[Yakuza]

Originally Posted by Maverick5490

This information should not be posted online as deleting this option is illegal and the dealers will end up in trouble.

Why not? If it's illegal and if it will get them in trouble, they shouldn't be doing it then right? How does it matter if it's online or offline, it will come out either ways.

[Sivacar]

Originally Posted by Turbanator

Some CBU imports imported under new 2500 car rule no longer have this feature

On others, like BMW/ VW, it's fairly easy. Most guys will do for 5-10 K. Take about 15 minutes, a laptop with internet and an OBD cable.

I doubt that, any car sold in India weather CBU/CKD/SKD/Made in India should have that mandatory beep warnings.

[Sivacar]

Originally Posted by GTO

Almost all tuners in India - at least the ones with a laptop - now offer this service. However, some of the big guys don't entertain unless you know them (as it's too small a job for them + no trouble with cops). Look for any remap specialist and they'll do this for you.

Additionally, authorised workshops are also entertaining requests. A friend got it removed on his brand-new Mercedes from the dealer itself.

Mercedes dealers were doing till 2019, but from 2020 Mercedes has disabled that option for dealers. Dealers will not be able to do it from now on

[itwasntme]

Originally Posted by Sivacar

I doubt that, any car sold in India weather CBU/CKD/SKD/Made in India should have that mandatory beep warnings.

That is what I used to think till I read somewhere on the Karoq / T-Roc thread that the beeps were missing.

[Maverick5490]

Originally Posted by Yakuza

Why not? If it's illegal and if it will get them in trouble, they shouldn't be doing it then right? How does it matter if it's online or offline, it will come out either ways.

The dealer might not have done it officially. No authorised dealer will mention it on record that they have deleted this option.

[Sivacar]

Originally Posted by itwasntme

That is what I used to think till I read somewhere on the Karoq / T-Roc thread that the beeps were missing.

Check with a VW dealer in Chennai, the T-Roc has it.

[pedrolourenco]

Originally Posted by Maverick5490

This information should not be posted online as deleting this option is illegal and the dealers will end up in trouble.

True. But then upgrading tyres is also illegal. So are remaps. It's understood that if you do these mods, you still have to drive safely.

[Maverick5490]

Originally Posted by pedrolourenco

True. But then upgrading tyres is also illegal. So are remaps. It's understood that if you do these mods, you still have to drive safely.

Upgrading tyres and Remaps are not illegal, they are not approved by the manufacturer. The speed warning is mandated by a Goverment authority. Tomorrow if the RTO randomly decides to check these cars to know if the speed warning is present, the owner will point his fingers to the dealer, saying he did it.

Team BHP being a responsible forum, where lot of members/non-member reach out to for information should not get wrong information that it is OK to de-activate these warnings.

[vikram_d]

Originally Posted by pedrolourenco

Remaps were always illegal as it alters the details mentioned in the RC.

The RC card only mentions displacement of the vehicle's engine. By remapping you are not changing the displacement. You are only altering the power and torque figures.

[Hayek]

Originally Posted by vikram_d

The RC card only mentions displacement of the vehicle's engine. By remapping you are not changing the displacement. You are only altering the power and torque figures.

Remaps clearly alter the emission characteristics of the vehicle, especially in the real world. Such an alteration is clearly illegal, except if you get a fresh ARAI certification for the revised tune. Not sure if any of the tuners bother to get such a certification done.

Change in tyres may void your warranty but are not illegal to the best of my knowledge.

Disabling the beep is also illegal - but no worse than some of the other stuff people do and talk about.

[akshay380]

Originally Posted by GTO

Almost all tuners in India - at least the ones with a laptop - now offer this service. However, some of the big guys don't entertain unless you know them (as it's too small a job for them + no trouble with cops). Look for any remap specialist and they'll do this for you.

Additionally, authorised workshops are also entertaining requests. A friend got it removed on his brand-new Mercedes from the dealer itself.

As tbhp, do we support this illegal act? I saw your post and expected some sane advice but unfortunately disappointed. I hate that noise to the core but then I'll challenge it in court if I can and not by circumventing rules.

[Ash_vtec]

Let's not digress from the essence of this thread. This is purely elective. Much like most of the "mods" that this forum encourages.

Maverick does have a point, and maybe we needn't go into details where not needed.

However on that note, lets calmly analyse the response. Does the RTO have the manpower or inclination to randomly check vehicles ? How will they do so ? OBD scanner ? Sit with you and say drive to 80 kph ?

Again, this is information for those who choose to do it. If you find a notebook with incriminating evidence you charge the person who wrote it not the notebook maker. Feel strongly about the law? Don't contribute to the thread.

Are we saying every single vehicle on this forum is 100% compliant with the latest amendment of the Motor Vehicles Act ?

Summarising relevant facts thus far:

- toyota pain in the rear to turn off.
- merc, dealers no longer have the ability to ?
- kia, walk this way for a silent drive.

[VineetG]

Originally Posted by Ash_vtec

Let's not digress from the essence of this thread. This is purely elective. Much like most of the "mods" that this forum encourages.

Maverick does have a point, and maybe we needn't go into details where not needed.

However on that note, lets calmly analyse the response. Does the RTO have the manpower or inclination to randomly check vehicles ? How will they do so ? OBD scanner ? Sit with you and say drive to 80 kph ?

Again, this is information for those who choose to do it. If you find a notebook with incriminating evidence you charge the person who wrote it not the notebook maker. Feel strongly about the law? Don't contribute to the thread.

Are we saying every single vehicle on this forum is 100% compliant with the latest amendment of the Motor Vehicles Act ?

Summarising relevant facts thus far:

- toyota pain in the rear to turn off.
- merc, dealers no longer have the ability to ?
- kia, walk this way for a silent drive.

Thanks for starting this very useful thread. And I support this 100%. There are many who talk of legality issues, but then as mentioned, even upsizing your alloys is illegal. And the HID or LED you just put in your headlights is also illegal. And so are off road lights etc. We can go on.

Only those who can contribute to the issue at hand should comment and not troll the thread with legal/moral issues.

For BMW, I don't know if it can be done with Carly adapter, but can definitely be done with esys software and cable. I saw a fix for it somewhere, trying to find out where. My feeling is it should be pretty easy for BMW for a person with the right software and cable.
Fortunately, I picked up my car before that stupid rule became active, and this was one reason for me to prepone my purchase by a few months.

rgds

[Turbanator]

Originally Posted by Sivacar

I doubt that, any car sold in India weather CBU/CKD/SKD/Made in India should have that mandatory beep warnings.

That was exactly what I also assumed. As per new 2500 car Import norms, Homologation is not required. I have personally experienced some of the new AMG models without this beep imported after 1st April by Mercedes. As an example, G-Wagon. Prior to April, it used to have this beep but not currently. Now whether this happened in few import lots by chance or are these allowed as per the policy, I am not 100% sure.

Originally Posted by Sivacar

Check with a VW dealer in Chennai, the T-Roc has it.

many of the members have posted their own experiences otherwise.

Coming back to the topic and posts by certain people on the legality, this whole thing is highly debatable and let's keep such posts out of this thread. It makes no sense for 80 km beeps when we have highways with speed limits of 100 or 120 Km. And there are older cars in high numbers which are not having these beeps, so it's not as if the old cars are now unfit to drive.

[GTO]

Mod Note: No more off-topic posts please. Only a discussion on the thread title will be allowed - all other posts will be deleted. Thanks for the support & understanding