car has failed the test so badly, they wouldn't go gung-ho about Nexon and Altroz's 5*s which raises the same question on Harrier too. I feel this is what has happened: Tata didn't expect Harrier to be such a slow performer in sales. They are obviously re-working the product plan to make it sustainable and profitable. Making a 7 seater variant suggests that point. Harrier is positioned in D1 segment. This segment doesn't have a Maruti competing. NO one in the auto industry in their right mind will let such an opportunity go waste by producing an unsafe car for a premium segment. Harrier will score atleast 4*s when it will be tested. |
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Harrier might as well not meet the lofty standards Tata has set for their recent cars, but there's a good chance it might still trump its competitors. That's how poor the safety scene in India is. So, there's nothing worrisome for Tata. You might try to put words in their mouth, but I don't think Tata will be foolish to admit it even if that's the case. Last edited by Chetan_Rao : 31st January 2020 at 01:13. Reason: Typo. | |
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I have said my next car would be a Tata or Mahindra, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna defend them blindly. XUV 500 won't get a good crash rating, that's why they didn't test it. About Toyota, they know for sure Innova won't make the cut. They have tested Etios, so it's not that they haven't tested their cars. Coming to Koreans and Japanese, as long the cars make volumes they won't bother or else the government should have some spine. Any reasons according to you that Tata haven't tested Harrier yet? Let me get enlightened about only one car among their stable being mysteriously left out of crash testing! One doesn't need to have use too much of grey matter to know why. They will test it only when they are sure it will at least secure 4*. They may be trying all within their means to reach that stage, but the cars all ready on the roads can't be told to be safe. Nexon's 5* star rating was after improvements to the 4* star rated Nexon. You can't say all Nexon's are 5* crash rated, it's only from December 2018 onwards if I remember correctly that Nexon became 5* rated. | |
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