Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here

Akshay1234 · 30th January 2008, 18:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by nishantgandhi

I have a Getz GL Nov 2004 model (without crystal clear headlamp). The lights are too dull and I find them unsafe during night and highway driving.

Is it advisable to retain 60/55W power and go for Philips H4 white light bulbs? Would I need any other structural changes to be done?

Or should I go for 100/90W power and get Narva/Philps with additional relay?

Please suggest trust worthy places in Mumbai to go to (i.e. the electrician should be good!). Also, please mention costs associated.

nishant im using narva 100/90w white bulbs on my 05 getz. its very good.

nishantgandhi · 30th January 2008, 18:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by akshay1234

nishant im using narva 100/90w white bulbs on my 05 getz. its very good.

Thanks for the reply Akshay. Does your Getz have clear lens reflectors?

Also, I am contemplating between the following choices, moreover Narva is not available with most dealers here. Any suggestions?
- Philips VisionPlus: +50% more light
- Philips LongerLife: 3x life time
- Philips Premium: 30% extra light
- Philips NightGuide: 3-color safety technology with double lifetime

Akshay1234 · 30th January 2008, 19:05

mine is the clear lens. i thought all getzs had clear lens headlamps. can you post a pic so i can see how yours looks?

id take the vision+ over the others since you want the most light available. but i dont think vision+ is available in 100/90w.

nishantgandhi · 30th January 2008, 19:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by akshay1234

mine is the clear lens. i thought all getzs had clear lens headlamps. can you post a pic so i can see how yours looks?

id take the vision+ over the others since you want the most light available. but i dont think vision+ is available in 100/90w.

Will post a pic tomorrow.
Im anyways not too keen on 100/90W lamps. I guess if 60/55W serves the purpose, I am happy with that.Why blind other drivers with something that irritates me equally?

Where in Mumbai did you get Narva from? And where did you get the installation done? I am having a hard time sourcing Bosch relays.

Akshay1234 · 30th January 2008, 19:38

you can get the installation done at car touch at shivaji park. they are really good.

redfire · 31st January 2008, 02:41

Hi All,

A good thread and have covered a major part if it containing good suggestions, comments, experiences and some good technical write-ups.

Following is my conclusion:

I drive a Swift VXi. Planning to go for Philips Rally 90/100 with ceramic holders and Bosch relay.

Need some help:
I am from Trivandrum and planning to drive up to Bangalore this weekend along with my friends (some other business). Thinking to make this an opportunity to grab the lighting components too. I am not familiar to Bangalore city, but have friends who can direct me to places.

Where can I get Philips Rally 90/100 H4s with Bosh relay, ceramic holders and wiring kit? Heard of JC road. Any shop names? Any other place than JC road? Directions please...

Will be reaching there on Sat eve and going straight to shop. Planning to install it on Sunday. Will sure post my feedback.

Any immediate help apreciated as I am traveling within 2 days

manipal · 2nd February 2008, 23:50

I own A tata indica turbo, the headlamps provided are useless(55/60), recenlty i have replaced the bulb to 90/100, there is no difference, I would like to known which manufacturer provides relays, wiring harness and ceramic holders? what would be the price

drchernish · 3rd February 2008, 13:05

hi,i have a verna crdi n i am not satisfied with the main lights.my dealer sugested n quoted 24000 for xenons philips brand.is that right price n the only good solution.

ramkris · 4th February 2008, 12:13

Thanks for your thoughts,
I will check out both this weekend.

convivial · 4th February 2008, 15:23

Hi - I recently wanted to upgrade the headlights for my Elantra (CRDi - done 40K and still strong except for the headlights) and even bought H1 and H7 and a relay kit for the same. The dealer however remarked that they would need to tamper the original wiring (or something. I am not quite sure of what he said) since they couldnt get the coupler which could be the best fit and in the process could make the warranty void (I havent got the extended warranty option and my car is 1.5 yrs old). I am not sure of the authenticity of this reply. I would appreciate replies from gurus out here.

motomaverick · 4th February 2008, 16:29

Hi guys does any1 has any idea if we get Projector lens as a product to retro fix on a reflector headlight assy in Bangalore or probably in India? Its for a motorcycle.

ashthedivx · 4th February 2008, 21:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by convivial

Hi - I recently wanted to upgrade the headlights for my Elantra (CRDi - done 40K and still strong except for the headlights) and even bought H1 and H7 and a relay kit for the same. The dealer however remarked that they would need to tamper the original wiring (or something. I am not quite sure of what he said) since they couldnt get the coupler which could be the best fit and in the process could make the warranty void (I havent got the extended warranty option and my car is 1.5 yrs old). I am not sure of the authenticity of this reply. I would appreciate replies from gurus out here.

Definitely your warranty will void if wiring gets tampered, you must use the couplers only if you want any type alteration or modifications in the existing setup.

Su-47 · 5th February 2008, 15:54

After having read many posts from this thread, I've a couple of questions.

1. If I want to get better light without increasing the wattage, Philips Extreme+80, Philips Vision-plus and Osram Silverstar are good options. Are there any more options?

2. Philips Extreme outputs the most lumens. The other two are close competitors. Am I Right?

3. Do all these bulbs output same color light as OEM ones? I do NOT like white light, and hate additional attention from the cops.

4. This is more of an academic question, as I dont want white light: Is there a legal limit on the maximum color temperature for headlights in our country?

Thanks,
Su-47

tsk1979 · 5th February 2008, 15:58

There is limit on wattage in our country, thats why vision+ diamond vision etc., are street legal(they are 60/55W)
you can go for silverstar. They output more light, but color is normal.
They also don't suffer from low life syndrome as the Extreme bulbs(+80/+90 etc.,) are prone to.

abhibh · 5th February 2008, 16:16

I recently changed my Alto Headlights from OEM Halonix to DELA from Osram. The visibility has increased a lot but still not adequate on highways.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsk1979

you can go for silverstar. They output more light, but color is normal.

So Osram Silverstar+50 is yellow light and not white i was thinking of getting them as i dont wanna add relay etc.

30th January 2008, 19:05	#1338
Akshay1234 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 10,327 Thanked: 12,920 Times	mine is the clear lens. i thought all getzs had clear lens headlamps. can you post a pic so i can see how yours looks? id take the vision+ over the others since you want the most light available. but i dont think vision+ is available in 100/90w.
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30th January 2008, 19:38	#1340
Akshay1234 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 10,327 Thanked: 12,920 Times	you can get the installation done at car touch at shivaji park. they are really good.
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31st January 2008, 02:41	#1341
redfire BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chicago, USA Posts: 448 Thanked: 27 Times View My Garage	Swift Lights Hi All, A good thread and have covered a major part if it containing good suggestions, comments, experiences and some good technical write-ups. Following is my conclusion: I drive a Swift VXi. Planning to go for Philips Rally 90/100 with ceramic holders and Bosch relay. Need some help: I am from Trivandrum and planning to drive up to Bangalore this weekend along with my friends (some other business). Thinking to make this an opportunity to grab the lighting components too. I am not familiar to Bangalore city, but have friends who can direct me to places. Where can I get Philips Rally 90/100 H4s with Bosh relay, ceramic holders and wiring kit? Heard of JC road. Any shop names? Any other place than JC road? Directions please... Will be reaching there on Sat eve and going straight to shop. Planning to install it on Sunday. Will sure post my feedback. Any immediate help apreciated as I am traveling within 2 days
	() Thanks

2nd February 2008, 23:50	#1342
manipal BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: manipal Posts: 82 Thanked: 470 Times	I own A tata indica turbo, the headlamps provided are useless(55/60), recenlty i have replaced the bulb to 90/100, there is no difference, I would like to known which manufacturer provides relays, wiring harness and ceramic holders? what would be the price
	() Thanks

3rd February 2008, 13:05	#1343
drchernish BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: kanpur Posts: 426 Thanked: 70 Times	hi,i have a verna crdi n i am not satisfied with the main lights.my dealer sugested n quoted 24000 for xenons philips brand.is that right price n the only good solution.
	() Thanks

4th February 2008, 12:13	#1344
ramkris BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 122 Thanked: 20 Times	Thanks for your thoughts, I will check out both this weekend.
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4th February 2008, 15:23	#1345
convivial BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 81 Thanked: 50 Times	Headlights for Elantra Hi - I recently wanted to upgrade the headlights for my Elantra (CRDi - done 40K and still strong except for the headlights) and even bought H1 and H7 and a relay kit for the same. The dealer however remarked that they would need to tamper the original wiring (or something. I am not quite sure of what he said) since they couldnt get the coupler which could be the best fit and in the process could make the warranty void (I havent got the extended warranty option and my car is 1.5 yrs old). I am not sure of the authenticity of this reply. I would appreciate replies from gurus out here.
	() Thanks

4th February 2008, 16:29	#1346
motomaverick Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,898 Thanked: 989 Times View My Garage	Hi guys does any1 has any idea if we get Projector lens as a product to retro fix on a reflector headlight assy in Bangalore or probably in India? Its for a motorcycle.
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5th February 2008, 15:54	#1348
Su-47 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 693 Thanked: 364 Times	After having read many posts from this thread, I've a couple of questions. 1. If I want to get better light without increasing the wattage, Philips Extreme+80, Philips Vision-plus and Osram Silverstar are good options. Are there any more options? 2. Philips Extreme outputs the most lumens. The other two are close competitors. Am I Right? 3. Do all these bulbs output same color light as OEM ones? I do NOT like white light, and hate additional attention from the cops. 4. This is more of an academic question, as I dont want white light: Is there a legal limit on the maximum color temperature for headlights in our country? Thanks, Su-47
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5th February 2008, 15:58	#1349
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,688 Thanked: 23,494 Times View My Garage	There is limit on wattage in our country, thats why vision+ diamond vision etc., are street legal(they are 60/55W) you can go for silverstar. They output more light, but color is normal. They also don't suffer from low life syndrome as the Extreme bulbs(+80/+90 etc.,) are prone to.
	() Thanks