Excellent response. I am glad to see the varied answers and opinions.
Well my few points looking at the responses:
1. Going to a dealer and going to a tuner is different agrred but, When we go to a tuner he does;
- Charge a premium on labour
- has a profit margin on the "imported" performance parts used
- most cases no warranty
Similarities with a dealer:
- No proof parts are changed
- No proof if work is done as requested
- buck is passed onto the car's condition or owner
Now the above points are in most cases not ALL.
Tadu, yes as requested you wanted my story to make this thread more "serious" for your perception. Here goes;
I bought my car back and sourced a new engine for it, the G15. for various reasons. This was my decision.When I recieved it we noticed that the pistons were below deck height, the engine had beeen in a turbo car. Given to SAG racing (Vasu & Psycho) to do a complete rebuild of the car, included everything from suspension,gear box, other key parts as lower arm, ball joint etc.etc.
I queried Keshav about the engine compression as I had my doubts he assured me that no, it would be perfect. I did not question him as most know once he has his mind set on it he wont accept any other ideas suggestions.The engine was sent for work to the lathe, and all necessary parts replaced. I bought as many SGP as I could and MGP for the rest. no spurious parts(siddhartha listening ?
). This was verified by me and I have all the bills.NO doubt here. The engine was installed and Dissapointment started, it was low on compression, the car on test drive was as slow as a stock zen. I parked the car and called Keshav, no answer. I was upset and vented my feelings to him and others. He had nothing to say and just said that yes it is not fast. No apologies no explanations none of it. Then they started work on the engine which was in my car and said that they would completely rebuild that for me to its old glory a 1.75 litre FAAAAST baleno which I previously owned. yes time delay again. No car for pondicherry meet. Did not go.
A week later this is done and installed, hence the write up then and pics of the engine. drove the car engine is tight, very very tight. Then they notice oil leak in the head I ask why has it not been opened nad checked, the reply last time we built it it was fine. I am like you guys built it 3 years ago then the car was running on god knows what by the new owner kerosene,gas,diesel who knows??? why did I ask you to completey rebuild the damn car, no answer for it. redo the entire head now send to lathe etc.etc. car comes out. Still tight.They said drive for 3000km and it would be ok. I did not want to risk it hence no for Goa too. Drove it for 2000km and had lots of issues with it. Car kept going off and would need to be cranked a few times, also it would back fire at times. Was told because engine is tight (yeah right) to add to this everytime car switched off water would spew out from overflow tank of the radiator. They had doubts on head gasket, I said change it what else 2000rs for an SGP one. Problem still exists then they doubt the radiator itself get it cleaned etc.etc. still same problem. Asked me to replace it cost 5000rs. This is when I stepped in changed the radiator cap and guess what Problem solved!!!!!! then the startiing issue and Backfire problem took car to Solar, fixed it in few hours. Wires in some sensors were wrongly connected. SAG insists they did not do it. I dint pursue it as problem was solved. Next suspension not right makes all noises and is not balanced.Went to another garage the guy looks at the install and laughs his head off. Installed ncorrectly. Got it fixed, still not happy and could not redo it so replaced it.
Finally car was ok, not great not fast as it used to be but faster than a stock baleno. Was upset had had enough so exchanged it with a friend for his stock engine. I basically gave the engine and gearbox away. Only the clutch was paid for by him. BAck to stock engine VERY VERY VERY VERY happy.
Recently had issues with starting for which they got an electrician from a MASS and found the ECM wires all out of place he spent 6 hours redid the entire ECM wiring and NO issues so far.
The main reason to go to SAG and get the work done as I was told by Keshav that I would not be charged above x amount as I was broke to begin with and also I would not be asked for money. Yes the cost went throught the roof about 6-7 times the quote. some of it I understand as SGP parts were used and they are expensive. Again assured payment is not an issue can be done at my convenience. Day after car back to stock form was called every hour to go and make payment. went there cleared the entire bill in one shot no checks, but cash. Keshav no where in the picture has dissapeared. Till date I have not gotten an explanation of charges which were questioned by me. Still was avoided by Keshav. Then was explained that he was floored with office and family and health issues. I am not to going to divulge more into that as I think that is personal.
This has happened in june-october 2008. 5 months. Keshav is also a goood friend of mine and this was also affected, finally we came to a solution/compromise and a compensation was arrived at to my satisfaction. As of today I drive my car stock except for suspension, brakes and an air filter. I do have headers installed a few days ago but not happy so will be removed shortly.
I am in good terms with Vasu and Keshav today. Go to he garage regularly to meet them or get minor work done like oil change,plugs etc.etc. But Will I modify my car at the garage again or no is something I have to think about,till date I have refrained from doing so.
Disclaimer:
I have spoken to Keshav and he is aware of me posting this. he knows his status on tbhp might be affected but he has stood up and accepted the facts. Respect him for that. (Arush too for that matter)
Keshav if you feel anything I have said is wrong please feeel free to correct me.
P.s. Siddhartha I dont own Jigani Industrial estate so I have to work like normal people plus typing this long one is pretty time consuming LOL