[reachmash]

Hey Dadu,

I don't know how I missed this thread of yours, its really informative and gives quite a lot of information.

I have read the complete thread of yours and realized as well as surprised that we had some common experience when it comes to Showroom, Sales Rep, Initial Glitches (of Truck engine not cranking right in front of the showroom and later in front of the temple) except for the Truck. I have a 3.0L which is 3 months young and 1800 KMS on ODO.

Best Regards

[SUV]

Originally Posted by suman

Sumit, SUV has extensively driven the 2.2 engined Safari when it was in the testing stages, way before it was officially launched.

That's what he's referring to if I'm not mistaken.

Thanks - I wouldnt term it extensively by an means ....What i meant was I have drive examples which had clocked those KM's

[SumitB]

That is correct SUV. I did read somewhere, when the new 2.2 was launched, that TATA tested the new beast for over 1 lakh kms on every terrain imaginable in the country. I don't know if it is true but initial signs are good for the beast ;-)

[kingshukt]

Originally Posted by dadu

As many ppl are still confused on the type of fuel to use in 2.2, I switched to Normal diesel from my last fill of Xtramile (with additive) with some 10ltrs of Xtramile left in the tank . This is my opinion after about 200km run.

- The engine noise has definitely gone down.
I agree. I have now put in Reliance diesel though Rs. 4/L costlier - and the exprience is same as that of other (i.e HP / BP / IOCL) normal Diesel.

- The 'Krrrr' noise while pickup is there but to a lesser extent and for a very brief period as compared to Xtramile diesel.
I get the Krrr noise though much lesser mainly @ 1500 / 2000 RPM. Can the others also confirm.

- The turbokick has got affected by the normal diesel and the sudden torque which the engine got is slightly lesser now.
Can we say that the Tubo-lag is now reduced and the Turbo-lag is practically not noticable.

- Although I havent been able to calculate the mileage on this, but the way the fuel needle refuses to move over the runs, I might set a mileage record.
Same experience here. The needle starts a must faster descent after 250 / 300 Kms

Overall I feel that normal Diesel (after 2 fills) is better. I will try the next fill with Normal Diesel + system D

[dadu]

I try to add my relevant day-to-day experiences into this thread so that others can benefit from it. Good to know that its informative.

Originally Posted by reachmash

Hey Dadu,

I don't know how I missed this thread of yours, its really informative and gives quite a lot of information.

The turbo lag is less noticable because the turbo is also giving out slightly lesser power with the normal diesel. So the kick is also lesser.

Do post your experiences with system D, although I feel its another kind of an external additive but a subtle one than Xtramile/turbojet.

Originally Posted by kingshukt

Overall I feel that normal Diesel (after 2 fills) is better. I will try the next fill with Normal Diesel + system D

[kingshukt]

Originally Posted by dadu

The turbo lag is less noticable because the turbo is also giving out slightly lesser power with the normal diesel. So the kick is also lesser..

I am not sure on this. I am not able to understand how the Turbo will reduce power to such an extent.

The Turbo-kick with the Premium fuels was awesome. But till the turbo kicked in I used to feel a lack of power.

I am still able to (I think!) get the same power ( eg: to overtake those pesky rickshawallas ) as earlier.

I think we would take the experiences of more 2.2 owners on this.

Originally Posted by dadu

Do post your experiences with system D, although I feel its another kind of an external additive but a subtle one than Xtramile/turbojet.

That I will do. But as mentioned by you, the needle refuses to move and I will not fill up untill I reach the "E" mark.. LOL

[reachmash]

Originally Posted by dadu

I try to add my relevant day-to-day experiences into this thread so that others can benefit from it. Good to know that its informative.

Dadu,

can you PM me the details where you give the truck for service and who was the service adivison / supervisor?

I am planning to take my truck and fixed the appointment tomorrow, I am facing some issue as you could read in my thread and given some inputs.

Best Regards
reachmash

[dadu]

On my drive on Hosur road yesterday, I noticed that warm air from the engine bay was coming from the front center air vents(A/c was off) although the Air circulation control button was also switched to cabin circulation.

Although I had started noticing the engine smell in the cabin since my air freshner finished few days back but wasnt able to trace the source, till yesterday.

You can feel the air with the hand if driving in speed, not otherwise, the circulation control is working though but not able to block the outside air completely.

I had read about similar issue in another safari thread, but cant find it now. I want to know about the time it will take to correct for the service ppl, if there is a DIY, let me now.

So can the gentleman be kind enough to PM/post back here.

I hope you got my PM in time reachmash.

[simply_sunny001]

Originally Posted by dadu

You can feel the air with the hand if driving in speed, not otherwise, the circulation control is working though but not able to block the outside air completely.

Dadu,this problem is there in lot of other safaris as well,at least its there in mine.

and TASS guys once tried fixing it but they cudnt do it properly.

but fixing it shouldn't take more than 15 mins at TASS.

[rajismine]

I don't see this as a major issue. It does happen in all cars to an extent irrespective of Safari or others. I see two things here:

1.) Could be an issue with the firewall ( There might be some gaps. However its tough to convince TASS guys to open the dash and chk for this. Its a very time consuming and laborious job)
2.) An issue with Exhaust in A/C

I mean switch off the Exhaust on A/C and then the warm air should not come in.
If it still comes, get the exhaust checked as that is the only source, air can come inside the cabin and this will happen only at high speeds of 60-70 plus.

Also do one more thing.

1.) Open the Vent or ask the TASS guy to open the vent
2.) Behind this, you will see a metal plate in the inside end
3.) If it is partially open, then close it, i mean it should stand straight. This regulated the circulation inside the car.

All in All, this is not a major issue...

hope this helps

regards

Rajeev

[dadu]

Very true, it is coming in all the time but noticable by feeling the air through your hand at high speeds only, exhaust is totally switched off.

Originally Posted by rajismine

I mean switch off the Exhaust on A/C and then the warm air should not come in.

If it still comes, get the exhaust checked as that is the only source, air can come inside the cabin and this will happen only at high speeds of 60-70 plus.

Are you taking about these vents to open up and check ??

Originally Posted by rajismine

Also do one more thing.

1.) Open the Vent or ask the TASS guy to open the vent
2.) Behind this, you will see a metal plate in the inside end
3.) If it is partially open, then close it, i mean it should stand straight. This regulated the circulation inside the car.

All in All, this is not a major issue...

hope this helps

regards

Rajeev

Thanks for your help and prompt response, rajeev.

[rajismine]

Yes Dadu. I am talking about this vent only. Do one thing. U have already tried with Exhaust Off. Now try with Exhaust ON. It has to do with Exhaust only and may be the functions got reversed. U can also see it when u open the grill. Here are the four places you have to put force with a screwdriver:

[dadu]

No its not reversed, if I try the other way around the flow of air increases.

Originally Posted by rajismine

Yes Dadu. I am talking about this vent only. Do one thing. U have already tried with Exhaust Off. Now try with Exhaust ON. It has to do with Exhaust only and may be the functions got reversed. U can also see it when u open the grill. Here are the four places you have to put force with a screwdriver:

[rajismine]

so this does give us an idea that exhaust is not working properly.

If opening it increases the flow that means that when you switch it off, there remains a leakage and thus you see the airflow,

TASS guys say that they will have to see and then comment. They agree that it has to do with exhaust. As i said, open the vents and see if the metal plate behind that is completely closed.

Or take to TASS guy and they will fix it in no time...

[dadu]

It seems that the problem is resloved for now.

I went and switched on the ignition but didnt fire it up. Released the button to fresh air mode and kept my ear very near to the console, I could hear the humm of the motor working (since its not mechanical), pressed it again and released twice to finally internal circulation mode.

Didnt open the vents but used a torchlight to look inside, found the metal plate on the back fully closed.

Drove upto 60km/h but dont find even slightest of air coming inside now.

Thanks for the tip rajeev.

Originally Posted by rajismine

so this does give us an idea that exhaust is not working properly.

If opening it increases the flow that means that when you switch it off, there remains a leakage and thus you see the airflow,

TASS guys say that they will have to see and then comment. They agree that it has to do with exhaust. As i said, open the vents and see if the metal plate behind that is completely closed.

Or take to TASS guy and they will fix it in no time...