Front windscreen sunfilm?

Kairalee · 18th January 2010, 15:02

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Originally Posted by vista_qjd

I got a quote for 3M CS for 3400 for my vista, 3M SP for 2100 and Llumar for 1700. CS seems to be the best one in this lot, but i have heard Llumar also performs equally well. Anyone feedback on the Llumar and the pricing?
Also am planning on getting a 50 visibility, would this too transparent?

I've had Llumar (AIR 75) for my front windscreen for a while now and its doing great. I paid Rs.6500 with installation and i have a warranty card.

I noticed substantial cooling, with the A/C seemingly much more effective and good visibility at night- especially the reduced glare from oncoming vehicle headlights. I have never noticed any fogging or misting of the windscreen during monsoons or otherwise. Installation should be done by a specialist to avoid any scratches and bubbles.

I have also upgraded by headlights to 100/130 just to make sure i have enough light ahead of me at all times. And for everyone's safety, I use low beam as much as possible.

You certainly need to take good care of film, like bullboy mentioned, so use very soft cloth and soft water to clean it. Just be very gentle while cleaning the inside of your windscreen.

jaguar.runs · 19th January 2010, 18:43

Guys, put anything... but not V-Kool

I am not happy with it. My first GT had a better film and when I got the second one I put V-kool. I regret my decision now. The old film was non-branded Heat Rejcetion Film(You get a lot of these in Dubai) but was giving me better results. Even the phone reception was good for a metal film. The only problem was that it was not coming in black, but in Greenish Grey. You need to be a good observer to see the difference. Even my wife told me that the earlier film was better. You never feel the heat of the sun even in the peak summer. I am planning to strip the V-kool all around and is planning to go for the old one before the summer comes.

One good suggestion from the guy who installed the V-kool was to get film from India. I may do that, but suggest me something good for the desert climate and yes, I prefer black colour with a 30% darkness (Legal Limit)

mwzd · 29th January 2010, 04:29

I got v70 on the front and back and j50 on the sides - both vkool.

The glare is considerably lower, oncoming vehicles lights don't pinch like they do in my other cars.

A great by-product is that my fuel average is much higher than similar cars, almost by 2Kms/l.

amalji · 31st January 2010, 03:53

I use V-Kool V70 on front &
v-kool elegant goldust on side and rear

V-Kool V70 offers good heat rejection ( 94% IR Rejection ), & Maximum visibility without changing the colour of the windscreen.

The only flaw I found with V70 is the GPS reception. I have to keep the GPS device outside to get connected. Once the connection is established with the satellite, then it works from under the V70 as well.

v-kool elegant goldust as the name suggests, provides an elegant look to your vehicle from outside. Heat rejection is not great, but good. And it's not dark ( From the inside of the car, you wouldn't even think that there is a sun film on your windows )

Digital Vampire · 31st January 2010, 04:44

Well...my question is not about Windscreen films to protect from glare/sunlight but about stickers on windscreens; Parking permit stickers to be specific.

Is sticking parking permits on windscreen legal under Indian Motor Vehicle law? (Some countries don't allow any stickers on Windscreens)
If they are legal, what are the designated areas where a parking permit sticker could be pasted?

Any pointers on laws pertaining to stickers on windshields would be helpful.

My residents association is hell bent on sticking Parking Permits on every vehicle windscreen and that too really g@y looking reflective ones from outside

I cant stand the sight of any stickers on the windscreen and I'm just exploring what are the laws pertaining to stickers on Windscreens.

shajufx · 31st January 2010, 12:38

I use Garware ICECOOL shield on my fiesta windsheild, I find it much better than few other brands seen on my friends' vehicles. It looks light green from outside and light blue effect from inside. My society also has a sticker which every car has as an identity mark, but I havent stuck anything from inside so far. Stickers on the windscreen is something which I also hate, so trying to avoid anything thats not really a necessity. Garware instructs not to stick anything inside for the first 10 days after installation, after that its ok.

adzegeek · 31st January 2010, 16:11

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Originally Posted by Digital Vampire

Any pointers on laws pertaining to stickers on windshields would be helpful.

IMHO there are rules on where adverts can be put on vehicle but none on putting non-advert stickers on windscreen. You may want to google through the central motor vehciles rules/act on Ministry of transport website. Unfortunately the pdf versions on each rule is not searchable.

Kairalee · 4th February 2010, 19:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Vampire

Well...my question is not about Windscreen films to protect from glare/sunlight but about stickers on windscreens; Parking permit stickers to be specific.

Is sticking parking permits on windscreen legal under Indian Motor Vehicle law? (Some countries don't allow any stickers on Windscreens)
If they are legal, what are the designated areas where a parking permit sticker could be pasted?

Any pointers on laws pertaining to stickers on windshields would be helpful.

My residents association is hell bent on sticking Parking Permits on every vehicle windscreen and that too really g@y looking reflective ones from outside

I cant stand the sight of any stickers on the windscreen and I'm just exploring what are the laws pertaining to stickers on Windscreens.

It appears there is no rule that one cannot have stickers on the windscreen.

These documents:
http://india.gov.in/allimpfrms/alldocs/11944.pdf and http://transport.delhigovt.nic.in/pdf/DMVR.pdf mention that it is mandatory to prominently display certain content like permits on the windscreen.

It also says in the second document "The glass of the front windscreen, and side and rear windows of every motor vehicle shall be such and shall be maintained in such a condition as to be clearly transparent and allow the driver a clear vision to the front and to the sides and through the prescribed mirror to the rear of the vehicle."

I guess its just that one needs to maintain adequate visibility all around and there is no specific rule barring anyone from putting up stickers. Even if you have to have stickers, you should have it in the top left corner of the windscreen. Never on the right side or the bottom panel of the windscreen. That will be a dangerous blind spot then.

In fact...no one can force you to put up stickers on or in your car.
You can always ask your residents association to provide you with an ID card instead of the sticker which can be checked by the security as you enter or leave the premises. You can even leave it on the dash board, so they can see it from outside.

jkdas · 13th February 2010, 22:36

Thought of getting Ice Cool @ 3500Rs for my Safari but ended up getting Cool Vision for 2500Rs. Will update the difference in in-cabin temperature in a day or two.

Garware according to me is VFM; use/used Garware sunfilms for all my cars ( front/rear/sides for last 4 years.

Will post pix later today.

ruchirtnt · 14th February 2010, 12:40

I have a ICECOOL WINDSHIELD Mulitlayer Organometallic film which is quite nice, this is useful when the car is kept outside in HOT days and also got ICECOOL GRAND organometallic for my side mirros and back one, i actually felt the difference and benefit, as the car did not hot as a pot which it used to be in my other car,

so, i think it is worth spending some good money here.

ph03n!x · 15th February 2010, 02:29

I can't help but ask - if the legal limit for sun film is 50% visibility (minimum - for the sides), how / why are the powers that be still allow selling lower visibility sun films?

I have RE50 on my drive, and I find it inadequate - it is too transparent and bright, and I feel it is not going to help me much in summer (maybe psychological - more bright = more heat may not be true), and I am planning to go for darker films. That means I will be in violation of the prescribed limits, if I go for , say, RE35 or CS5 (all 3M films).

jkdas · 15th February 2010, 08:52

ph03n!x; Not sure about others, Garware one's come with a sticker that states it's a legal product and the sticker can be stuck to the windscreen.

Edit: couldnt post pix as I couldn't transfer pix to computer.

ruchirtnt · 15th February 2010, 16:43

one thing more, you get a warranty of 5 years with ICECOOL Product

jkdas · 16th February 2010, 21:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkdas

ph03n!x; Not sure about others, Garware one's come with a sticker that states it's a legal product and the sticker can be stuck to the windscreen.

Edit: couldnt post pix as I couldn't transfer pix to computer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruchirtnt

one thing more, you get a warranty of 5 years with ICECOOL Product

That's correct.

Now dont ask me if I had it fitted outside the screen !

mustang89 · 16th February 2010, 21:46

has anyone heard about ecodrive sunfilms?
i went to this shop in karol bagh having ecodrive sunfilms.the setup seemed to be decent enough,they offer 3 years warranty on the films.The owner even showed me the difference using the halogen lamp setup.i was fairly impressed by the film but how come the name is not as famous as garware,3m,v cool or llumar.the pricing is on a higher side compared to garware.
now the question is it worth going for this film?

19th January 2010, 18:43	#1007
jaguar.runs BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Dubai Posts: 277 Thanked: 105 Times View My Garage	No V-Kool! Guys, put anything... but not V-Kool I am not happy with it. My first GT had a better film and when I got the second one I put V-kool. I regret my decision now. The old film was non-branded Heat Rejcetion Film(You get a lot of these in Dubai) but was giving me better results. Even the phone reception was good for a metal film. The only problem was that it was not coming in black, but in Greenish Grey. You need to be a good observer to see the difference. Even my wife told me that the earlier film was better. You never feel the heat of the sun even in the peak summer. I am planning to strip the V-kool all around and is planning to go for the old one before the summer comes. One good suggestion from the guy who installed the V-kool was to get film from India. I may do that, but suggest me something good for the desert climate and yes, I prefer black colour with a 30% darkness (Legal Limit)
	() Thanks

29th January 2010, 04:29	#1008
mwzd BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 70 Thanked: 15 Times View My Garage	I got v70 on the front and back and j50 on the sides - both vkool. The glare is considerably lower, oncoming vehicles lights don't pinch like they do in my other cars. A great by-product is that my fuel average is much higher than similar cars, almost by 2Kms/l.
	() Thanks

31st January 2010, 03:53	#1009
amalji Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 1,644 Thanked: 3,179 Times	I use V-Kool V70 on front & v-kool elegant goldust on side and rear V-Kool V70 offers good heat rejection ( 94% IR Rejection ), & Maximum visibility without changing the colour of the windscreen. The only flaw I found with V70 is the GPS reception. I have to keep the GPS device outside to get connected. Once the connection is established with the satellite, then it works from under the V70 as well. v-kool elegant goldust as the name suggests, provides an elegant look to your vehicle from outside. Heat rejection is not great, but good. And it's not dark ( From the inside of the car, you wouldn't even think that there is a sun film on your windows )
	() Thanks

31st January 2010, 04:44	#1010
Digital Vampire BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Utopia! Posts: 595 Thanked: 105 Times	Parking Permit Sticker on Windscreen menace! Well...my question is not about Windscreen films to protect from glare/sunlight but about stickers on windscreens; Parking permit stickers to be specific. Is sticking parking permits on windscreen legal under Indian Motor Vehicle law? (Some countries don't allow any stickers on Windscreens) If they are legal, what are the designated areas where a parking permit sticker could be pasted? Any pointers on laws pertaining to stickers on windshields would be helpful. My residents association is hell bent on sticking Parking Permits on every vehicle windscreen and that too really g@y looking reflective ones from outside I cant stand the sight of any stickers on the windscreen and I'm just exploring what are the laws pertaining to stickers on Windscreens.
	() Thanks

31st January 2010, 12:38	#1011
shajufx Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: BLR & Singapore Posts: 1,806 Thanked: 831 Times View My Garage	I use Garware ICECOOL shield on my fiesta windsheild, I find it much better than few other brands seen on my friends' vehicles. It looks light green from outside and light blue effect from inside. My society also has a sticker which every car has as an identity mark, but I havent stuck anything from inside so far. Stickers on the windscreen is something which I also hate, so trying to avoid anything thats not really a necessity. Garware instructs not to stick anything inside for the first 10 days after installation, after that its ok.
	() Thanks

13th February 2010, 22:36	#1014
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	Tata Safari Garware Cool Vision 2500Rs Thought of getting Ice Cool @ 3500Rs for my Safari but ended up getting Cool Vision for 2500Rs. Will update the difference in in-cabin temperature in a day or two. Garware according to me is VFM; use/used Garware sunfilms for all my cars ( front/rear/sides for last 4 years. Will post pix later today.
	() Thanks

14th February 2010, 12:40	#1015
ruchirtnt Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 1,065 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	I have a ICECOOL WINDSHIELD Mulitlayer Organometallic film which is quite nice, this is useful when the car is kept outside in HOT days and also got ICECOOL GRAND organometallic for my side mirros and back one, i actually felt the difference and benefit, as the car did not hot as a pot which it used to be in my other car, so, i think it is worth spending some good money here.
	() Thanks

15th February 2010, 02:29	#1016
ph03n!x Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Coimbatore Posts: 2,566 Thanked: 5,969 Times	I can't help but ask - if the legal limit for sun film is 50% visibility (minimum - for the sides), how / why are the powers that be still allow selling lower visibility sun films? I have RE50 on my drive, and I find it inadequate - it is too transparent and bright, and I feel it is not going to help me much in summer (maybe psychological - more bright = more heat may not be true), and I am planning to go for darker films. That means I will be in violation of the prescribed limits, if I go for , say, RE35 or CS5 (all 3M films).
	() Thanks

15th February 2010, 08:52	#1017
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	ph03n!x; Not sure about others, Garware one's come with a sticker that states it's a legal product and the sticker can be stuck to the windscreen. Edit: couldnt post pix as I couldn't transfer pix to computer. Last edited by jkdas : 15th February 2010 at 08:54.
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15th February 2010, 16:43	#1018
ruchirtnt Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 1,065 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	one thing more, you get a warranty of 5 years with ICECOOL Product
	() Thanks

16th February 2010, 21:46	#1020
mustang89 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: new delhi Posts: 348 Thanked: 0 Times	has anyone heard about ecodrive sunfilms? i went to this shop in karol bagh having ecodrive sunfilms.the setup seemed to be decent enough,they offer 3 years warranty on the films.The owner even showed me the difference using the halogen lamp setup.i was fairly impressed by the film but how come the name is not as famous as garware,3m,v cool or llumar.the pricing is on a higher side compared to garware. now the question is it worth going for this film?
	() Thanks