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desigNation · 12th January 2007, 11:34

hi there,i would suggest,100/90 philips, 130/100 would be a wrong choice,chances of headlight reflector gettin faded , because of too much of heat are higher.

tsk1979 · 12th January 2007, 11:43

The problem of being blinded has more to do with headlight alignment and beam and little to do with power.
A 60/55W headlamp can blind others if you are on high beam and your headlight positioning is set to high.
Most HID cars have HIDs for low beam and provide light more towards the ground.

HAFI · 12th January 2007, 12:36

yeah 100 watts philips vison will do good..it looks realy bright and u get it for both white and blue colour....

a4_attitude · 12th January 2007, 13:19

spend some mullah and get uself HID bllast....

jkdas · 12th January 2007, 13:26

go for vision plus or rally as they would serve better during foggy climate.

get 100/90W with new relays to cope with the additional current they will need.

@ a4; and HID will cost? 10 k up right?

willy · 12th January 2007, 14:24

I see no problem like the headlight reflector getting faded with 130/100. Guys, can you please let me know if any one has faced the problem.

speedzak · 12th January 2007, 14:28

It's evident from many posts made in the Auto Lighting thread that 100/90 bulbs are a best buy and suits our driving conditions here.

Unless you want to go for more expensive options like HID, Projectors etc.. the info you required is pretty much available in the above mentioned thread. Use the search function. It works wonders.

condor · 16th January 2007, 22:09

Has anyone tried the 75/70 H4's that Bosch has?
Bosch - Lighting

I want to upgrade my lights, but dont yet feel like going for the 100/90's. Hence exploring the 75/70's. My stock lights are the 60/55. Will I need fresh relays even for 75/70?

Mugen_Power · 16th January 2007, 22:46

condor,

Why dont you get Philips 90/100 ?

rahul_intlad · 16th January 2007, 23:49

@Condor, me too have the same question as mugen.Also have you considered the philips clearvision bulbs if you do not want high wattage.

Ps: Heard Osram are good if not better than philips[could somebody add to this please..],maybe you could have a look at that too.

iraghava · 17th January 2007, 00:09

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Originally Posted by rahul_intlad

Ps: Heard Osram are good if not better than philips[could somebody add to this please..],maybe you could have a look at that too.

Ran 2 sets of Osram's & they were great but are very hard to find. Philips is not as good IMHO since I'm currently using a set of Crystalvision's.

condor · 17th January 2007, 09:03

I have used Philips crystal-visions, and they are a better option than the stock bulbs, when one wants to stick to the regular 60/55W [without an upgrade]. Also, my stock bulbs have lasted much longer than the higher priced Crystal-visions.

I have no doubts about the 100/90 setup. I am trying to see if I can manage without going upto 100/90. I think warranty gets void with 100/90's, when the stock is 60/55W. A couple of other reasons:
1. Cops: they suddenly get into a high-beam check mode, and at that time, they dont listen, forget understanding any explainations.

2. There have been instances when the on-coming guy has his high-beams on, and is blinding me. I have switched to high-beam, and the guy goes crazy. I would like not to get into an avoidable situation if I can. Considering today's driving environment, it does help to be a bit cautious too. People wont be able to make out if I have better lights or if I am using my high-beams.

tsk1979 · 17th January 2007, 10:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by condor

Has anyone tried the 75/70 H4's that Bosch has?
Bosch - Lighting

I want to upgrade my lights, but dont yet feel like going for the 100/90's. Hence exploring the 75/70's. My stock lights are the 60/55. Will I need fresh relays even for 75/70?

No need of relay's for these. Don't know about beam intensity though.

condor · 18th January 2007, 07:25

Any brand of relay /cut-out that I need to avoid?

the 75/70's are rated about 25% higher than the 60/55's. Would the stock relays be able to handle the 75/70's without any thing getting damaged?

tsk, what's rating on the Indica ? Will look for the Narva's, else will take the Bosch. I want to get better lights on the Marina and the Sumo, and it would be really good if I can just put the 75/70's without any addnl changes.

tsk1979 · 18th January 2007, 10:17

If you really want a relay get a roots one. But for 75/70W you don't need one as this much tolerance is already built into the system.
But with the relay you can upgrade to 100/90W later if required.

12th January 2007, 11:34	#121
desigNation BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: calicut Posts: 661 Thanked: 52 Times View My Garage	hi there,i would suggest,100/90 philips, 130/100 would be a wrong choice,chances of headlight reflector gettin faded , because of too much of heat are higher.
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12th January 2007, 11:43	#122
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,695 Thanked: 23,484 Times View My Garage	The problem of being blinded has more to do with headlight alignment and beam and little to do with power. A 60/55W headlamp can blind others if you are on high beam and your headlight positioning is set to high. Most HID cars have HIDs for low beam and provide light more towards the ground.
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12th January 2007, 12:36	#123
HAFI BANNED Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: cochin Posts: 296 Thanked: 0 Times	yeah 100 watts philips vison will do good..it looks realy bright and u get it for both white and blue colour....
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12th January 2007, 13:19	#124
a4_attitude BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 508 Thanked: 101 Times View My Garage	spend some mullah and get uself HID bllast....
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12th January 2007, 13:26	#125
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,496 Times View My Garage	go for vision plus or rally as they would serve better during foggy climate. get 100/90W with new relays to cope with the additional current they will need. @ a4; and HID will cost? 10 k up right?
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12th January 2007, 14:24	#126
willy BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 146 Thanked: 0 Times	I see no problem like the headlight reflector getting faded with 130/100. Guys, can you please let me know if any one has faced the problem. Last edited by willy : 12th January 2007 at 14:34.
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12th January 2007, 14:28	#127
speedzak BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,346 Thanked: 28 Times	It's evident from many posts made in the Auto Lighting thread that 100/90 bulbs are a best buy and suits our driving conditions here. Unless you want to go for more expensive options like HID, Projectors etc.. the info you required is pretty much available in the above mentioned thread. Use the search function. It works wonders.
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16th January 2007, 22:09	#128
condor Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Speed-brkr City Posts: 16,238 Thanked: 16,880 Times View My Garage	Has anyone tried the 75/70 H4's that Bosch has? Bosch - Lighting I want to upgrade my lights, but dont yet feel like going for the 100/90's. Hence exploring the 75/70's. My stock lights are the 60/55. Will I need fresh relays even for 75/70?
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16th January 2007, 22:46	#129
Mugen_Power Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gujarat 03 Posts: 1,302 Thanked: 19 Times	condor, Why dont you get Philips 90/100 ?
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16th January 2007, 23:49	#130
rahul_intlad Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 1,577 Thanked: 5 Times	@Condor, me too have the same question as mugen.Also have you considered the philips clearvision bulbs if you do not want high wattage. Ps: Heard Osram are good if not better than philips[could somebody add to this please..],maybe you could have a look at that too.
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17th January 2007, 09:03	#132
condor Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Speed-brkr City Posts: 16,238 Thanked: 16,880 Times View My Garage	I have used Philips crystal-visions, and they are a better option than the stock bulbs, when one wants to stick to the regular 60/55W [without an upgrade]. Also, my stock bulbs have lasted much longer than the higher priced Crystal-visions. I have no doubts about the 100/90 setup. I am trying to see if I can manage without going upto 100/90. I think warranty gets void with 100/90's, when the stock is 60/55W. A couple of other reasons: 1. Cops: they suddenly get into a high-beam check mode, and at that time, they dont listen, forget understanding any explainations. 2. There have been instances when the on-coming guy has his high-beams on, and is blinding me. I have switched to high-beam, and the guy goes crazy. I would like not to get into an avoidable situation if I can. Considering today's driving environment, it does help to be a bit cautious too. People wont be able to make out if I have better lights or if I am using my high-beams.
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18th January 2007, 07:25	#134
condor Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Speed-brkr City Posts: 16,238 Thanked: 16,880 Times View My Garage	Any brand of relay /cut-out that I need to avoid? the 75/70's are rated about 25% higher than the 60/55's. Would the stock relays be able to handle the 75/70's without any thing getting damaged? tsk, what's rating on the Indica ? Will look for the Narva's, else will take the Bosch. I want to get better lights on the Marina and the Sumo, and it would be really good if I can just put the 75/70's without any addnl changes.
	() Thanks

18th January 2007, 10:17	#135
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,695 Thanked: 23,484 Times View My Garage	If you really want a relay get a roots one. But for 75/70W you don't need one as this much tolerance is already built into the system. But with the relay you can upgrade to 100/90W later if required.
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