ARTICLE: Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil

Born 2 Be Wild · 20th April 2009, 13:32

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Originally Posted by CrackedHead

The only 10w30 oil that I've come across is Servo (Indian Oil). By magnatec 10w40 - do you mean Magnatec GTD ?

GTD is different from magnatec. I also confirmed with him he said use magnatec 10w40, there isnt any oil by the name of magnatec GTD its either Magnatec Or GTD And The latter is 15w40.

He also mentioned that its mentioned on the pack that it can be used in diesel cars , am not sure of this thats why wanted to confirm this.

CrackedHead · 20th April 2009, 18:38

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Originally Posted by Born 2 Be Wild

GTD is different from magnatec. I also confirmed with him he said use magnatec 10w40, there isnt any oil by the name of magnatec GTD its either Magnatec Or GTD And The latter is 15w40.

He also mentioned that its mentioned on the pack that it can be used in diesel cars , am not sure of this thats why wanted to confirm this.

The Castrol GTX range is for petrol engines, the GTD is for diesels. Castrol does have a diesel engine oil that's branded as "Magnatec GTD" but I've never seen it in India. So I was wondering if you'd actually found "Magnatec GTD".

Sorry for the confusion.

In theory, multigrade engine oil (like the Magnatec that you mention) can be used in a diesel engine - but its better if you look for an engine oil thats formulated specifically for diesel engines. Please look for other options.

IMO - using castrol GTD would be a better option than paying more for an engine oil that is formulated for petrol engines (the Magnatec that your mechanic is suggesting)

Eddy · 20th April 2009, 18:47

Correction.

Castrol has GTX labelled oils for both petrols and diesel. The GTX diesel engine oil is CH rated and is different from the GTX petrol. GTD is CF and hence inferior.

greenhorn · 20th April 2009, 18:48

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Originally Posted by CrackedHead

The Castrol GTX range is for petrol engines, the GTD is for diesels.

Sorry for the confusion.

um dude , you're just adding to it

Castrol USA - Castrol GTX Diesel

dockap · 20th April 2009, 21:02

found these 2 synthetics in mangalore
shell helix ultra 5w40 1 ltr Rs 1015/- ( 4 ltrs Rs 4060/-)
castrol edge 5w40 4 ltrs Rs 2300/-
elf total quartz 9000 series not available in mangalore

can either of these be used in magnum diesel and whats the difference between the two Rs 4060 vs 2300 ? is the shell helix ultra really worth buying

IronWolf · 21st April 2009, 00:33

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Originally Posted by dockap

found these 2 synthetics in mangalore
shell helix ultra 5w40 1 ltr Rs 1015/- ( 4 ltrs Rs 4060/-)
castrol edge 5w40 4 ltrs Rs 2300/-
elf total quartz 9000 series not available in mangalore

can either of these be used in magnum diesel and whats the difference between the two Rs 4060 vs 2300 ? is the shell helix ultra really worth buying

There are few shops in JC road which even have the HElix Ultra at less than 3k for 4 Ltrs.

I guess its just the old stock with those rates.

Castrol Edge as per my understanding does not lack in any way. Its their top of the line oil and just as good as Helix Ultra.

sandeep108 · 21st April 2009, 10:30

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Originally Posted by dockap

found these 2 synthetics in mangalore
shell helix ultra 5w40 1 ltr Rs 1015/- ( 4 ltrs Rs 4060/-)
castrol edge 5w40 4 ltrs Rs 2300/-
elf total quartz 9000 series not available in mangalore

can either of these be used in magnum diesel and whats the difference between the two Rs 4060 vs 2300 ? is the shell helix ultra really worth buying

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For everyday use, just use normal reasonable quality oil and change every 5-10k as recommended by the mfr.

tsk1979 · 21st April 2009, 10:47

Castrol GTX diesel is one of the best diesel engine oils in the market. Its cheap and confirms to API-CI4, the highest specification available in India

sgiitk · 21st April 2009, 11:50

The major difference between Petrol and Diesel oils is the detergent content. Diesel oils have a higher detergent content. Most oils carry both petrol and diesel ratings. In general Diesel type oils are more highly developed.

dockap · 21st April 2009, 12:09

thanks for the reply guys but still no answer to my question i want to use a synthetic engine oil in my car so can i use shell helix ultra 5w40 or castrol edge 5w40 in my magnum safely or is it going to mess up my engine the oil used by GM is elf mineral oil 15w40
please some expert advice

Eddy · 21st April 2009, 12:22

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Originally Posted by tsk1979

Castrol GTX diesel is one of the best diesel engine oils in the market. Its cheap and confirms to API-CI4, the highest specification available in India

Not anymore. According to the Castrol website, it is now rated CH-4 and is available in 1 & 3 litre can.

When you and me bought it sometime back, it was available in 4 l can and was CI4. Something has changed, not sure what.

Castrol India - GTX DIESEL

teknophobia · 21st April 2009, 12:33

Is Castrol Edge Turbo Diesel 10w 40 available anywhere in India?

Sorry, I found my answer in an earlier post..

vikram_d · 21st April 2009, 14:46

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Originally Posted by dockap

thanks for the reply guys but still no answer to my question i want to use a synthetic engine oil in my car so can i use shell helix ultra 5w40 or castrol edge 5w40 in my magnum safely or is it going to mess up my engine the oil used by GM is elf mineral oil 15w40
please some expert advice

You can switch to either of the two oils that you have mentioned. There will not be any problems.

dockap · 21st April 2009, 16:04

thanks man
also how about castrol magnatec compared to shell helix ultra and castrol edge
castrol site say its a syntetic

Uses Synthetic Technology
Recommended in use for all types of high performance luxury cars (Petrol and Diesel)
Best – in – class API SM Formulation
Viscosity: SAE 10W-40

vikram_d · 21st April 2009, 16:26

I have found Castrol Magnatec to be the most VFM oil in the present market. I have used all kinds of synthetics. But I don't think their cost is justified in the Indian context. Moreover I change the engine oil every 5000 kms, so for me cost is a criteria. I went back to Magnatec after using both Shell Helix Ultra & Mobil 1.

I recently started using Shell Helix (mineral oil) and found that also to be very good. Engine has become extremely smooth with it. The only problem with this oil is that you don't get 15W-40. I had to settle for 20W-50. Next change is going to be Shell Helix Super which is available in 15W-40.

20th April 2009, 18:47	#1533
Eddy Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 9,567 Thanked: 14,538 Times	Correction. Castrol has GTX labelled oils for both petrols and diesel. The GTX diesel engine oil is CH rated and is different from the GTX petrol. GTD is CF and hence inferior.
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20th April 2009, 21:02	#1535
dockap BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mangalore Posts: 873 Thanked: 518 Times View My Garage	found these 2 synthetics in mangalore shell helix ultra 5w40 1 ltr Rs 1015/- ( 4 ltrs Rs 4060/-) castrol edge 5w40 4 ltrs Rs 2300/- elf total quartz 9000 series not available in mangalore can either of these be used in magnum diesel and whats the difference between the two Rs 4060 vs 2300 ? is the shell helix ultra really worth buying
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21st April 2009, 10:47	#1538
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,697 Thanked: 23,487 Times View My Garage	Castrol GTX diesel is one of the best diesel engine oils in the market. Its cheap and confirms to API-CI4, the highest specification available in India
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21st April 2009, 11:50	#1539
sgiitk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,971 Thanked: 4,809 Times	The major difference between Petrol and Diesel oils is the detergent content. Diesel oils have a higher detergent content. Most oils carry both petrol and diesel ratings. In general Diesel type oils are more highly developed.
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21st April 2009, 12:09	#1540
dockap BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mangalore Posts: 873 Thanked: 518 Times View My Garage	thanks for the reply guys but still no answer to my question i want to use a synthetic engine oil in my car so can i use shell helix ultra 5w40 or castrol edge 5w40 in my magnum safely or is it going to mess up my engine the oil used by GM is elf mineral oil 15w40 please some expert advice
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21st April 2009, 12:33	#1542
teknophobia BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: WB/MH Posts: 389 Thanked: 131 Times	Is Castrol Edge Turbo Diesel 10w 40 available anywhere in India? Sorry, I found my answer in an earlier post.. Last edited by teknophobia : 21st April 2009 at 12:35.
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21st April 2009, 16:04	#1544
dockap BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mangalore Posts: 873 Thanked: 518 Times View My Garage	thanks man also how about castrol magnatec compared to shell helix ultra and castrol edge castrol site say its a syntetic Uses Synthetic Technology Recommended in use for all types of high performance luxury cars (Petrol and Diesel) Best – in – class API SM Formulation Viscosity: SAE 10W-40 Attached Thumbnails
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21st April 2009, 16:26	#1545
vikram_d Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,422 Thanked: 1,188 Times	I have found Castrol Magnatec to be the most VFM oil in the present market. I have used all kinds of synthetics. But I don't think their cost is justified in the Indian context. Moreover I change the engine oil every 5000 kms, so for me cost is a criteria. I went back to Magnatec after using both Shell Helix Ultra & Mobil 1. I recently started using Shell Helix (mineral oil) and found that also to be very good. Engine has become extremely smooth with it. The only problem with this oil is that you don't get 15W-40. I had to settle for 20W-50. Next change is going to be Shell Helix Super which is available in 15W-40.
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