Poll: Civic V/S Corolla altis

S_budhiraj · 13th February 2009, 13:47

@ ASR245

A.S.S of Honda is seriously poor in NCR, even I had some real bad times at (Ring Road Honda - Peeragarhi) and (Prime Honda - Gazhiabad).

Had to send my Honda to (Southend Honda - Badarpur) which is approx, 40 kms from my place.

Reason Head of Service dept. is known to family.

Else all Honda dealers sucks your blood.

We even have Toyota in house and must say nobody can beat Toyota for its sheer quality and reliability and service experience at Toyota has always been better.

Despite Civic being better product i would recommend Toyota Altis for following reasons:-

More features at cheaper price.
Better rear seat
Better in and out
Better ground clearance (must required driving in NCR)

asr245 · 13th February 2009, 14:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by S_budhiraj

@ ASR245

A.S.S of Honda is seriously poor in NCR, even I had some real bad times at (Ring Road Honda - Peeragarhi) and (Prime Honda - Gazhiabad).

Had to send my Honda to (Southend Honda - Badarpur) which is approx, 40 kms from my place.

Reason Head of Service dept. is known to family.

Else all Honda dealers sucks your blood.

We even have Toyota in house and must say nobody can beat Toyota for its sheer quality and reliability and service experience at Toyota has always been better.

Despite Civic being better product i would recommend Toyota Altis for following reasons:-

More features at cheaper price.
Better rear seat
Better in and out
Better ground clearance (must required driving in NCR)

Thanks for the input. Honda dealers are the reason I am tilted towards the Corolla and so is dad. Dad's experience with Ring Road Honda, Gurgaon and another Honda on Mathura road (i think) hasn't been good. Pearl Honda, which he uses now, is a bit better (could be as it's relatively new).

Ym-enjn · 13th February 2009, 14:37

Toyota's sales team is slow and not as aggressive as Honda's sales staff. One Toyota manager told me that they still don't have any incentives on selling Altis and also no targets yet. But the A.S.S. team is excellent. Well trained, eager to help and reliable.

One thing sure lacks in Altis is the choice of colors. 4 out of 5 colors are from previous Corolla and top of it black and white are not available. Can anyone think of a reason why so?

asr245 · 13th February 2009, 14:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ym-enjn

Toyota's sales team is slow and not as aggressive as Honda's sales staff. One Toyota manager told me that they still don't have any incentives on selling Altis and also no targets yet. But the A.S.S. team is excellent. Well trained, eager to help and reliable.

One thing sure lacks in Altis is the choice of colors. 4 out of 5 colors are from previous Corolla and top of it black and white are not available. Can anyone think of a reason why so?

Honda? aggressive? I visited for a TD of NHC VTEC in Nov 07 to Ring Road Honda Gurgaon. After the TD they took my name and number and I left. Never got call from them enquiring about my interest or anything else.

Sorry for going OT. It ends here.

jimmyjagga · 12th March 2009, 18:19

I have bought Corolla Altis and have driven both Civic and Altis, and my view is that if you are going for a family car to cruise around with no high speed gimmicks ALTIS is way to go!
No dis-regard to CIVIC, If i were a bachelor i would have gone with CIVIC AT myself.

Regards
JJ

Sahil · 12th March 2009, 22:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ym-enjn

One thing sure lacks in Altis is the choice of colors. 4 out of 5 colors are from previous Corolla and top of it black and white are not available. Can anyone think of a reason why so?

Typical toyota. Few months down the line when sales are don't up to their mark they revive sales with a new color and minor facelift.

manish123 · 17th May 2009, 11:40

I have voted for Altis GL. While Altis G too comes quite close, the extra features in GL especially the automatic HID lights, electronic adjustable seat and leather seats do give a feel of luxary car.
My recomendation is that if you can afford to pay that extra for GL, then its the best bet, otherwise the G version itself is a notch obove the rest in its category

oss · 17th May 2009, 13:29

Can somebody tell me the differece between the MT versions of Civic E, S & V, pls.

inferno · 17th May 2009, 14:07

No points learning that , as S and E versions are already phased out. Only V variant is on-sale as of now.

oss · 17th May 2009, 14:14

Well, true; but i am looking for an used Civic, so wish to know the difference.

ImmortalZ · 17th May 2009, 14:30

S loses the following:

1) Leather seats
2) Chrome bits on the door, inside and outside
3) Body colored door handles
4) ORVMs with indicators
5) Fog lamps
6) The Misty Violet Pearl paint shade

Maybe more, but my memory is hazy.

The E loses from the S:

1) Only single CD music system, probably has less speakers as well.
2) Manual AC only
3) Steel wheels
4) No beige in the interiors
5) I'm guessing it lacks some bits and pieces in the interior as well

I hope this helps.

oss · 17th May 2009, 14:46

Quick question: Does S version come with Automatic Climate Control?

ImmortalZ · 17th May 2009, 15:22

Yes, it does come with ACC.

alankarm@sancha · 18th May 2009, 02:48

BAD NEWS FRIENDS!!!

Honda has revised Upwards the prices of spare parts for CIVIC from 17/04/09.

This is a major revision. The new prices are 2 to 5 times the earlier prices. For example the drive belt (alternator/P.S./Engine belt) has gone up from Rs.713/- to Rs.3777/-. For your information the size is 7PK1960 in my Civic S MT of 2006. This should be available in the range of 700/- or so with Gates etc. (Very reputed and perhaps the oldest brand in the world).

Similar differences for other products too.

I will have to go in for outside parts instead of HONDA branded spares.

Already using outside brake pads, as the Honda ones cost 5500/- to 5800/- + tax per rear or front set (4 pieces each) (11300/- for a set of brake pads for all the 4 wheels)??????????? WOWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!

I will advise other Honda owners also to start using mostly outside spare parts, ut do judge the quality. No difference in quality for most parts, maybe even better.

NOW I SAY ALL VOTES TO ALTIS. NO HANKY PANKY AND NO TAKING US FOR A RIDE.

ImmortalZ · 18th May 2009, 07:45

Well, for one, 17th is a Sunday.

I'm going to the showroom today to check on my car's repairs. If they revised prices, I'll know. I know Honda has overpriced spares already, but them jacking the price up two to five times seems highly improbable. I hope, for all Civic owners' sake, that you are wrong. I guess I'll know today.

View Poll Results: Civic Vs Altis. Which car, which version?
Civic 1.8E MT	27	5.08%
Altis 1.8G MT	60	11.30%
Civic 1.8V MT	136	25.61%
Altis 1.8GL MT	137	25.80%
Civic 1.8V AT	93	17.51%
Altis 1.8VL AT	78	14.69%
Voters: 531. You may not vote on this poll

13th February 2009, 13:47	#226
S_budhiraj BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 275 Thanked: Once	@ ASR245 A.S.S of Honda is seriously poor in NCR, even I had some real bad times at (Ring Road Honda - Peeragarhi) and (Prime Honda - Gazhiabad). Had to send my Honda to (Southend Honda - Badarpur) which is approx, 40 kms from my place. Reason Head of Service dept. is known to family. Else all Honda dealers sucks your blood. We even have Toyota in house and must say nobody can beat Toyota for its sheer quality and reliability and service experience at Toyota has always been better. Despite Civic being better product i would recommend Toyota Altis for following reasons:- More features at cheaper price. Better rear seat Better in and out Better ground clearance (must required driving in NCR) Last edited by S_budhiraj : 13th February 2009 at 13:49.
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13th February 2009, 14:37	#228
Ym-enjn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Jaipur Posts: 1,039 Thanked: 61 Times	Toyota's sales team is slow and not as aggressive as Honda's sales staff. One Toyota manager told me that they still don't have any incentives on selling Altis and also no targets yet. But the A.S.S. team is excellent. Well trained, eager to help and reliable. One thing sure lacks in Altis is the choice of colors. 4 out of 5 colors are from previous Corolla and top of it black and white are not available. Can anyone think of a reason why so? Last edited by Ym-enjn : 13th February 2009 at 14:38. Reason: Fonts
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12th March 2009, 18:19	#230
jimmyjagga BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 113 Thanked: 105 Times View My Garage	I have bought Corolla Altis and have driven both Civic and Altis, and my view is that if you are going for a family car to cruise around with no high speed gimmicks ALTIS is way to go! No dis-regard to CIVIC, If i were a bachelor i would have gone with CIVIC AT myself. Regards JJ
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17th May 2009, 11:40	#232
manish123 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 29 Thanked: 6 Times	I have voted for Altis GL. While Altis G too comes quite close, the extra features in GL especially the automatic HID lights, electronic adjustable seat and leather seats do give a feel of luxary car. My recomendation is that if you can afford to pay that extra for GL, then its the best bet, otherwise the G version itself is a notch obove the rest in its category
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17th May 2009, 13:29	#233
oss BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chennai Posts: 685 Thanked: 7 Times	Can somebody tell me the differece between the MT versions of Civic E, S & V, pls.
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17th May 2009, 14:07	#234
inferno BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 208 Thanked: 4 Times View My Garage	No points learning that , as S and E versions are already phased out. Only V variant is on-sale as of now.
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17th May 2009, 14:14	#235
oss BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chennai Posts: 685 Thanked: 7 Times	Well, true; but i am looking for an used Civic, so wish to know the difference.
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17th May 2009, 14:30	#236
ImmortalZ Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 2,192 Thanked: 602 Times View My Garage	S loses the following: 1) Leather seats 2) Chrome bits on the door, inside and outside 3) Body colored door handles 4) ORVMs with indicators 5) Fog lamps 6) The Misty Violet Pearl paint shade Maybe more, but my memory is hazy. The E loses from the S: 1) Only single CD music system, probably has less speakers as well. 2) Manual AC only 3) Steel wheels 4) No beige in the interiors 5) I'm guessing it lacks some bits and pieces in the interior as well I hope this helps.
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17th May 2009, 14:46	#237
oss BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chennai Posts: 685 Thanked: 7 Times	Quick question: Does S version come with Automatic Climate Control?
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17th May 2009, 15:22	#238
ImmortalZ Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 2,192 Thanked: 602 Times View My Garage	Yes, it does come with ACC.
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18th May 2009, 02:48	#239
alankarm@sancha BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ajmer / Mumbai Posts: 210 Thanked: 3 Times	BAD NEWS FRIENDS!!! Honda has revised Upwards the prices of spare parts for CIVIC from 17/04/09. This is a major revision. The new prices are 2 to 5 times the earlier prices. For example the drive belt (alternator/P.S./Engine belt) has gone up from Rs.713/- to Rs.3777/-. For your information the size is 7PK1960 in my Civic S MT of 2006. This should be available in the range of 700/- or so with Gates etc. (Very reputed and perhaps the oldest brand in the world). Similar differences for other products too. I will have to go in for outside parts instead of HONDA branded spares. Already using outside brake pads, as the Honda ones cost 5500/- to 5800/- + tax per rear or front set (4 pieces each) (11300/- for a set of brake pads for all the 4 wheels)??????????? WOWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!! I will advise other Honda owners also to start using mostly outside spare parts, ut do judge the quality. No difference in quality for most parts, maybe even better. NOW I SAY ALL VOTES TO ALTIS. NO HANKY PANKY AND NO TAKING US FOR A RIDE.
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18th May 2009, 07:45	#240
ImmortalZ Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 2,192 Thanked: 602 Times View My Garage	Well, for one, 17th is a Sunday. I'm going to the showroom today to check on my car's repairs. If they revised prices, I'll know. I know Honda has overpriced spares already, but them jacking the price up two to five times seems highly improbable. I hope, for all Civic owners' sake, that you are wrong. I guess I'll know today.
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